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how could i legally give an AR15 to another family member?
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VA, USA
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Posted: 2/22/2007 7:13:15 AM EST
Wrap it in a box with the coolest wrapping paper you can find and hand it to them!
Seriously, I don't know PA law in depth, but what I do know is there are not many restrictions on "assault weapons" in PA. There shouldn't be any problems handing it to the person and telling them to have fun with it. |
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AL, USA
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Posted: 2/22/2007 7:16:10 AM EST
[Last Edit: 2/22/2007 7:21:55 AM EST by RazorHKUSP45]
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Posted: 2/22/2007 7:19:29 AM EST
Does the family member reside in your state?
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Posted: 2/22/2007 7:29:52 AM EST
no. he lives in NJ.
all of the parts i have are NJ compliant (since i was once a prisoner there), the family member in question just got his FID card a month ago (so he is legit), and like me if he were "ineligible" to purchase a firearm, he would be fired from his job. when i lived in NJ i bought almost every one of my long guns in PA. |
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Posted: 2/22/2007 7:30:56 AM EST
Then it will have to go through a FFL. You can give it to him, but a 4473 will need to be filled out as he is a resident of another state. |
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Posted: 2/22/2007 7:36:21 AM EST
giving an AR15 for a gift is akin to giving pets as gifts.
all it's going to do is cost them an assload of money over the course of it's life. from the looks of things on this board, it causes divorces too. and the obligatory: send it to me, I don't mind caring for and feeding it 
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VA, USA
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Posted: 2/22/2007 7:37:33 AM EST
Originally Posted By hellbound:
no. he lives in NJ. quote] That's a different story, and to expand on Forest's comments: You'll have to send it to an FFL dealer in NJ, where the family member will have to fill out the appropriate paperwork before taking possession of the rifle. Depending on NJ law and the dealer, you maybe able to drive the weapon to the dealer, have him take possession and log it in, then he can transfer it to an NJ resident. Or if you ship it, make sure you know that the NJ dealer will accept firearms from an individual and doesn't require it to be sent by another out of State dealer. |
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Posted: 2/22/2007 7:50:25 AM EST
ugh. how annoying. i knew you had to do this crap for handguns. what if i were at a gun show in a different state and bought a rifle from someone (not an FFL), i would have to go through the same hoops? |
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Posted: 2/22/2007 7:57:10 AM EST
You would be in violation of Federal Law unless you went through an FFL
Yes, any interstate transfer of ownership must go through an FFL, no exceptions. |
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Posted: 2/22/2007 8:03:22 AM EST
[Last Edit: 2/22/2007 8:03:42 AM EST by hellbound]
oh ok... so that's why purchasing long guns in PA when i lived in NJ was a-ok since it was an FFL. so if i had him do a transfer of the lower at my FFL over here that would be good to go as well? as long as the transfer goes through an FFL (NICS/4473)? |
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Posted: 2/22/2007 9:28:13 AM EST
Correct
Maybe. It would depend on NJ laws. For example, a lower for a MD resident is a PITA to buy in another state because that FFL has to follow the rules of MD (meaning the 8 day waiting period). Most would rather just ship it to an FFL in the buyers state and let the FFL there deal with the state issues. |
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LA, USA
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Posted: 2/22/2007 10:53:45 AM EST
I gift myself a new rifle every year :-\. I'm hoping to have a H&K 416 , POF or Magpul Masada by my 24th this oct. 11th :)
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Posted: 2/22/2007 11:10:47 AM EST
I recently bought one for my father, not to worried about legality snce we can both legaly own firearms.
Bought him a RRA elite CAR A4  ...  but he doesn't like the 16" barrel or the railed fore end, seems to want a varmint or predator pusuit type upper. Ask them what they want. 
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NC, USA
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Posted: 2/22/2007 11:14:48 AM EST
adopt me?
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LA, USA
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Posted: 2/22/2007 11:15:19 AM EST
Yeah I know how that goes, I had similar problem awhile back with a rifle I gave my dad.. old people, you can't live with them and you... well thats about it
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Posted: 2/28/2007 8:17:54 AM EST
[Last Edit: 2/28/2007 8:18:35 AM EST by hellbound]
I had my family member come over and fill the paperwork out for one of the lowers, i filled out my own 4473 for the rest of them
I just got the post-ban NJ compliant Stag 4H (20" rifle) kit from JKiser yesterday and put it together last night... i can't wait to finish up my own 20" build... here's a picture of it... 
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MO, USA
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Posted: 2/28/2007 8:23:17 AM EST
As nice looking as a ban rifle can get<this is a compliment, darn that flashider and collapsable stock would have just sent you on kill crazy murder rampage good thing you cant own any, i feel sorry for you guys,but would love to get an AR as a gift that is the best thing somebody can probably give somebody else.
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Posted: 2/28/2007 8:29:42 AM EST
Hellbound,
Nice looking rifle, I'm thinking of building a simialr one for my father (who also happens to reside in a ban state). |
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Posted: 2/28/2007 8:48:26 AM EST
that's why i escaped from NJ when i could. this is for my father-in-law and his son. his son is 13 and has been taking part in the youth marksmanship program in their area for the past few years... he is at that age now where things aren't "cool" so i am trying to keep him interested and involved in the shooting sports... i think he is beginning to lose interest in shooting .177 pellets... especially when he comes over to visit and sees our safe... his big sister and i have taken him to a few gun shows and he loves collecting dummy rounds and watching futureweapons... i think if him and his dad have their own AR to go shooting together he will stay interested and keep it up... |
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Posted: 2/28/2007 9:19:39 AM EST
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