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Posted: 12/9/2010 3:50:17 PM EDT
i live in a very green all year round area but have been thinking about a desert tan or fde build
anyone else done this or should i just start looking into od green furniture?
Link Posted: 12/9/2010 4:02:29 PM EDT
[#1]
I live in ohio And i have tan furniture on my gun. i would love to get the receivers painted tan professionally but i dont have the money.
Link Posted: 12/9/2010 4:08:04 PM EDT
[#2]
I live in Ohio as well.. and OD and Foliage is the way to go!


Link Posted: 12/9/2010 4:23:15 PM EDT
[#3]
I have tan kit on my AR, and I live in NY, so no, it doesn't match shit in the environment. But it was the stuff I had on my M4 overseas and I like tan, so it will blend in with my other tan stuff.
Link Posted: 12/9/2010 4:41:38 PM EDT
[#4]
Tan blends fiine for most any environments as a base color. I have an all tan rifle and  have used it hunting in the snow, in the woods, in the sage, and in the desert. Don't expect to stand directly in front of someone and be invisible, but tan works good enough. If you wanna play sniper then you will be doing more to camoflage your weapon no matter what the color. I say all this because it seems every time I say tan is best all around some jackass always has to show a picture of a tan rifle sitting on a green lawn or something similar saying "No it doesnt!" and that is far from the concept of how camoflage is supposed to work in the first place.
Link Posted: 12/9/2010 4:45:02 PM EDT
[#5]
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Tan blends fiine for most any environments as a base color. I have an all tan rifle and  have used it hunting in the snow, in the woods, in the sage, and in the desert. Don't expect to stand directly in front of someone and be invisible, but tan works good enough. If you wanna play sniper then you will be doing more to camoflage your weapon no matter what the color. I say all this because it seems every time I say tan is best all around some jackass always has to show a picture of a tan rifle sitting on a green lawn or something similar saying "No it doesnt!" and that is far from the concept of how camoflage is supposed to work in the first place.




+1


Even in the greenest summer months, there seems to be a fair amount of tan present.

I think people tend to go too dark with their color schemes but that's just me.
Link Posted: 12/9/2010 4:59:41 PM EDT
[#6]
Tan will blend in with nature better than black.  Look outside and you'll see how little black there is in nature.
Link Posted: 12/9/2010 4:59:43 PM EDT
[#7]
I do.
I'm a huge proponent of brown/tan based camo for use in a woodland environment.

Most large animals are some shade of brown, and it seems to work for them.
Link Posted: 12/9/2010 5:05:29 PM EDT
[#8]
I live in south east missouri and this is my deer/ hog hunting rig


Link Posted: 12/9/2010 5:07:24 PM EDT
[#9]
I have AR's in tan and foliage green (all are set up in similar configs).  Foliage green for spring and summer and tan for the fall as it matches perfectly with the environment.  Winter?  Screw that, it's cold outside.  
Link Posted: 12/9/2010 5:08:17 PM EDT
[#10]
Tan is by far the best all around color for every season.
Link Posted: 12/9/2010 5:30:28 PM EDT
[#11]
I could care less.  Rub some dirt on it and call it good.
Link Posted: 12/9/2010 6:51:47 PM EDT
[#12]
I just built this one because I thought it looked cool.  There aren't too many deserts in Tennessee.  But I'll agree that a FDE and black 2-tone such as mine blends better in any environment than an all black one does.

Link Posted: 12/9/2010 7:06:29 PM EDT
[#13]
I live in a black environment. So I left my gun black.
Link Posted: 12/9/2010 7:26:20 PM EDT
[#14]
Tan out here in the desert, and green works well too.
Link Posted: 12/9/2010 8:06:44 PM EDT
[#15]
I still have FDE magpul furniture on my son's AR22 only because I didn't dye it black yet. There is not much tan in West TN except dead grass.

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Link Posted: 12/9/2010 8:21:44 PM EDT
[#16]
I have two "tan" colored AR's.
About the only time they match anything around here is in the fall when all the crops are turning.
But they look good against the snow too, this one has doubled as a back-up coyote gun from time to time.

Link Posted: 12/9/2010 8:28:42 PM EDT
[#17]
Shades of brown are present every where in nature. FDE in a wooded environment is just fine.
Link Posted: 12/9/2010 8:34:43 PM EDT
[#18]
Shouldn't the "Evil Black Rifle" be BLACK ?

But, I'll admit that FDE grips, mags, handguards, etc... breaks up the profile of the weapon pretty dammed good. I agree that tan is likely the best all around color for blending into most environments. The rifle isn't going to be invisable anyway. The best camo is a ghillie type covering adapted to were you are at that moment.

Personally, I like the OD Green and Black combination. No reason other than I like the way it looks. But, I'm old and we wore OD fatigues in my day. Maybe that has something to do with it.

I would say, as a bottom line... Get What You Like.


Good Luck.
Link Posted: 12/9/2010 9:39:06 PM EDT
[#19]
The only thing anything would see is the end of the flash hider. Who cares?
I took days to pick a color  and said screw it, I may have to build 4
Link Posted: 12/9/2010 10:09:02 PM EDT
[#20]
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I live in a black environment. So I left my gun black.


Detroit?  

Woodland camouflage (and actual woodlands) have brown, tan, and green in them. So if you want your rifle to blend in, in MO, use all 3. If you only care about how it looks, and tan looks good to you, then do it and don't worry about what other people think.
Link Posted: 12/10/2010 1:04:27 AM EDT
[#21]
^  ^  ^



I have several rifles and after looking at a few that were all black I thought I needed to change things up a little.  Now I've got FDE, Foliage Green, and OD Green.  Another reason I put on colored furniture on my rifles is to break up the lines a bit.
Link Posted: 12/10/2010 3:20:54 AM EDT
[#22]
I think the tan colors are only popular because of our troops using it. If we were involved in a jungle war Id be willing to bet it would be the greens everyone would be using. If your worried about blending go with whats in your area, if thats green thats green. If you want to follow the current fashion trend go tan.



Or you could just leave it black, and if God forbid you ever needed to blend in, Krylon the thing whatever colors you need at the moment.
Link Posted: 12/10/2010 3:45:04 AM EDT
[#23]
The majority of my furniture is tan, but with the rail covers I went clown car (all colors but black).
Link Posted: 12/10/2010 4:30:40 AM EDT
[#24]
Quoted:
I think the tan colors are only popular because of our troops using it. If we were involved in a jungle war Id be willing to bet it would be the greens everyone would be using. If your worried about blending go with whats in your area, if thats green thats green. If you want to follow the current fashion trend go tan.

Or you could just leave it black, and if God forbid you ever needed to blend in, Krylon the thing whatever colors you need at the moment.


While I think tan or brown is a great all around camoflage I also believe this. Tan is trendy right now.
Link Posted: 12/10/2010 4:31:15 AM EDT
[#25]
I realized how good it was for AL when I dropped a FDE PMAG in some leaves. IMHO FDE blends much easier with my environment than green or black.
Link Posted: 12/10/2010 4:35:43 AM EDT
[#26]
Tan as a base and krylon as necessary with brown and green and black

Link Posted: 12/10/2010 5:01:28 AM EDT
[#27]
Straight from the sandbox that is central Indiana.

I just like mixing it up.

I have Black, Folaige, and FDE. Thinking on a UDE in the future.


Link Posted: 12/10/2010 5:02:13 AM EDT
[#28]
I do, and it's purely for funsies
Link Posted: 12/10/2010 5:22:55 AM EDT
[#29]
Excuses galore for desert fan boys! Unless deployed to a specific environment, dark neutral gray to matte black are the best weapons colors, as determined over the last 60 years of conflicts. In other words, a weapon that might blend in a specific setting will look garishly out of place in another. Camo generally should look like 'nothing' rather than 'something'. In WWII, G.I.s in the European winter used a lot of white camo in the snow, which obviously had to be long gone by the time the weather turned. I think it was some kind of 'whitewash' that was easily removable.
Link Posted: 12/10/2010 5:29:01 AM EDT
[#30]
Quoted:
Straight from the sandbox that is central Indiana.

I just like mixing it up.

I have Black, Folaige, and FDE. Thinking on a UDE in the future.

http://i397.photobucket.com/albums/pp52/MONGOWARRIOR/IMG00056-20100823-1541.jpg


Nice weapons
I was from Greencastle wich is near the center
Link Posted: 12/10/2010 5:43:35 AM EDT
[#31]
Quoted:
Excuses galore for desert fan boys! Unless deployed to a specific environment, dark neutral gray to matte black are the best weapons colors, as determined over the last 60 years of conflicts. In other words, a weapon that might blend in a specific setting will look garishly out of place in another. Camo generally should look like 'nothing' rather than 'something'. In WWII, G.I.s in the European winter used a lot of white camo in the snow, which obviously had to be long gone by the time the weather turned. I think it was some kind of 'whitewash' that was easily removable.


Who's making excuses
Link Posted: 12/10/2010 5:51:17 AM EDT
[#32]
I like Tan/FDE because it can sit in the summer sun and not get scorching hot...
Link Posted: 12/10/2010 8:04:29 AM EDT
[#33]
Quoted:
I do.
I'm a huge proponent of brown/tan based camo for use in a woodland environment.

Most large animals are some shade of brown, and it seems to work for them.


+1
Link Posted: 12/10/2010 11:33:35 AM EDT
[#34]
FDE and FG both work well around here in IL.
Link Posted: 12/10/2010 11:43:18 AM EDT
[#35]
I have Flat Dark Earth on my BCM 16" Mid-Length Carbine and i don't live in a desert. My reasoning was quite simple, the color Brown and it's various shades blend in almost everywhere all year round. Even in the winter here in OHIO with snow on the ground the shades of brown blend in because almost everything is a shade of brown or grey. Green only works for the late spring & summer and black sticks out like a sore thumb. There is very little black in the natural world, most things are shades or brown and grey with brown being the dominate color.

Link Posted: 12/10/2010 12:38:05 PM EDT
[#36]
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Tan will blend in with nature better than black.  Look outside and you'll see how little black there is in nature.


People keep repeating this, but I think they sometime forget about the amount of shadow in heavily wooded areas. That's why I think old-school tigerstripe can help break up outines in such an environment.
Link Posted: 12/10/2010 5:32:31 PM EDT
[#37]
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Tan will blend in with nature better than black.  Look outside and you'll see how little black there is in nature.


People keep repeating this, but I think they sometime forget about the amount of shadow in heavily wooded areas. That's why I think old-school tigerstripe can help break up outines in such an environment.


I have spent countless hours in the woods so i haven't forgot about shadows. The fact remains there is almost no black in nature. I've witnessed deer and even squirrels that have noticed my black rifle while i stand or sit motionless in the woods. They are not dumb and know that the mottled shape with the black stick in it's hands is bad. I've taken that same rifle back into the woods after painting it different shades of brown and they didn't notice it. Argue all you want, just because i have a low post count doesn't make me wrong, i have real experience. BTW: tigerstripe wasn't that great of a pattern.
Link Posted: 12/10/2010 5:46:43 PM EDT
[#38]
Whitetail are brown/tan and they blend in like they have the dam predator camo.  For where I live(close to Detroit) , I have one black and one tan for when I go hunting up north.
Link Posted: 12/10/2010 7:30:17 PM EDT
[#39]
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Tan will blend in with nature better than black.  Look outside and you'll see how little black there is in nature.


People keep repeating this, but I think they sometime forget about the amount of shadow in heavily wooded areas. That's why I think old-school tigerstripe can help break up outines in such an environment.


I have spent countless hours in the woods so i haven't forgot about shadows. The fact remains there is almost no black in nature. I've witnessed deer and even squirrels that have noticed my black rifle while i stand or sit motionless in the woods. They are not dumb and know that the mottled shape with the black stick in it's hands is bad. I've taken that same rifle back into the woods after painting it different shades of brown and they didn't notice it. Argue all you want, just because i have a low post count doesn't make me wrong, i have real experience. BTW: tigerstripe wasn't that great of a pattern.


ok I will start with this  if you need more examples let me know
and by the way I do have fde and od green rifles along with the good ole black ones

Link Posted: 12/10/2010 7:31:42 PM EDT
[#40]
I live in michigan. I want to get some white camo for the rifle I want to get but it won't fit in during the summer...I wish they made a color called poor and unemployed; it'd fit in perfectly here.
Link Posted: 12/10/2010 7:37:10 PM EDT
[#41]
I live in the "burbs"  on Long Island. If I really wanted my rigs to blend with my environment but Magpul doesn't make furniture that looks like vinyl siding so I got FDE instead
Link Posted: 12/10/2010 7:46:43 PM EDT
[#42]
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Tan will blend in with nature better than black.  Look outside and you'll see how little black there is in nature.


People keep repeating this, but I think they sometime forget about the amount of shadow in heavily wooded areas. That's why I think old-school tigerstripe can help break up outines in such an environment.


I have spent countless hours in the woods so i haven't forgot about shadows. The fact remains there is almost no black in nature. I've witnessed deer and even squirrels that have noticed my black rifle while i stand or sit motionless in the woods. They are not dumb and know that the mottled shape with the black stick in it's hands is bad. I've taken that same rifle back into the woods after painting it different shades of brown and they didn't notice it. Argue all you want, just because i have a low post count doesn't make me wrong, i have real experience. BTW: tigerstripe wasn't that great of a pattern.


ok I will start with this  if you need more examples let me know
and by the way I do have fde and od green rifles along with the good ole black ones

http://www.animalsintheworld.com/animal_articles/bears/images/american_black_bear.jpg


Your saying a rifle needs to blend in with a black bear?
Link Posted: 12/10/2010 7:54:53 PM EDT
[#43]
Any solid color is as bad as the next.  A black rifle will stick out.  A tan rifle will stick out.  A green rifle will stick out.  The point of camo is to break up the outline.
Link Posted: 12/10/2010 8:15:48 PM EDT
[#44]
Quoted:
Any solid color is as bad as the next.  A black rifle will stick out.  A tan rifle will stick out.  A green rifle will stick out.  The point of camo is to break up the outline.


Very true, but a dark color is always a bad choice for a base color for camoflage. If your weapon has a lighter base color you can overlay camoflage on it to help it blend, if it is black, or dark green then you need to cover up the base color, not complement it. Not disagreeing with you, just adding to what you say.

A nice dark color will stick out like a sore thumb in overlayed camolage (standing behind natural shit like trees and bushes) I am aware of shadows, but they are not black, they still have color, just with the absence of light. Let the shadows make shadows, not a black colored peice of equipment. Unless you are sitting in a pile of coal, a stack of old tires, or curled up in a black bears arms then black will do you no good as a camoflage. Having said that, almost all of my AR's are black, but my sniper rig is tan.
Link Posted: 12/10/2010 8:20:17 PM EDT
[#45]
Yes.

The other guys at the range don't seem to mind.
Link Posted: 12/10/2010 8:24:20 PM EDT
[#46]
Colored furniture is not going to hide your rifle. If you really need camo, break out the krylon. If not, pick what ever color you like.
Link Posted: 12/10/2010 8:35:54 PM EDT
[#47]
Quoted:
Colored furniture is not going to hide your rifle. If you really need camo, break out the krylon. If not, pick what ever color you like.


And that is the other truth to it as well. Nothing wrong with having different colored parts on a rifle. It's yours, fuck what others say.
Link Posted: 12/10/2010 10:25:46 PM EDT
[#48]
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Tan will blend in with nature better than black.  Look outside and you'll see how little black there is in nature.


People keep repeating this, but I think they sometime forget about the amount of shadow in heavily wooded areas. That's why I think old-school tigerstripe can help break up outines in such an environment.


I have spent countless hours in the woods so i haven't forgot about shadows. The fact remains there is almost no black in nature. I've witnessed deer and even squirrels that have noticed my black rifle while i stand or sit motionless in the woods. They are not dumb and know that the mottled shape with the black stick in it's hands is bad. I've taken that same rifle back into the woods after painting it different shades of brown and they didn't notice it. Argue all you want, just because i have a low post count doesn't make me wrong, i have real experience. BTW: tigerstripe wasn't that great of a pattern.


ok I will start with this  if you need more examples let me know
and by the way I do have fde and od green rifles along with the good ole black ones

http://www.animalsintheworld.com/animal_articles/bears/images/american_black_bear.jpg


1. Black bears do not have any natural predators.

2. Black bears do not hunt prey that requires stalking.


... And black panthers hunt at night.  
Link Posted: 12/10/2010 10:54:07 PM EDT
[#49]
SE Denver











 
Link Posted: 12/11/2010 3:30:16 PM EDT
[#50]
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Tan will blend in with nature better than black.  Look outside and you'll see how little black there is in nature.


People keep repeating this, but I think they sometime forget about the amount of shadow in heavily wooded areas. That's why I think old-school tigerstripe can help break up outines in such an environment.


I have spent countless hours in the woods so i haven't forgot about shadows. The fact remains there is almost no black in nature. I've witnessed deer and even squirrels that have noticed my black rifle while i stand or sit motionless in the woods. They are not dumb and know that the mottled shape with the black stick in it's hands is bad. I've taken that same rifle back into the woods after painting it different shades of brown and they didn't notice it. Argue all you want, just because i have a low post count doesn't make me wrong, i have real experience. BTW: tigerstripe wasn't that great of a pattern.


I don't see anyone saying anything about your postcount, so you may want to dial down your sensitivity switch. BTW, you're not the only person here with "real experience", so you might get off that high horse too. And tigerstripe worked very well where I was.
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