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Posted: 9/26/2004 12:22:58 PM EDT
Any suggestions on brand, and 5.56 vs .223
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 12:37:31 PM EDT
welcome to the board

hard to go wrong with bushmaster or armalite or RRA

build your own is an exceptional idea and cheaper................also very easy following simple instructions located in the "build your own" section

Link Posted: 9/26/2004 12:40:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/26/2004 12:41:06 PM EDT by poppinsexz]
go with a 5.56 chamber you can shoot both. If you get a .223 chamber you shouldn't use 5.56 ammo due to excessive pressures.
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 12:43:57 PM EDT
We need more info on your expected use before providing recommendations.

Fun shooting? Informal target shooting? Match shooting?

The AR15 platform is modular, there are as many varieties of upper assemblies as Heinz has pickles, and each has its own purpose that it is best suited for.

Link Posted: 9/26/2004 12:47:28 PM EDT
Target shooting to start eventually i'd like to get into some kind of compitition.

Anyone recomend any good books on the AR?
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 12:56:07 PM EDT

Originally Posted By spartus:
Target shooting to start eventually i'd like to get into some kind of compitition.

Anyone recomend any good books on the AR?

... The Bibles of the AR15 here FULTON ARMORY BOOKS
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 1:03:22 PM EDT
Personally I found "The AR-15 Complete Owner's Guide" (by Walt Kuleck with Scott Duff, see FultonArmory.com) very informative. Gives history of the system, a fair amount of technical info for the average user, and recommendations and examples for what kind of setup for various types of shooting.

Also stresses the modularity of the system, that is, using one lower receiver, which is the legal firearm, you can make it into different guns just by getting different upper assemblies (upper receiver/chamber/barrel combinations), thus saving you from having to buy whole new rifles. Since you indicate that your intent is to grow toward competition shooting, that may be valuable strategic info for you to consider, especially if, like most of us, you do not have an unlimited budget.

Link Posted: 9/26/2004 1:09:12 PM EDT


since you are building from parts, get a reputable kit--ask around here for brands if you are in ??

overall specs: CHROME lined bbl/chamber, 5.56 spec, forged reciever, mil-spec parts, and good luck

Link Posted: 9/26/2004 1:15:54 PM EDT
Welcome to the Boards and the Addiction.

Brand: I have a bias towards Colt, but in semi AR15, check out Rock River.

Books: two from Collector Grade Publications - The Black Rifle and The Black Rifle II. I find this board and FAQ is better than say, Duncan Long's AR15 book.
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 1:28:06 PM EDT
Avoid OLYMPIC ARMS like an HIV postitive, Haition, Homosexual hemophyliac!
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 1:57:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/26/2004 2:00:18 PM EDT by Dave_A]
Respectfully, MarkM doesn't have a clue what he's talking about...

Oly makes great rifles (speaking from personal experience, thousands of rounds of the worst possible ammo, and not one jam or malfunction), and there is effectively NO difference between Oly, RRA, Bushmaster, Colt, and Armalite except for finish color, price, and weather or not you can order a chrome-lined barrel...

That's it...

I would wholeheartedly recoommend OlyArms... Even if you do have trouble for some odd, unforseeable reason, they DO provide a lifetime warranty...

As for chamber cut, there is no reason to get a SAAMI .223 chamber....

.223 Wylde for match guns, 5.56 for 'fun' guns...

Make your first rifle a 20" A2, then get the 'lego-carbine' later on... Shoot the A2 alot, get good at it, and then pick up the less-accurate-but-fancier/lighter gun...

Unless of course, you're one of those guys who buys a carbine for status-reasons, to show off all the doo-dads they can bolt on when they go to the range...
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 2:21:03 PM EDT
Colt ! 16" removeable carry handle/flat top www.colt.com/CMCI/MTCompHBARII.asp
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 2:30:17 PM EDT
I like the Bushmaster M4gery w/ the A3 setup. It lets you get used to and proficient with the iron sights, but is ready for optics when you want to upgrade.
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 2:34:26 PM EDT
Get the Colt LE6920
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 2:46:50 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Dave_A:

As for chamber cut, there is no reason to get a SAAMI .223 chamber....

.223 Wylde for match guns, 5.56 for 'fun' guns...

Could somebody explain the differences between these three chamberings? I'm looking at buying my first AR as well, and have been eyeing the RRA DCM rifle which is .223 Wylde. Will I still be able to shoot 5.56 ammo through it without any problems?
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