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Posted: 8/24/2004 1:31:51 PM EST
Well I took the plunge and just ordered a pre-ban upper from BM. I'm gettin a 14.5" m4 A3 with 1:7 barrel and 5-port phantom. I also got m4 handguards for no particular reason. They said it would take 2-3 weeks for special order for the barrel, so by the time it is ready the AWB will be gone and I can get a lower with collapsable stock somewhere. I don't currently own an AR, post ban or otherwise, so I should be okay legally if it happens to arrive early. It was $700 after shipping for just the upper though, which I thought was pretty expensive since thats almost what a whole rifle costs! I guess if a complete lower goes for around $250 then it will be about right though. So, did I go good?
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 1:34:29 PM EST
Congrats... I'm still waiting to place that order! I'm looking for the BM 11.5/5.5 CAR in A3 with M4 handguards. Also looking at ARMS SIRS system with aimpoint M2 :-) Still can't decide on the collapisble stocks...


Link Posted: 8/24/2004 1:37:21 PM EST
im going to go with an ace socom stock.
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 1:48:06 PM EST
Heck, I done bet the farm.....



Link Posted: 8/24/2004 1:52:05 PM EST
is yours a 1:7 twist barrel though?

oh yeah and what are m4 handguards anyway I can't tell the difference...
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 2:06:56 PM EST
Nope, mine is a 1-9 twist, I likey that way........

M-4 handguards, well from what I understand are fatter around, for more heat resistance in heavy fire, at least that is my understanding, and I have been known to be wrong on occasion, just ask my last GF.......
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 2:08:41 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/24/2004 2:09:58 PM EST by WayMad]
Where can I get a 1:7 twist? I have been looking around and cant seem to find one in a 14.5" configuration.
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 2:09:57 PM EST
I called BM and ordered directly, just had to ask. I think I saw a few 1:7 14.5" barrels on the EE but I don't have the tools to install a barrel myself.
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 2:15:00 PM EST

Originally Posted By WayMad:
Where can I get a 1:7 twist? I have been looking around and cant seem to find one in a 14.5" configuration.


Bushmaster has them, but you have to call and ask.
LMT makes one as well and there are several vendors in the EE that can help you out.
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 2:16:31 PM EST

Originally Posted By WayMad:
Where can I get a 1:7 twist? I have been looking around and cant seem to find one in a 14.5" configuration.



Last week I ordered a MOD4 (M4A3) upper from CMMG with a 14.5" and perm phantom, chrome, 1 in 7 barrel and folding front sight. Cost about $645 shipped. I should get it next week. Let's hope no one pulls a fast one and leaves us holding the bag.

Link Posted: 8/24/2004 2:28:03 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/24/2004 2:28:42 PM EST by JTAC_Supply]
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 2:52:29 PM EST

Originally Posted By JTAC_Supply:
LMT Uppers





DAMN, I have to leave this thread NOW, my CC has allready been hit HARD, with the C&R and other things, I have to RUN FOREST RUN.............
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 3:56:19 PM EST
dont worry about the legality of it arriving early or anything just dont put it on till Sept14. BTW does bushmaster accept returns in case the AWB doesnt expire
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 4:25:31 PM EST

Originally Posted By repub18:
dont worry about the legality of it arriving early or anything just dont put it on till Sept14. BTW does bushmaster accept returns in case the AWB doesnt expire


It isn't likely to be renewed.

Even if it were, it would be a simple matter of changing the FH to a compliant muzzle device, and removing the bayo lug.
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 6:15:52 PM EST
if the ban got renewed I think I would buy a pre-ban lower before their prices skyrocketed permanantly.
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 6:46:50 PM EST
At the Harrisburg PA gunshows last weekend, I saw one dealer had complete Bushmaster lowers w/ A2 stock for $260, and w/out stock for $240. Anyway, I saw several people were buying them like crazy as the crowd got larger. I didn't really know what I was thinking- I decided to join in on the purchase which almost had to fight for it. Now, I am glad I did. Hopefully, I can mount the Pre-ban upper along w/ the retrackable stock on it , soon enough.
Link Posted: 8/25/2004 6:03:05 AM EST
Forgive me, I'm kinda new to this stuff.

After the ban goes away I want to build a M4 copy. Now I see your going to use a 14.5 barrel? Is this going to be legal after the ban? Or do I need a 16 barrel? Also what other parts will I need to make a correct copy of the M4?
Thanks,
Kevin
Link Posted: 8/25/2004 6:46:07 AM EST
It's a pretty sure bet at this point.

Now come February, when congress is back in session, well, you might want to have all your "evil" weapons assembled and documented by then....
Link Posted: 8/25/2004 7:00:08 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/25/2004 7:07:05 AM EST by TaipeiPersonality]

Originally Posted By hpshooters:
Forgive me, I'm kinda new to this stuff.

After the ban goes away I want to build a M4 copy. Now I see your going to use a 14.5 barrel? Is this going to be legal after the ban? Or do I need a 16 barrel? Also what other parts will I need to make a correct copy of the M4?
Thanks,
Kevin



NFA '34 makes 14.5" barrel restricted; the AWB doesn't change that. What some do is buy a 14.5" barrel and then perm attach a muzzle brake/flash hider that is at least 1.5" long to bring the OAL to 16".
Link Posted: 8/25/2004 11:22:01 AM EST
1shott, is that at KKF "A3 mil-spec" flashhider? I like those and they can bring the 14.5 to legal length and still kind of look stock...
Link Posted: 8/25/2004 12:00:04 PM EST

Originally Posted By JTAC_Supply:
LMT Uppers



Congrats Nuke and other guys on your new BM stuff.

The above listed product - LMT barrel- is what I have - In fact, I bought the entire LMT M4 upper and will tell you that the quality, finish, and fit are unbelievable. I could not be happier.

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