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Posted: 9/15/2005 5:28:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/15/2005 3:56:36 PM EDT by OG10807]
I'm trying to figure out what the hell I have here. It was on a two position tube, the number "3" stamped on the side . It looks exactly like the CAR non-ribbed stock. Who makes this thing? I'm not sure what I'm going to with it. The damn thing weighs about a pound by itself. I suppose you could take the stock off, and then beat someone to death with it. http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74/zaq12wsx/DSC_0159b.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74/zaq12wsx/DSC_0155c.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74/zaq12wsx/DSC_0153.jpg
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 5:35:19 PM EDT
If you don't want it, put it up for sale on the EE...
Some retro builder will take it off your hands!
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 6:27:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/15/2005 6:29:15 PM EDT by uxb]
Only if it is aluminum, mil-spec, and has the vinyl-acetate coating (similar in appearance and feel to the coating on the front sling swivel). Then the retro crowd will jump on it (me!me!).

If it's just an aluminum stock with no coating (some are textured) then it's just an aluminum stock.

Drop me a line if it looks like this one and you want to get something lighter...



Link Posted: 9/15/2005 6:43:11 PM EDT
Good point!

I think this is a "textured" version: CMMG CAR Stock

Now you've got both to compare...
Which one does yours look like?
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 6:56:22 PM EDT
These are made here: www.essentialarms.com/


This is the 4 postion textured finish version:

www.essentialarms.com/alumstock.html



and here is the 2 position with polyester coating:

www.essentialarms.com/mildimstock.html



Link Posted: 9/15/2005 7:34:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/15/2005 8:53:53 PM EDT by WIZZO_ARAKM14]
Are you sure it isn't an "8" on the side of the stock?

I got one from M&A Parts and it has an 8 on the safety-side of the rifle, just like the one above.

WIZZO
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 7:47:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/15/2005 7:51:17 PM EDT by OG10807]
it is a big "3" about 1/2" tall on the right side

came off a colt rifle (i just found this out, so i'm guessing it was made by colt?)

castle nut is the one with the little holes, instead of the new style.

it is black, not grey. it does not feel like it is rubber coated like the sling swivel. i will have my camera back within a few days. so i will post pics when i can.
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 8:07:18 PM EDT
Does anybody a close up of EA forged lower? And how good are their new ones? I had a cast EA it worked very well. I would like to get a EA forged lower, need more info on it.
Link Posted: 9/16/2005 2:00:06 AM EDT

Originally Posted By OG10807:
it is a big "3" about 1/2" tall on the right side

came off a colt rifle (i just found this out, so i'm guessing it was made by colt?)

castle nut is the one with the little holes, instead of the new style.

it is black, not grey. it does not feel like it is rubber coated like the sling swivel. i will have my camera back within a few days. so i will post pics when i can.




I suppose it's possible, but I've never seen a Colt aluminum stock w/anything stamped on it. Also, the two tightening holes on the collar go all the way thru, so you can see the threads thru the holes. The coating will be a smooth, kind of shiny, finish, very firm feeling. Not semi soft like the coating on the sling swivels. Finally, the butt will be checkered, though then checkering is semi filled in by the coating.

Oh yeah, the back plate is almost always a lighter shade of parkerizing than the collar.
Link Posted: 9/17/2005 5:21:28 PM EDT
pics up
Link Posted: 9/17/2005 6:44:03 PM EDT
You can drill additional positioning holes in the tube. They should end up 1/4" dia.

Of course, don't drill all the way into the tube. The drill bit will make a conical bottom on the hole, of course. So, you need to flatten out the bottom.

Dremel makes a 1/4" cylindrical mill bit that you can put in your drill press and finish the holes.
Link Posted: 9/17/2005 6:51:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/17/2005 7:08:54 PM EDT by OG10807]
i already have a bunch of colt 4 position tubes and m4 stocks thanks to gundealer3.
i just wanted to know more about it, this actually turned into a pretty cool thread with many different types CAR stocks
Link Posted: 9/17/2005 7:03:02 PM EDT
OG10807:

Does the diameter of the two-position tube mic' out at 1.150"? If so, I might be interested...
Link Posted: 9/17/2005 7:09:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/17/2005 7:10:52 PM EDT by OG10807]
nothing is for sale. this is just an info thread. yes it measures 1.150" with the mic.
Link Posted: 9/17/2005 7:15:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/17/2005 7:23:54 PM EDT by uxb]
Sorry about that, just in the thread above my post, before you edited it, you said you would probably list it in the EE. I was going by info from the "pre-edited" thread.

Nevermind...
Link Posted: 9/17/2005 7:15:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/17/2005 7:16:13 PM EDT by theshootersden]

Originally Posted By OG10807:
I'm trying to figure out what the hell I have here. It was on a two position tube, the number "3" stamped on the side . It looks exactly like the CAR non-ribbed stock. Who makes this thing? I'm not sure what I'm going to with it. The damn thing weighs about a pound by itself. I suppose you could take the stock off, and then beat someone to death with it. (joking of course)

Edited for grammar


also tracked my buddy down and he said that he took it off of an older colt ar15 a2 gov't carbine
pics:

i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74/zaq12wsx/DSC_0159b.jpg
i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74/zaq12wsx/DSC_0155c.jpg
i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74/zaq12wsx/DSC_0153.jpg



IIRQ, the 2 posistion carbine stocks were for the COLT 9mm SMG...
Link Posted: 9/17/2005 7:17:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/17/2005 7:18:32 PM EDT by uxb]
All the carbines I carried from 1979 to 1984 were two positions stocks on 5.56 carbines, to include the XM177 I had.
Link Posted: 9/17/2005 7:20:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/17/2005 7:23:34 PM EDT by OG10807]

Originally Posted By uxb:
Sorry about that, just in the thread above my post, befor you edited it, you said you would probably list it in the EE. I was going by info from the "pre-edited" thread.

Nevermind...



i edited the post after you asked. i didn't want to be the peddler of the AR tech forums.
Link Posted: 9/17/2005 7:29:21 PM EDT

Originally Posted By uxb:
All the carbines I carried from 1979 to 1984 were two positions stocks on 5.56 carbines, to include the XM177 I had.



Thanks for the info... Were they alluminum or plastic type?

This thread is getting very educational
Link Posted: 9/17/2005 7:29:59 PM EDT

Originally Posted By OG10807:

Originally Posted By uxb:
Sorry about that, just in the thread above my post, befor you edited it, you said you would probably list it in the EE. I was going by info from the "pre-edited" thread.

Nevermind...



i edited the post after you asked. i didn't want to be the peddler of the AR tech forums.



LOL...
Link Posted: 9/17/2005 7:34:25 PM EDT

Originally Posted By theshootersden:

Originally Posted By uxb:
All the carbines I carried from 1979 to 1984 were two positions stocks on 5.56 carbines, to include the XM177 I had.



Thanks for the info... Were they alluminum or plastic type?

This thread is getting very educational



The 2 position vynil coated stock existed from the XM177 to all colt carbines to 1983~1984.

The 2 position plastic stock from 1984~1989
Link Posted: 9/17/2005 7:36:01 PM EDT

Originally Posted By OG10807:
I'm trying to figure out what the hell I have here. It was on a two position tube, the number "3" stamped on the side . It looks exactly like the CAR non-ribbed stock. Who makes this thing? I'm not sure what I'm going to with it. The damn thing weighs about a pound by itself. I suppose you could take the stock off, and then beat someone to death with it. (joking of course)

Edited for grammar


also tracked my buddy down and he said that he took it off of an older colt ar15 a2 gov't carbine
pics:

i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74/zaq12wsx/DSC_0159b.jpg
i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74/zaq12wsx/DSC_0155c.jpg
i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74/zaq12wsx/DSC_0153.jpg



That stock is not Colt but the tube might be. Can you take a pic of the back of the tube?
Link Posted: 9/17/2005 7:41:14 PM EDT

Originally Posted By scottryan:

Originally Posted By theshootersden:

Originally Posted By uxb:
All the carbines I carried from 1979 to 1984 were two positions stocks on 5.56 carbines, to include the XM177 I had.



Thanks for the info... Were they alluminum or plastic type?

This thread is getting very educational



The 2 position vynil coated stock existed from the XM177 to all colt carbines to 1983~1984.

The 2 position plastic stock from 1984~1989



Thanks Scott... Now where does the 4 position come into play here? would it be 89-present?
Link Posted: 9/17/2005 8:01:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/17/2005 8:21:45 PM EDT by OG10807]
here is a picture of the back of the 2 pos tube

also is a reference picture of a colt plastic CAR stock from my other carbine with the "1" and "N" under the latch.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74/zaq12wsx/DSC_0142.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74/zaq12wsx/DSC_0137.jpg
Link Posted: 9/17/2005 10:14:14 PM EDT
The tube is colt

Link Posted: 9/17/2005 10:16:46 PM EDT

Originally Posted By theshootersden:

Originally Posted By scottryan:

Originally Posted By theshootersden:

Originally Posted By uxb:
All the carbines I carried from 1979 to 1984 were two positions stocks on 5.56 carbines, to include the XM177 I had.



Thanks for the info... Were they alluminum or plastic type?

This thread is getting very educational



The 2 position vynil coated stock existed from the XM177 to all colt carbines to 1983~1984.

The 2 position plastic stock from 1984~1989



Thanks Scott... Now where does the 4 position come into play here? would it be 89-present?



Actually, I want to take back that last statement. The 2 position plastic stock was used on the 6520 untill the mid 1990s.

When the 6721 and 6920 and M4 came out in the mid 1990s, they used 4 position stocks.
Link Posted: 9/19/2005 7:04:22 AM EDT
All of the carbines I carried were vinyl-acetate coated aluminum two-position buttstocks.
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