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Posted: 11/19/2013 2:37:40 PM EDT
Primary Arms 2.5X Compact AR15 Scope with CQB ACSS Reticle
This is the real deal. Designed from the ground up to be the ideal AR CQB and mid range optic. The Primary Arms 2.5X Compact Scope features a unique daylight visible red illuminated version of our Patent Pending CQB ACSS bullet drop ranging reticle. Waterproof, fog resistant. Mount included but also fits on industry standard full size ACOG mounts! Base can be removed for use on AR15/M16 carry handles. Front and rear flip up caps included! Optional Picatinny rail and Kill Flash are available for purchase. Comes complete with mount Designed for .223/5.56; .308; 5.45X39 Calibers Magnification: 2.5X FOV 35' at 100 yards Etched reticle requires no illumination but red fully Illuminated daylight visible reticle is built in. Waterproof/Fog resistant Eye relief 3.5" .5 MOA windage and elevation adjustments 5.5" long 15.5oz Multi-coated lens Fits in any full size Acog mount Uses single CR2032 battery (Included) Base can be removed for use on a AR15/M16 carry handle (Thumb screw sold separately) Front and rear flip up caps included! Top rail sold separately. 1 year warranty Only $249.99 LINK TO WEB SITE VIDEO LINK 
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Posted: 11/19/2013 2:42:48 PM EDT
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That's gotta be the ugliest thing I have ever seen.
I love it. Need more photos! |
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Posted: 11/19/2013 4:18:30 PM EDT
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That's gotta be the ugliest thing I have ever seen. I love it. Need more photos! Looks better mounted. LOL Will get some up tomorrow mounted. The offset puts it back over your rear flip for a great cheek weld. This is absolutely the best product we have come out with and a truely funtional CQB mid range optic. |
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Posted: 11/19/2013 8:16:59 PM EDT
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Finally! Only been waiting since the ACSS came out....
Waiting to pull the trigger when more pics come in. |
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Posted: 11/19/2013 8:46:49 PM EDT
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Finally! Only been waiting since the ACSS came out.... Waiting to pull the trigger when more pics come in. 
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Posted: 11/20/2013 4:45:36 AM EDT
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Finally! Only been waiting since the ACSS came out.... Waiting to pull the trigger when more pics come in. http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff166/ar15reloader/4Xlook.jpg http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff166/ar15reloader/98F6626C-51A6-40F0-9C1A-13A799B774B9-128-000000023B1C180C_zps2913fdb9.jpg http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff166/ar15reloader/photo-1.jpg http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff166/ar15reloader/0D919C4A-030C-4567-87AC-3F38ECD07665-1568-0000017163327C43_zpsccfaf3e1.jpg http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff166/ar15reloader/BCDDB2E0-32CB-4D3B-9307-45046E93A8E2-1617-00000177ED389A75_zpsd6e7a1f7.jpg Dimitri Magic Eight-Ball says: $249.99 
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Posted: 11/20/2013 10:14:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Magic Eight-Ball says: $249.99 Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Finally! Only been waiting since the ACSS came out.... Waiting to pull the trigger when more pics come in. http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff166/ar15reloader/4Xlook.jpg http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff166/ar15reloader/98F6626C-51A6-40F0-9C1A-13A799B774B9-128-000000023B1C180C_zps2913fdb9.jpg http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff166/ar15reloader/photo-1.jpg http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff166/ar15reloader/0D919C4A-030C-4567-87AC-3F38ECD07665-1568-0000017163327C43_zpsccfaf3e1.jpg http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff166/ar15reloader/BCDDB2E0-32CB-4D3B-9307-45046E93A8E2-1617-00000177ED389A75_zpsd6e7a1f7.jpg Dimitri Magic Eight-Ball says: $249.99 |
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Posted: 11/20/2013 3:25:08 PM EDT
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That's gotta be the ugliest thing I have ever seen. I love it. Need more photos! Mounting changes everything.  The deep offset makes it look strange off is what makes it work so well on a AR.
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Posted: 11/20/2013 3:28:24 PM EDT
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Dang, Primary Arms is getting into the Made in USA/Europe price range.
Hard pass. |
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Posted: 11/20/2013 3:33:43 PM EDT
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Dang, Primary Arms is getting into the Made in USA/Europe price range. Hard pass. WTF! $249 for a high quality prism scope is made in USA or Europe price range??? The closest thing is also made in Asia, cost $100 to $150 more, is no where near the quality and has a shit reticle. |
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Posted: 11/20/2013 3:40:21 PM EDT
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Dang, Primary Arms is getting into the Made in USA/Europe price range. Hard pass. The next closest thing to this kind of optic that is US made costs over three times as much. While $250 is a lot for a Chinese optic, I'd say this one stands out from the rest. It's still cheaper than the Burris AR332 too. Though Burris is coming out with a new line of prism sights, I don't expect their prices to drop either. Looks like any doubt of them coming from the same factory is gone too, as the new Burris has the same updated body. Burris is supposedly going to have a 1X, 3X, and a 5X option with their XTR horseshoe. |
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Posted: 11/20/2013 3:51:13 PM EDT
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The next closest thing to this kind of optic that is US made costs over three times as much. While $250 is a lot for a Chinese optic, I'd say this one stands out from the rest. It's still cheaper than the Burris AR332 too. Though Burris is coming out with a new line of prism sights, I don't expect their prices to drop either. Looks like any doubt of them coming from the same factory is gone too, as the new Burris has the same updated body. Burris is supposedly going to have a 1X, 3X, and a 5X option with their XTR horseshoe. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Dang, Primary Arms is getting into the Made in USA/Europe price range. Hard pass. The next closest thing to this kind of optic that is US made costs over three times as much. While $250 is a lot for a Chinese optic, I'd say this one stands out from the rest. It's still cheaper than the Burris AR332 too. Though Burris is coming out with a new line of prism sights, I don't expect their prices to drop either. Looks like any doubt of them coming from the same factory is gone too, as the new Burris has the same updated body. Burris is supposedly going to have a 1X, 3X, and a 5X option with their XTR horseshoe. Burris set the bar for lower priced prism scopes and we will continue to support their brand as well. We took a different approach with this and the new 4X. I wanted a better product than our previous 3X and did not want anyone to thing we copied someones design. The factory these come out of never made this kind of product before. They are used to making a variety of high quality product on higher quality machines than the traditional China scope factory. Dimitri designed a world class reticle and I am happy with the outcome. We continue to offer the highest quality US and European brands and are not saying these are anywhere near Acog quality. That said I think once the reviews start coming in the $249 price will be seen as the bargain it is. |
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Posted: 11/20/2013 4:02:01 PM EDT
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Quoted: Primary Arms 2.5X Compact AR15 Scope with CQB ACSS Reticle I like it |
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Posted: 11/20/2013 4:08:08 PM EDT
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While I have no doubt this scope is worth all of $250, and there will be one on my Christmas list, your past low prices for optics has us all spoiled.
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Posted: 11/20/2013 4:11:48 PM EDT
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any pics with the QD mount? Already have the PA red dot...and I have a feeling I'd be swapping them a lot depending on my mood for the day!
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Posted: 11/20/2013 5:34:14 PM EDT
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While I have no doubt this scope is worth all of $250, and there will be one on my Christmas list, your past low prices for optics has us all spoiled. We will continue to offer under $100 red dots, even our newest models. I am working on fixed power non prisim scopes that we can keep under $150. |
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Posted: 11/21/2013 8:33:37 AM EDT
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I'm trying NOT to spend money, damn you!
I really gotta stop visiting these forums... |
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Posted: 11/21/2013 8:39:05 AM EDT
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any pics with the QD mount? Already have the PA red dot...and I have a feeling I'd be swapping them a lot depending on my mood for the day! 
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Posted: 11/21/2013 9:42:45 AM EDT
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any pics with the QD mount? Already have the PA red dot...and I have a feeling I'd be swapping them a lot depending on my mood for the day! http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/marsh2001/25XonQD_zps01dd7b7e.jpg This may be a stupid question, but what is that on the front top of the sight in some pictures, but not on others? |
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Posted: 11/21/2013 9:52:02 AM EDT
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Is that the PA reflex ?
I can't wait to purchase my 2.5X -- will be buying this week ! |
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Posted: 11/21/2013 10:04:09 AM EDT
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Posted: 11/21/2013 10:29:24 AM EDT
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At 2.5x, will a regular AR-15 FSB interfere?
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Posted: 11/21/2013 10:35:58 AM EDT
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I like it.
And I find the lack of retarded rails on it to be refreshing!!! |
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Posted: 11/21/2013 11:47:25 AM EDT
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At 2.5x, will a regular AR-15 FSB interfere? No. You will see it as a blur but quickly tune it out |
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Posted: 11/21/2013 3:57:55 PM EDT
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Finger adjustable turrets?
Zero locking or resetting? Maybe too much to ask, I know.... 
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Posted: 11/21/2013 11:47:39 PM EDT
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Would this sight coexist with a Troy Micro Tritium BUIS system?
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Posted: 11/22/2013 12:07:36 AM EDT
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This looks promising!
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Posted: 11/22/2013 12:27:49 AM EDT
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Hey marshall, would those fit THIS mount?
Assuming those are real those are a great deal and would be sweet on that optic |
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Posted: 11/22/2013 2:26:30 AM EDT
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Your previous products were "disclaimer"-able due to low price ("not intended for combat" etc)
At 250$ I'd expect some torture testing, repeatability, durability-claims. You've earned your name and I'm sure we'll believe you if you claim it's good to go. But my first impression is very Daily show like; where the left wing indoctrinator can always fall back on "I am a comedian, it's a Comedy show take it easy " if he goes to far. I doubt we'll see many issues with any of yor products. But at 250$ It is going to be hard to fall back on "we are primary arms, this is not a combat ready scope". If this is 50-60$ less than entry level mil spec products (eotech 512 aim point c3) then it better be just that much short of their quality too. In sum: this is exactly the scope I'd want, And you won't Have to convince me that I need to spend $250 to get it what I want. But you will have to convince me to spend $250 on a primary arms scope |
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Posted: 11/22/2013 4:33:52 AM EDT
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Your previous products were "disclaimer"-able due to low price ("not intended for combat" etc) At 250$ I'd expect some torture testing, repeatability, durability-claims. You've earned your name and I'm sure we'll believe you if you claim it's good to go. But my first impression is very Daily show like; where the left wing indoctrinator can always fall back on "I am a comedian, it's a Comedy show take it easy " if he goes to far. I doubt we'll see many issues with any of yor products. But at 250$ It is going to be hard to fall back on "we are primary arms, this is not a combat ready scope". If this is 50-60$ less than entry level mil spec products (eotech 512 aim point c3) then it better be just that much short of their quality too. In sum: this is exactly the scope I'd want, And you won't Have to convince me that I need to spend $250 to get it what I want. But you will have to convince me to spend $250 on a primary arms scope It is $100 less than other name brand made in China "similar" products. Not sure where you are seeing $300 EOtechs and you are comparing a non magnifier optic to a prism scope. Our red dots sell for the same price they always have. Military Grade Prism scopes (Acogs) sell for $850 and up. It has been extensively tested. Dimitri has posted some of those videos. The reticle just flat out works as advertised. It is not Acog quality and could not pass torture tests that a Acog could pass. It is exactly $71 more than the Primary Arms product that is replaces. That was our most popular product of all time This one is better in every respect and we pay a royalty to use the Patent Pending reticle . I still would not recommend a $250 scope for duty use. Would you??? As previously mentioned duty scopes are in a completely different price range. We stock, sell and use plenty of them. If someone has the budget for a Acog that is the way to go. You say it is exactly the scope you want? Is it for duty use? Like many of our products people that think they might want a higher end product (in this case an Acog) will start with one of these. They will verify that a low power fixed with BDC reticle is what works for them and then upgrade. Put the entry level product on another rifle or sell it. Since we discontinued the 3X I have seen them sell for more than our orig selling price. For many it will continue to fit their needs. If anyone on AR15.com want to try one it will be at no risk. If want to try it for 30 days and if you don't like it we will take it back and eat all the shipping. |
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Posted: 11/22/2013 4:37:28 AM EDT
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Would this sight coexist with a Troy Micro Tritium BUIS system? I am going to guess you mean co-witness, and no, you don't co-witness irons with magnified optics. |
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Posted: 11/22/2013 4:50:52 AM EDT
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Hey marshall, would those fit THIS mount? Assuming those are real those are a great deal and would be sweet on that optic I don't see that model mount on LaRue's web site. The LT100 and any mount for the full sized Acogs will fit. I have a Boro on mine. |
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Posted: 11/22/2013 4:52:56 AM EDT
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Would this sight coexist with a Troy Micro Tritium BUIS system? The Troy folded flat will fit under the optic and shown in this pic. If you went in front of the rear in the raised position you would not be close enough to the scope. .
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Posted: 11/22/2013 8:02:39 AM EDT
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I don't see that model mount on LaRue's web site. The LT100 and any mount for the full sized Acogs will fit. I have a Boro on mine. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Hey marshall, would those fit THIS mount? Assuming those are real those are a great deal and would be sweet on that optic I don't see that model mount on LaRue's web site. The LT100 and any mount for the full sized Acogs will fit. I have a Boro on mine. Got a pic of yours on the Bobro? |
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Posted: 11/22/2013 8:54:53 AM EDT
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I just meant to give over my first impressions of that price.
I don't, and wouldn't, hesitate to recommend your products. I wish I could afford it and wish I had space, or a range, to use it! Quote HistoryQuoted:
It is $100 less than other name brand made in China "similar" products. Not sure where you are seeing $300 EOtechs and you are comparing a non magnifier optic to a prism scope. Our red dots sell for the same price they always have. Military Grade Prism scopes (Acogs) sell for $850 and up. It has been extensively tested. Dimitri has posted some of those videos. The reticle just flat out works as advertised. It is not Acog quality and could not pass torture tests that a Acog could pass. It is exactly $71 more than the Primary Arms product that is replaces. That was our most popular product of all time This one is better in every respect and we pay a royalty to use the Patent Pending reticle . I still would not recommend a $250 scope for duty use. Would you??? As previously mentioned duty scopes are in a completely different price range. We stock, sell and use plenty of them. If someone has the budget for a Acog that is the way to go. You say it is exactly the scope you want? Is it for duty use? Like many of our products people that think they might want a higher end product (in this case an Acog) will start with one of these. They will verify that a low power fixed with BDC reticle is what works for them and then upgrade. Put the entry level product on another rifle or sell it. Since we discontinued the 3X I have seen them sell for more than our orig selling price. For many it will continue to fit their needs. If anyone on AR15.com want to try one it will be at no risk. If want to try it for 30 days and if you don't like it we will take it back and eat all the shipping. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Your previous products were "disclaimer"-able due to low price ("not intended for combat" etc) At 250$ I'd expect some torture testing, repeatability, durability-claims. You've earned your name and I'm sure we'll believe you if you claim it's good to go. But my first impression is very Daily show like; where the left wing indoctrinator can always fall back on "I am a comedian, it's a Comedy show take it easy " if he goes to far. I doubt we'll see many issues with any of yor products. But at 250$ It is going to be hard to fall back on "we are primary arms, this is not a combat ready scope". If this is 50-60$ less than entry level mil spec products (eotech 512 aim point c3) then it better be just that much short of their quality too. In sum: this is exactly the scope I'd want, And you won't Have to convince me that I need to spend $250 to get it what I want. But you will have to convince me to spend $250 on a primary arms scope It is $100 less than other name brand made in China "similar" products. Not sure where you are seeing $300 EOtechs and you are comparing a non magnifier optic to a prism scope. Our red dots sell for the same price they always have. Military Grade Prism scopes (Acogs) sell for $850 and up. It has been extensively tested. Dimitri has posted some of those videos. The reticle just flat out works as advertised. It is not Acog quality and could not pass torture tests that a Acog could pass. It is exactly $71 more than the Primary Arms product that is replaces. That was our most popular product of all time This one is better in every respect and we pay a royalty to use the Patent Pending reticle . I still would not recommend a $250 scope for duty use. Would you??? As previously mentioned duty scopes are in a completely different price range. We stock, sell and use plenty of them. If someone has the budget for a Acog that is the way to go. You say it is exactly the scope you want? Is it for duty use? Like many of our products people that think they might want a higher end product (in this case an Acog) will start with one of these. They will verify that a low power fixed with BDC reticle is what works for them and then upgrade. Put the entry level product on another rifle or sell it. Since we discontinued the 3X I have seen them sell for more than our orig selling price. For many it will continue to fit their needs. If anyone on AR15.com want to try one it will be at no risk. If want to try it for 30 days and if you don't like it we will take it back and eat all the shipping. |
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Posted: 11/22/2013 9:15:10 AM EDT
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snip If anyone on AR15.com want to try one it will be at no risk. If want to try it for 30 days and if you don't like it we will take it back and eat all the shipping. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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snip snip If anyone on AR15.com want to try one it will be at no risk. If want to try it for 30 days and if you don't like it we will take it back and eat all the shipping. This has to be the most outstanding customer service ever. I have your 3X and love it. Maybe I will upgrade to this one someday I can get extra cash. |
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Posted: 11/22/2013 9:26:29 AM EDT
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What size is the center dot?
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Posted: 11/22/2013 9:57:42 AM EDT
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This has to be the most outstanding customer service ever. I have your 3X and love it. Maybe I will upgrade to this one someday I can get extra cash. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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snip snip If anyone on AR15.com want to try one it will be at no risk. If want to try it for 30 days and if you don't like it we will take it back and eat all the shipping. This has to be the most outstanding customer service ever. I have your 3X and love it. Maybe I will upgrade to this one someday I can get extra cash. It sure is.... Mine should be here in < 4 hours 
It's here!
Gotta run some errands before stores close...but the dark reticle is outstanding.... |
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Posted: 11/22/2013 10:22:44 AM EDT
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What size is the center dot? CORRECTION!! 1 MOA |
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Posted: 11/22/2013 2:27:07 PM EDT
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So about these "auto-lead" dots..... thats twice the average walking speed and half again more than average jogging speed and at the high end of running speed.
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Posted: 11/22/2013 2:38:38 PM EDT
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Hey marshall, would those fit THIS mount? Assuming those are real those are a great deal and would be sweet on that optic I don't see that model mount on LaRue's web site. The LT100 and any mount for the full sized Acogs will fit. I have a Boro on mine. Got a pic of yours on the Bobro? 
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Posted: 11/22/2013 6:03:37 PM EDT
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So about these "auto-lead" dots..... thats twice the average walking speed and half again more than average jogging speed and at the high end of running speed. But more to the point, at what range? The leads are set to 8.6 it's the average speed of a sprinting target holding a weapon. The leads are effective from 50-300 yards. the outer edges of the small horseshoe are at walking speed. Snipers use this lead to control insurgents from crossing roads. It's really handy when engaging targets with lateral movement. If your targets is moving slower or faster simple hold less or more. the lead difference between 50-300 yards is about 2 moa and the size of the dots. At 300 yards it's over a 4' hold so it really helps with knowing where to aim. Dimitri |
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Posted: 11/22/2013 9:34:45 PM EDT
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Finger adjustable turrets? Zero locking or resetting? Maybe too much to ask, I know.... Slotted so you can use a coins to adjust. Really don't need locking or reset. They are capped turrets. You zero and put the cap on |
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Posted: 11/22/2013 11:04:48 PM EDT
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I am happy to see Primary Arms recent offerings. Marshall is doing great bringing in products at a good price point that offer a lot of features. Thanks for your hard work.
Pat |
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Posted: 12/12/2013 5:30:56 AM EDT
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I have one on order. It is going on a Bushmaster .308 MOE rifle I have on the way.
BTW, they are having a Christmas sale on these wherein you order the scope at its normal price, and you can get a free quick detach mount for nothing with it. The QD mount is like $70.00 by itself. |
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Posted: 12/12/2013 8:43:33 PM EDT
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BTW, they are having a Christmas sale on these wherein you order the scope at its normal price, and you can get a free quick detach mount for nothing with it. The QD mount is like $70.00 by itself. Just ordered mine. The free QD mount is worth it. Already have the micro. Looking forward to this as well....Might just have to finish one of my lowers so they both have a home! |
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Posted: 12/13/2013 12:25:21 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/13/2013 12:52:19 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/13/2013 6:56:40 PM EDT
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BTW, they are having a Christmas sale on these wherein you order the scope at its normal price, and you can get a free quick detach mount for nothing with it. The QD mount is like $70.00 by itself. Just ordered mine. The free QD mount is worth it. Already have the micro. Looking forward to this as well....Might just have to finish one of my lowers so they both have a home! It's this kind of crazy thinking that made me build 4 AR's! Explaining to the wife why I have 4 of the same gun makes her laugh every time. Dimitri 4??!!! Rookie. lol Yeah that's just the start I love AK's so you can only imagine... Dimitri |
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Posted: 12/16/2013 5:54:22 PM EDT
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Glass on this compared to Nikon 223 3x scope?
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