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Posted: 11/19/2013 2:37:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/31/2013 10:58:29 AM EDT by MARSH1]
Link Posted: 11/19/2013 2:42:48 PM EDT
That's gotta be the ugliest thing I have ever seen.

I love it. Need more photos!
Link Posted: 11/19/2013 4:18:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/19/2013 5:11:17 PM EDT by MARSH1]
Link Posted: 11/19/2013 8:16:59 PM EDT
Finally! Only been waiting since the ACSS came out....

Waiting to pull the trigger when more pics come in.
Link Posted: 11/19/2013 8:46:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/19/2013 8:48:28 PM EDT by PrimaryArms]
Link Posted: 11/20/2013 4:45:36 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By HiBillyMaysHere:
Maaaaan that looks dope! Expected price range??
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Magic Eight-Ball says: $249.99

Link Posted: 11/20/2013 10:14:59 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By kallnojoy:


Magic Eight-Ball says: $249.99

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LOL just saw that....thanks though
Link Posted: 11/20/2013 3:25:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/20/2013 3:26:55 PM EDT by MARSH1]
Link Posted: 11/20/2013 3:28:24 PM EDT
Dang, Primary Arms is getting into the Made in USA/Europe price range.

Hard pass.
Link Posted: 11/20/2013 3:33:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/20/2013 3:39:50 PM EDT by MARSH1]
Link Posted: 11/20/2013 3:40:21 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By cochraneap:
Dang, Primary Arms is getting into the Made in USA/Europe price range.

Hard pass.
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The next closest thing to this kind of optic that is US made costs over three times as much. While $250 is a lot for a Chinese optic, I'd say this one stands out from the rest. It's still cheaper than the Burris AR332 too.

Though Burris is coming out with a new line of prism sights, I don't expect their prices to drop either. Looks like any doubt of them coming from the same factory is gone too, as the new Burris has the same updated body. Burris is supposedly going to have a 1X, 3X, and a 5X option with their XTR horseshoe.
Link Posted: 11/20/2013 3:51:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/20/2013 3:57:02 PM EDT by MARSH1]
Link Posted: 11/20/2013 4:02:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/20/2013 5:41:07 PM EDT by MRW]
Link Posted: 11/20/2013 4:08:08 PM EDT
While I have no doubt this scope is worth all of $250, and there will be one on my Christmas list, your past low prices for optics has us all spoiled.
Link Posted: 11/20/2013 4:11:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/20/2013 7:16:53 PM EDT by Torch54]
any pics with the QD mount? Already have the PA red dot...and I have a feeling I'd be swapping them a lot depending on my mood for the day!
Link Posted: 11/20/2013 5:34:14 PM EDT
Link Posted: 11/21/2013 8:33:37 AM EDT
I'm trying NOT to spend money, damn you!

I really gotta stop visiting these forums...
Link Posted: 11/21/2013 8:39:05 AM EDT
Link Posted: 11/21/2013 9:42:45 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By MARSH1:
Originally Posted By Torch54:
any pics with the QD mount? Already have the PA red dot...and I have a feeling I'd be swapping them a lot depending on my mood for the day!


http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/marsh2001/25XonQD_zps01dd7b7e.jpg


This may be a stupid question, but what is that on the front top of the sight in some pictures, but not on others?
Link Posted: 11/21/2013 9:52:02 AM EDT
Is that the PA reflex ?

I can't wait to purchase my 2.5X -- will be buying this week !
Link Posted: 11/21/2013 10:04:09 AM EDT
Link Posted: 11/21/2013 10:29:24 AM EDT
At 2.5x, will a regular AR-15 FSB interfere?
Link Posted: 11/21/2013 10:35:58 AM EDT
I like it.

And I find the lack of retarded rails on it to be refreshing!!!
Link Posted: 11/21/2013 11:47:25 AM EDT
Link Posted: 11/21/2013 3:57:55 PM EDT
Finger adjustable turrets?
Zero locking or resetting?

Maybe too much to ask, I know....
Link Posted: 11/21/2013 11:47:39 PM EDT
Would this sight coexist with a Troy Micro Tritium BUIS system?
Link Posted: 11/22/2013 12:07:36 AM EDT
Link Posted: 11/22/2013 12:27:49 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/22/2013 12:27:59 AM EDT by InfiniteGrim]
Hey marshall, would those fit THIS mount?

Assuming those are real those are a great deal and would be sweet on that optic
Link Posted: 11/22/2013 2:26:30 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/22/2013 2:27:57 AM EDT by chapperjoe]
Your previous products were "disclaimer"-able due to low price ("not intended for combat" etc)

At 250$ I'd expect some torture testing, repeatability, durability-claims.

You've earned your name and I'm sure we'll believe you if you claim it's good to go.

But my first impression is very Daily show like; where the left wing indoctrinator can always fall back on "I am a comedian, it's a Comedy show take it easy " if he goes to far.

I doubt we'll see many issues with any of yor products. But at 250$ It is going to be hard to fall back on "we are primary arms, this is not a combat ready scope".

If this is 50-60$ less than entry level mil spec products (eotech 512 aim point c3) then it better be just that much short of their quality too.

In sum: this is exactly the scope I'd want,


And you won't Have to convince me that I need to spend $250 to get it what I want.


But you will have to convince me to spend $250 on a primary arms scope
Link Posted: 11/22/2013 4:33:52 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/22/2013 4:37:28 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By DanielJohnHarris:
Would this sight coexist with a Troy Micro Tritium BUIS system?
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I am going to guess you mean co-witness, and no, you don't co-witness irons with magnified optics.
Link Posted: 11/22/2013 4:50:52 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/22/2013 8:02:39 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By MARSH1:


I don't see that model mount on LaRue's web site. The LT100 and any mount for the full sized Acogs will fit. I have a Boro on mine.

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Originally Posted By MARSH1:
Originally Posted By InfiniteGrim:
Hey marshall, would those fit THIS mount?

Assuming those are real those are a great deal and would be sweet on that optic


I don't see that model mount on LaRue's web site. The LT100 and any mount for the full sized Acogs will fit. I have a Boro on mine.



Got a pic of yours on the Bobro?
Link Posted: 11/22/2013 8:54:53 AM EDT
I just meant to give over my first impressions of that price.


I don't, and wouldn't, hesitate to recommend your products.

I wish I could afford it and wish I had space, or a range, to use it!



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It is $100 less than other name brand made in China "similar" products. Not sure where you are seeing $300 EOtechs and you are comparing a non magnifier optic to a prism scope. Our red dots sell for the same price they always have. Military Grade Prism scopes (Acogs) sell for $850 and up. It has been extensively tested. Dimitri has posted some of those videos. The reticle just flat out works as advertised. It is not Acog quality and could not pass torture tests that a Acog could pass. It is exactly $71 more than the Primary Arms product that is replaces. That was our most popular product of all time This one is better in every respect and we pay a royalty to use the Patent Pending reticle .

I still would not recommend a $250 scope for duty use. Would you??? As previously mentioned duty scopes are in a completely different price range. We stock, sell and use plenty of them. If someone has the budget for a Acog that is the way to go.

You say it is exactly the scope you want? Is it for duty use? Like many of our products people that think they might want a higher end product (in this case an Acog) will start with one of these. They will verify that a low power fixed with BDC reticle is what works for them and then upgrade. Put the entry level product on another rifle or sell it. Since we discontinued the 3X I have seen them sell for more than our orig selling price. For many it will continue to fit their needs.

If anyone on AR15.com want to try one it will be at no risk. If want to try it for 30 days and if you don't like it we will take it back and eat all the shipping.
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Originally Posted By MARSH1:
Originally Posted By chapperjoe:
Your previous products were "disclaimer"-able due to low price ("not intended for combat" etc)

At 250$ I'd expect some torture testing, repeatability, durability-claims.

You've earned your name and I'm sure we'll believe you if you claim it's good to go.

But my first impression is very Daily show like; where the left wing indoctrinator can always fall back on "I am a comedian, it's a Comedy show take it easy " if he goes to far.

I doubt we'll see many issues with any of yor products. But at 250$ It is going to be hard to fall back on "we are primary arms, this is not a combat ready scope".

If this is 50-60$ less than entry level mil spec products (eotech 512 aim point c3) then it better be just that much short of their quality too.

In sum: this is exactly the scope I'd want,

And you won't Have to convince me that I need to spend $250 to get it what I want.

But you will have to convince me to spend $250 on a primary arms scope



It is $100 less than other name brand made in China "similar" products. Not sure where you are seeing $300 EOtechs and you are comparing a non magnifier optic to a prism scope. Our red dots sell for the same price they always have. Military Grade Prism scopes (Acogs) sell for $850 and up. It has been extensively tested. Dimitri has posted some of those videos. The reticle just flat out works as advertised. It is not Acog quality and could not pass torture tests that a Acog could pass. It is exactly $71 more than the Primary Arms product that is replaces. That was our most popular product of all time This one is better in every respect and we pay a royalty to use the Patent Pending reticle .

I still would not recommend a $250 scope for duty use. Would you??? As previously mentioned duty scopes are in a completely different price range. We stock, sell and use plenty of them. If someone has the budget for a Acog that is the way to go.

You say it is exactly the scope you want? Is it for duty use? Like many of our products people that think they might want a higher end product (in this case an Acog) will start with one of these. They will verify that a low power fixed with BDC reticle is what works for them and then upgrade. Put the entry level product on another rifle or sell it. Since we discontinued the 3X I have seen them sell for more than our orig selling price. For many it will continue to fit their needs.

If anyone on AR15.com want to try one it will be at no risk. If want to try it for 30 days and if you don't like it we will take it back and eat all the shipping.

Link Posted: 11/22/2013 9:15:10 AM EDT
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If anyone on AR15.com want to try one it will be at no risk. If want to try it for 30 days and if you don't like it we will take it back and eat all the shipping.


This has to be the most outstanding customer service ever.

I have your 3X and love it. Maybe I will upgrade to this one someday I can get extra cash.
Link Posted: 11/22/2013 9:26:29 AM EDT
What size is the center dot?
Link Posted: 11/22/2013 9:57:42 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/22/2013 12:21:25 PM EDT by 9divdoc]
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Originally Posted By ragingyeti:


This has to be the most outstanding customer service ever.

I have your 3X and love it. Maybe I will upgrade to this one someday I can get extra cash.
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Originally Posted By chapperjoe:
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If anyone on AR15.com want to try one it will be at no risk. If want to try it for 30 days and if you don't like it we will take it back and eat all the shipping.


This has to be the most outstanding customer service ever.

I have your 3X and love it. Maybe I will upgrade to this one someday I can get extra cash.



It sure is....

Mine should be here in < 4 hours

It's here!

Gotta run some errands before stores close...but the dark reticle is outstanding....
Link Posted: 11/22/2013 10:22:44 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/22/2013 6:03:37 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/22/2013 9:34:45 PM EDT
Link Posted: 11/22/2013 11:04:48 PM EDT
I am happy to see Primary Arms recent offerings. Marshall is doing great bringing in products at a good price point that offer a lot of features. Thanks for your hard work.
Pat
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 5:30:56 AM EDT
I have one on order. It is going on a Bushmaster .308 MOE rifle I have on the way.

BTW, they are having a Christmas sale on these wherein you order the scope at its normal price, and you can get a free quick detach mount for nothing with it. The QD mount is like $70.00 by itself.

Link Posted: 12/12/2013 8:43:33 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By clancey2651:


BTW, they are having a Christmas sale on these wherein you order the scope at its normal price, and you can get a free quick detach mount for nothing with it. The QD mount is like $70.00 by itself.

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Just ordered mine. The free QD mount is worth it. Already have the micro. Looking forward to this as well....Might just have to finish one of my lowers so they both have a home!
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Link Posted: 12/16/2013 5:54:22 PM EDT
Glass on this compared to Nikon 223 3x scope?
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