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Posted: 10/27/2010 1:47:26 PM EDT
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Sr15
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Posted: 10/27/2010 1:49:55 PM EDT
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Sr15 Yeah, thats another option. Doesnt leave much room for anything else though! |
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Posted: 10/27/2010 2:04:25 PM EDT
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What kind of shooting do you do Clamber? What will be the primary "mission" of your new rifle? Defensive/training, hunting, varminting, range toy, competition? At what distances do you shoot? What are your accuracy expectations? What are your reliability expectations? Do you tend to run your guns hard and put em away wet, so to speak? What features do you consider most important?
We can all sit here and make suggestions all day long to help you spend your money. That said, it would be far better for us to help you spend it wisely. In order for that to happen, we need more information to help you make an informed decision that best fits your wants, needs, and expectations. Most of all, we want you to be happy with whatever AR you end up with 
Looking forward to more info. |
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Posted: 10/27/2010 2:05:14 PM EDT
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If I had 2K just for the rifle, I would look at the SR-15E3 or OBR Lite. Or you could make the leap into NFA and buy/build a SBR.
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Posted: 10/27/2010 2:08:27 PM EDT
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Sr15 Yeah, thats another option. Doesnt leave much room for anything else though! You don't need anything else... 
I would say a KAC or complete BCM. |
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Posted: 10/27/2010 2:09:26 PM EDT
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Check the EE for a used BCM upper, build your own lower with parts from the EE.
Buy a very good optics and still have money left over. |
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Posted: 10/27/2010 2:10:52 PM EDT
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Truly a SCAR
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Posted: 10/27/2010 2:34:32 PM EDT
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I would
A: build a duplicate of the one you had to sell B: get the Noveske or C: Build one with a Larue upper, lower and rail (800). Noveske barrel(455), Palmetto State premium build kit(224). BCM BCG (139) and stick an Aimpoint on it. |
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Posted: 10/27/2010 2:40:36 PM EDT
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I would build a lower and then buy a BCM upper w/ BCG which should be under $1000 pretty easy even if you get railed handguards. This leaves you with $1k for an optic, mags and ammo.
Don't forget a sling or BUIS though. Personally I would go with this upper for my only AR http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-14-5-Mid-Length-Upper-Receiver-Daniel-Defense-p/bcm-urg-mid-14%20ddox9.htm The choose lower and stock of your choice and your GTG. BTW I own 2 Noveske rifles and 1 BCM and for the value BCM can't be beat. |
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Posted: 10/27/2010 3:16:15 PM EDT
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I would build a lower and then buy a BCM upper w/ BCG which should be under $1000 pretty easy even if you get railed handguards. This leaves you with $1k for an optic, mags and ammo. Don't forget a sling or BUIS though. Personally I would go with this upper for my only AR http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-14-5-Mid-Length-Upper-Receiver-Daniel-Defense-p/bcm-urg-mid-14%20ddox9.htm The choose lower and stock of your choice and your GTG. BTW I own 2 Noveske rifles and 1 BCM and for the value BCM can't be beat. Except maybe by an SR-15 There, fixed it for ya. 
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Posted: 10/27/2010 3:34:29 PM EDT
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Personally I would wait till I had another $3-400 and snag a 18" Noveske 6.8 SS barrel SPR w the VTLOR upper and the free Blem Lower and throw a Trijicon Accupoint scope in a LArue mount and a UBR stock on it. Or just get an OBR. My 2 dreams.
Damnit I need $2000
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Posted: 10/27/2010 3:45:51 PM EDT
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Personally I would wait till I had another $3-400 and snag a 18" Noveske 6.8 SS barrel SPR w the VTLOR upper and the free Blem Lower and throw a Trijicon Accupoint scope in a LArue mount and a UBR stock on it. Or just get an OBR. My 2 dreams. Damnit I need $2000 You mean like this? And yes it is a 5.56 not a 6.8 
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Posted: 10/27/2010 3:45:51 PM EDT
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What kind of shooting do you do Clamber? What will be the primary "mission" of your new rifle? Defensive/training, hunting, varminting, range toy, competition? At what distances do you shoot? What are your accuracy expectations? What are your reliability expectations? Do you tend to run your guns hard and put em away wet, so to speak? What features do you consider most important? We can all sit here and make suggestions all day long to help you spend your money. That said, it would be far better for us to help you spend it wisely. In order for that to happen, we need more information to help you make an informed decision that best fits your wants, needs, and expectations. Most of all, we want you to be happy with whatever AR you end up with
Looking forward to more info. Sorry. I do mainly just range shooting if you can call it that. I just go out into the desert and shoot. Nothing crazy, but Im not just firing away aimlessly either. So pretty much a range gun. I want to get a optic with some magnification so I can shoot a bit farther than I did with my first AR. I just want it to be accurate obviously, but I think reliability is more important to me. I mean yeah I want to be able to hit what Im shooting at, but Im not going to be measuring groups every time. I clean my guns pretty well after every outing. Reliability and functionality are my first concerns. With that said, I think Im leaning toward a basic A4 build. Then add a Trijicon Accupoint and call it a day. Or maybe a midlength with an Accupoint. So probably BCM. I want a rail this time around so whats a good rail that doesnt cost a fortune? Quoted:
If I had 2K just for the rifle, I would look at the SR-15E3 or OBR Lite. Or you could make the leap into NFA and buy/build a SBR. Yeah, I could get the SR15, not sure if thats the best choice for me though. Quoted:
I would A: build a duplicate of the one you had to sell B: get the Noveske or C: Build one with a Larue upper, lower and rail (800). Noveske barrel(455), Palmetto State premium build kit(224). BCM BCG (139) and stick an Aimpoint on it. Although my first AR was great and performed flawlessly, it left something to be desired. May just have been the lack of an optic though. |
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Posted: 10/27/2010 3:47:10 PM EDT
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Personally I would wait till I had another $3-400 and snag a 18" Noveske 6.8 SS barrel SPR w the VTLOR upper and the free Blem Lower and throw a Trijicon Accupoint scope in a LArue mount and a UBR stock on it. Or just get an OBR. My 2 dreams. Damnit I need $2000 Yeah, I really want a SPR. Specifically a Mk12 or something close. Thats just so damn much though! |
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Posted: 10/27/2010 4:13:54 PM EDT
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If its just a range gun I can't really see a way to justify spending $2000 just on a rifle. I would go with a BCM upper and buy a BCM "blem" lower from G & R Tactical for $270. As far as a rail goes I would suggest getting a Magpul Moe rail, cheap and gets the job done for you needs! Then spend the rest on optic, mags and ammo.
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Posted: 10/27/2010 4:16:23 PM EDT
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Buy something that you'll actually use. I have an SR15 sitting in my safe along with some other goodies that people would go gaga over. You know what I always go to? An M4gery with iron sights. Go figure.
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Posted: 10/27/2010 4:19:33 PM EDT
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Personally I would wait till I had another $3-400 and snag a 18" Noveske 6.8 SS barrel SPR w the VTLOR upper and the free Blem Lower and throw a Trijicon Accupoint scope in a LArue mount and a UBR stock on it. Or just get an OBR. My 2 dreams. Damnit I need $2000 You mean like this? And yes it is a 5.56 not a 6.8 http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o240/tstanfield12/DSCN0989.jpg http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o240/tstanfield12/DSCN0990.jpg Exactly like that. You know I love that gun . But I want the 6.8 for Deer Hunting and something different that can reach out and touch something a bit harder ,since I already have 5.56 and .50 Beowulf
$1315.00 18" 6.8 SPR w/VLTOR MUR upper+ a free lower 
Total Accuracy |
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Posted: 10/27/2010 4:26:01 PM EDT
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is this your only AR. I believe a firearm is a tool to be used to save your life or someone else's. I don't believe in range or plinking guns. Now if this is a 2nd gun then you can buy a plinking gun but Id spend the money on ammo instead. I would buy your optic then spend the rest on your rifle. From what i hear of BCM I would buy a BCM and be confident in it. Id get the Noveske 14.5 basic tho.
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Posted: 10/27/2010 4:37:59 PM EDT
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I was just looking on BCM's site and I saw a Recce upper that caught my eye. It has the PRI handguard and I think if I couple that with a BCM lower and throw a Accupoint on top it will be just what I want
BCM Upper: $780 BCM Lower: $350 BCM BCG: $140 BCM CH: $45 Trijicon Accupoint: $780 Get some other small things and I should have a good rifle. |
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Posted: 10/27/2010 4:49:50 PM EDT
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I was just looking on BCM's site and I saw a Recce upper that caught my eye. It has the PRI handguard and I think if I couple that with a BCM lower and throw a Accupoint on top it will be just what I want BCM Upper: $780 BCM Lower: $350 BCM BCG: $140 BCM CH: $45 Trijicon Accupoint: $780 Get some other small things and I should have a good rifle. Looks like a great build. Nice budget for a single build clamber! Brad |
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Posted: 10/27/2010 4:51:31 PM EDT
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I was just looking on BCM's site and I saw a Recce upper that caught my eye. It has the PRI handguard and I think if I couple that with a BCM lower and throw a Accupoint on top it will be just what I want BCM Upper: $780 BCM Lower: $350 BCM BCG: $140 BCM CH: $45 Trijicon Accupoint: $780 Get some other small things and I should have a good rifle. That's what I have now sans the Trijicon on a Noveske Lower.LIke this B4 I added a few accessories 
Very good choice.. What are you going to use it for? |
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Posted: 10/27/2010 5:13:34 PM EDT
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You can definitely put a LaRue upper on a Spike's lower and have enough left over for an aimpoint.
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Posted: 10/27/2010 5:19:14 PM EDT
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what do you want this rifle to do for you?
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Posted: 10/27/2010 5:21:33 PM EDT
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I was just looking on BCM's site and I saw a Recce upper that caught my eye. It has the PRI handguard and I think if I couple that with a BCM lower and throw a Accupoint on top it will be just what I want BCM Upper: $780 BCM Lower: $350 BCM BCG: $140 BCM CH: $45 Trijicon Accupoint: $780 Get some other small things and I should have a good rifle. good choice |
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Posted: 10/27/2010 6:13:28 PM EDT
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BCM + Aimpoint + sling + light + ammo = $2,000
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Posted: 10/27/2010 6:38:22 PM EDT
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For $2000 I would most definitely get........ two AR's...... Absolutely NO need to spend 2k on one rifle unless you are definitely going into combat.
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Posted: 10/27/2010 6:39:11 PM EDT
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Adco Custom Cruiser Kit - $625
PRI Rifle Length FF Gen III Black - $320 Rear sight of your choice - $120 LMT SOPMOD Lower - $512 Light/Sling |
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Posted: 10/27/2010 7:03:04 PM EDT
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For $2000 I would most definitely get........ two AR's...... Absolutely NO need to spend 2k on one rifle unless you are definitely going into combat. While you're are definitely entitled to your opinion, I have a few AR's that exceed the $2K mark and I have no intentions to go into combat..Having said that, you are correct that you don't have to spend $2K to get a quality AR these days but, spending $2K or more is not far fetched depending on the build and it's intended use aside from combat. i.e competition, precision...Also, the $2K was for everything including optics.. |
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Posted: 10/27/2010 7:18:02 PM EDT
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For $2000 I would most definitely get........ two AR's...... Absolutely NO need to spend 2k on one rifle unless you are definitely going into combat. While you're are definitely entitled to your opinion, I have a few AR's that exceed the $2K mark and I have no intentions to go into combat..Having said that, you are correct that you don't have to spend $2K to get a quality AR these days but, spending $2K or more is not far fetched depending on the build and it's intended use aside from combat. i.e competition, precision...Also, the $2K was for everything including optics.. Pretty much said it for me. Pretty much all my AR's are around or over $2k w/ optics and stuff. I don't have a ton of shit hanging on them either, I just buy top of the line components. That being said a top notch AR can be had for $1k but when you start getting into optics, light mounts, lights and slings that stuff adds up fast and before you know it your up to $2k. |
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Posted: 10/27/2010 11:20:50 PM EDT
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For $2000 I would most definitely get........ two AR's...... Absolutely NO need to spend 2k on one rifle unless you are definitely going into combat. While you're are definitely entitled to your opinion, I have a few AR's that exceed the $2K mark and I have no intentions to go into combat..Having said that, you are correct that you don't have to spend $2K to get a quality AR these days but, spending $2K or more is not far fetched depending on the build and it's intended use aside from combat. i.e competition, precision...Also, the $2K was for everything including optics.. Pretty much said it for me. Pretty much all my AR's are around or over $2k w/ optics and stuff. I don't have a ton of shit hanging on them either, I just buy top of the line components. That being said a top notch AR can be had for $1k but when you start getting into optics, light mounts, lights and slings that stuff adds up fast and before you know it your up to $2k. +1 |
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Posted: 10/28/2010 1:25:45 AM EDT
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For $2000 I would most definitely get........ two AR's...... Absolutely NO need to spend 2k on one rifle unless you are definitely going into combat. While you're are definitely entitled to your opinion, I have a few AR's that exceed the $2K mark and I have no intentions to go into combat..Having said that, you are correct that you don't have to spend $2K to get a quality AR these days but, spending $2K or more is not far fetched depending on the build and it's intended use aside from combat. i.e competition, precision...Also, the $2K was for everything including optics.. A year ago I would have looked at you like you just killed my mother for saying that. Fast forward to today and I now have one AR that ran me right at 1100 before I change it to free floated and another that is pushing 1500 after being free floated but not converted to piston yet. I can easily see how a build with parts better than mine could exceed 2k easily. My builds weren't with the best money can buy. They were the best for the money spent. The first is still irons and the other has a budget minded Primary Arms 1-4 in a Burris mount that I kinda want to change for either the PA 1-4/Larue combo or a Millet/Larue combo. I love the PA scope but am kinda drawn to the Millet for some reason... |
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Posted: 10/29/2010 12:21:56 PM EDT
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Spikes is still as good as they were 6 months ago right? Im thinking about making a Spike's AR and that way Ill have enough for a pretty good optic.
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Posted: 10/29/2010 12:36:25 PM EDT
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Spikes is still as good as they were 6 months ago right? Im thinking about making a Spike's AR and that way Ill have enough for a pretty good optic. I'd look at a Daniel Defense upper personally, drop it on an inexpensive lower. Should be under a grand, with a Lite rail and CHF barrel. |
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Posted: 10/29/2010 12:48:10 PM EDT
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I was just looking at this upper. I'd put it on a Spike's lower.
That would be around $1100 and that would leave me enough to put an Accupoint on top. |
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Posted: 10/29/2010 12:49:36 PM EDT
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http://www.smartgunner.com/upperreceivers.aspx
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Posted: 10/29/2010 12:57:21 PM EDT
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I got the AR bug last April and built a Spikes/BCM 16" middy, but had to sell it shortly after to help buy a headstone for my dad. Well now I want back in, and Ill soon have about $2000 and I think another AR would be a good purchase. Im trying to decide whether to build one with BCM stuff, or buy a complete rifle. I could afford the Noveske 16" Basic Light Recce, and then get some basic accesories and maybe a cheap optic. Or I could build a BCM rifle and get more bang for my buck and possibly a decent optic. If I build a BCM rifle then Ill have to decide between an A4 or a middy. I kinda like the idea of an A4 and then getting an Accu-Point scope. But Im not 100% sure if I like the full length of the A4. Anywho, do you guys think Im headed in the right direction by looking at Noveske or BCM? Any other recommendations? N4 Basic . I bought the upper and put a Colt BCG in it and put it on a Spikes lower and couldn't be happier. You'll have that smile knowing you own the BEST barrel money can buy . It's not mil spec. because it's better. M249 barrel steel , thicker chrome lining, and CHF. I need say know more
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Posted: 10/29/2010 12:57:51 PM EDT
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OOPS
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Posted: 10/29/2010 1:06:17 PM EDT
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Thats tempting, but Im not sure.
Basically, I need $900 for the scope/mount so that leaves $1100 for the rifle itself. The last one I built was $1100 so Im not sure if I should do another build like that or try something new. So right now Im thinking Spike's Upper/Lower for $1100. The upper comes with their basic BCG and CH. I dont know much about DD so can anyone inform me on the quality of their uppers? |
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Posted: 10/29/2010 1:08:35 PM EDT
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Oly and $1200 of Leapers accessories from CTD.
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Posted: 10/29/2010 8:29:07 PM EDT
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Larry Vickers signed off on the DD guns. He's onboard with them and putting his name on their gun. They are top notch. Watch the video on the http://www.ar15.com/ home page.
Nothing wrong with spikes though; just that: From Smartgunner: Daniel Defense (Build Your Own) Custom Lite Rail Upper Receiver Group Item Number: LITE-CUSTOM Daniel Defense Cold Hammer Forged Barrel: 16" 1:7 Govt Profile Mid Length Gas System Fixed Front Sight Post AR15 Lite Rail™ 12.0 FSPM (Mid-length) Standard A2 Flash Hider (Included) Bolt Carrier Group, Complete, F/A, HP & MPI Tested Charging Handle Assembly $693.00 From AIM Surplus: Daniel Defense Lower Parts Kit Item Number: XDD21007 $79.95 DSA Complete Buffer Tube kit Item Number: XDSABK $39.95 Magpul CTR Carbine Stock M-Mil Black Item Number: XMAG310Blk $92.15 Surplus Arms & Ammo LOW15 Stripped AR Lower Receiver Item Number: F1SASL $59.95 Subtotal: $272.00 Grand total less shipping and transfer cost: $965 Better rail, better barrel, CTR milspec stock, (no gay spider logo everywhere ) and still room for the rear sight, a sling, some mags and possibly upgrade the stock to an ACS before you get to $1100. Dont care for the fancy stocks and just want a commercial M4 stock? Takes it down to $868.
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Posted: 10/29/2010 8:34:34 PM EDT
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If I had $2K I wanted to spend on an AR... I'd already have the LaRue OBR-lite on order by now...
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Posted: 10/29/2010 8:36:34 PM EDT
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If I had $2K I wanted to spend on an AR... I'd already have the LaRue OBR-lite on order by now... And no sights
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Posted: 10/29/2010 9:56:52 PM EDT
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BCM upper, Stag lower and the rest on optics and ammo. Or just get an Armalite M15 and spend the rest on optics and ammo. Gotta like that lifetime warranty.
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Posted: 10/30/2010 7:01:49 AM EDT
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What are you going to use it for? If it's a backyard plinker you go one way, if you want to shoot in matches you go another, if your life is going to depend on it, another still...
If you've got $2k for just the rifle, LT OBR556... If it's $2K for you entire setup, you might also consider a LT stealth upper, a decent lower, and good optic. |
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