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Posted: 6/25/2011 8:31:19 AM EST
[Last Edit: 6/26/2011 6:58:18 PM EST by jadams951]
Just got my two in yesterday. I was told they had 50 and had sold about half of them already so might be a few left.
Link Posted: 6/25/2011 8:40:11 AM EST
didnt see any on their site. Do I need to call?
Link Posted: 6/25/2011 8:44:23 AM EST
Originally Posted By mobhs:
didnt see any on their site. Do I need to call?


Yes

Link Posted: 6/25/2011 1:56:32 PM EST
How much$$?
Link Posted: 6/25/2011 6:17:00 PM EST
Originally Posted By smiley882:
How much$$?


$190+shipping for the bolt carrier and key

Link Posted: 6/26/2011 10:57:40 AM EST
Are they a DPMS or Armalite pattern bolt carrier? Do they have the notches for the forward assist on the Armalite pattern upper?
Link Posted: 6/26/2011 11:13:46 AM EST
How about some pictures?
Link Posted: 6/26/2011 1:32:11 PM EST
DPMS style



Link Posted: 8/18/2011 1:11:38 PM EST
Ordered mine and there are now only two left.
Link Posted: 8/18/2011 2:44:15 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/18/2011 3:09:13 PM EST by 11bravo01]
Got my 3... For anyone out there interested, these will work on POF, Hogan, and Doug's "Spartan" .308 uppers for forward assist purposes. Fitted them to my custom rifles, and headspaced perfectly (Using a JP Bolt).
Link Posted: 8/18/2011 3:00:21 PM EST
I wonder if these work with Mega Ma ten uppers?
I'm considering their upper/lower combos.

I have a Young match bolt in my RRA AR15.
It was a perfect drop in fit too.
Link Posted: 8/18/2011 4:19:08 PM EST
Any concerns with the gas key not being staked or is that not a big deal with these?
Link Posted: 8/18/2011 5:25:38 PM EST
Originally Posted By phoenix426:
I wonder if these work with Mega Ma ten uppers?
I'm considering their upper/lower combos.

I have a Young match bolt in my RRA AR15.
It was a perfect drop in fit too.


I use mine in Mega Maten build and no problems.

Link Posted: 8/23/2011 5:49:56 PM EST
those look great!
Link Posted: 8/24/2011 1:18:06 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/24/2011 1:18:53 PM EST by Big-Bore]
You need to stake them yourself.

I see 4 of these in my future, but not near future.
Link Posted: 8/24/2011 4:00:06 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/24/2011 4:02:30 PM EST by TheNewGabriel]
Originally Posted By Big-Bore:
You need to stake them yourself.

I see 4 of these in my future, but not near future.


I don't own any Young products so no personal experience but I know that they say not to stake them, and that doing so will void the warranty. They have a very specific method on their website, HERE, that gives their reasons for this and their method for attaching the keys. It may be different for the 308 bolt carriers though.

Gabe

ETA: I am skeptical of their method, as it uses a thread locker, and as far as I know most thread lockers are loosened by heat, something that it would have plenty of...
Link Posted: 8/31/2011 5:33:39 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/9/2011 6:14:37 AM EST by BLDTYLRY]
The Young BCG and JP Enhanced Bolt were meant for each other. Lubed the bolt and it slid it into the carrier with no issues. Its tight but not overly tight.







Almost done with my 308 version of the Mark 12 Mod 0

Link Posted: 9/3/2011 6:16:09 AM EST
Thanks for the post on the Youngs Carrier. What barrel are you using in your build?
Link Posted: 9/3/2011 9:33:33 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/3/2011 9:35:15 AM EST by jadams951]
Originally Posted By bushgun:
Thanks for the post on the Youngs Carrier. What barrel are you using in your build?


Rainier Arms ultra match 308 16" which is a shilen barrel tuned by WOA(I think).

Link Posted: 9/4/2011 11:43:59 AM EST
Originally Posted By jadams951:
Originally Posted By bushgun:
Thanks for the post on the Youngs Carrier. What barrel are you using in your build?


Rainier Arms ultra match 308 16" which is a shilen barrel tuned by WOA(I think).



Good choice that is what I used on mine very accurate barrel.

Link Posted: 9/4/2011 8:38:18 PM EST
Will these work on KAC rifles?
Link Posted: 9/5/2011 12:27:43 AM EST
Why did they get rid of some of the bearing surface at the back?
Link Posted: 9/8/2011 6:17:45 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/8/2011 6:33:05 AM EST by madcratebuilder]
Originally Posted By Big-Bore:
You need to stake them yourself.

I see 4 of these in my future, but not near future.



If you stake a Young carrier it voids the warranty.



ETA, I missed this comment.

ETA: I am skeptical of their method, as it uses a thread locker, and as far as I know most thread lockers are loosened by heat, something that it would have plenty of...


The Prematex Young uses withstands 300* heat, that's nearing the flash point of most lubricants.
Link Posted: 9/8/2011 4:23:35 PM EST

Originally Posted By madcratebuilder:
Originally Posted By Big-Bore:
You need to stake them yourself.

I see 4 of these in my future, but not near future.



If you stake a Young carrier it voids the warranty.



ETA, I missed this comment.

ETA: I am skeptical of their method, as it uses a thread locker, and as far as I know most thread lockers are loosened by heat, something that it would have plenty of...


The Prematex Young uses withstands 300* heat, that's nearing the flash point of most lubricants.


No staking = future problems, period.
Link Posted: 9/9/2011 6:08:03 AM EST
Originally Posted By Singlestack_Wonder:

Originally Posted By madcratebuilder:
Originally Posted By Big-Bore:
You need to stake them yourself.

I see 4 of these in my future, but not near future.



If you stake a Young carrier it voids the warranty.



ETA, I missed this comment.

ETA: I am skeptical of their method, as it uses a thread locker, and as far as I know most thread lockers are loosened by heat, something that it would have plenty of...


The Prematex Young uses withstands 300* heat, that's nearing the flash point of most lubricants.


No staking = future problems, period.



You personally have had a carrier on a YM bolt come loose?

Link Posted: 9/9/2011 6:20:59 AM EST

Originally Posted By madcratebuilder:
Originally Posted By Singlestack_Wonder:

Originally Posted By madcratebuilder:
Originally Posted By Big-Bore:
You need to stake them yourself.

I see 4 of these in my future, but not near future.



If you stake a Young carrier it voids the warranty.



ETA, I missed this comment.

ETA: I am skeptical of their method, as it uses a thread locker, and as far as I know most thread lockers are loosened by heat, something that it would have plenty of...


The Prematex Young uses withstands 300* heat, that's nearing the flash point of most lubricants.


No staking = future problems, period.



You personally have had a carrier on a YM bolt come loose?



No, not personally. But with 30+ years experience with the AR15 platform in both 5.56 and .308 (7.62x51), I have seen a multitude of bolt carriers fail due to improper staking, especailly on commercial grade AR's. I've seen all manner of thread lockers used including high temp versions of Loc Tite and others. The physics operating on the bolt require mechanical measures to insure the gas key bolts stay tight. Without staking, eventuallly, the bolts will come lose. For the casual shooter who may only put 1000 rounds a year thru the rifle, this will take a while. For the heavy users who shoot 25K to 30K a year, the bolts could come loss in a few months.
Link Posted: 9/23/2011 5:27:42 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/23/2011 5:28:28 AM EST by ARNEWB]
I have run 25K+ rounds on one of my YM-NM carriers that is not staked without a single issue. All in less than a year.

I have also checked the key bolts several times throughout the process and they have never even started to loosen.

A long time ago I had talked to them about building these, and at the time that didn't have much interest. Apparently, the .308 market has gotten big enough to interest them. Nothing short of awesome from the Young Manufacturing crew.

Looks like I will be buying 3 carriers, and 3 JP enhanced bolts... Hooray for my toy funds taking a big hit.

Any range reports?
Link Posted: 10/2/2011 7:25:37 PM EST
I bought my Young Mfg NM bolt and carrier through Rainier Arms and apparently they stake them, because it came that way. It is being used in a custom build consisting of a a Mega Machine side charging upper, a Wilson 24" 1-12 twist SS barrel and a YHM rifle length fore end. This is a varmint rifle and although heavy, is a lot of fun.
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