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Posted: 8/2/2005 5:40:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/6/2005 4:05:40 PM EDT by freemanesq]
(UPDATE)
I wanted to thank everyone who commented on the thread and give you an after action report.

We were at the deer/hog lease today tried the XM193 in the Mini-14. It did just fine. Made very loud bangs and had a lot of flash. We were shooting at a can that was tied to a little pine tree. As you'll see from the picture, the tree did not like the ammo. We weren't trying to kill the tree; it just happened. This was after about 25 rounds.

R.





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Original Post:

I've got a friend who just acquired a mini-14 (boo, hiss) and 2k of boxed XM193. I've read the Oracle and my gut tells me he shouldn't shoot this ammo in the mini-14.

What does the hive mind say (other than read the Oracle or do a better search for old posts).

R.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 5:44:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/2/2005 5:45:03 PM EDT by ElCamino]
Tell him to sell the Mini-14 and get a rifle that's actually useful.

That's just my opinion. As for XM193 in it, I wouldn't.

ETA: Just because I like to err on the side of "not blowing up"
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 6:13:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/2/2005 6:13:48 PM EDT by YELLOWV]
Yeah hot XM193 in the .223 chamber of a Mini 14 would not be my first thing to do. Right after shooting +P ammo out of a Rossi .38 special on my list of things not to do.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 6:19:10 PM EDT
I sold mine

but when i had it you couldn't pay me to try 556 loads
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 6:28:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/2/2005 7:51:15 PM EDT by elokoman]
Not recommending it, but I have shot XM193 from a Mini without any bad consequences, probably 100 rounds or so, no problemo. On the other hand I have a bolt gun that is chambered for .223, and no way would I run military 5.56 in that one. I had read posts on the BBS forum of others using 5.56 in Minis, so I didn't feel I was out on a limb too far. Again, definitely not recommending anyone try this without talking to Ruger about it first, but for me, touching some off was not a suicide wish. By the way, the Mini was definitely accurate enough to be in the zone at 100 yards, fine by normal AK type standards, but not even close to a good AR.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 6:34:18 PM EDT
So is the AC556 a 5.56 chamber?
I'm assuming so, I have a friend that shoots XM193 in his all the time.

Did they ever make a semi with 5.56 chamber?

Link Posted: 8/2/2005 6:38:28 PM EDT
The Mini-14 uses a 5.56 chamber.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 6:43:12 PM EDT
XD,

Thanks for the feedback. Can you hook us up with a source? The Ruger website says "Chambered in the popular and proven .223 Rem. cartridge." Here

R.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 6:53:04 PM EDT

Originally Posted By XD_Fan:
The Mini-14 uses a 5.56 chamber.



Mine says .223 on it but I swear I read somewhere it was a 5.56 chamber.
But not being marked as such I was always worried about it.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 7:42:37 PM EDT
This is a quote directly out of the owners manual for the mini 14

"The RUGER® MINI-14® RANCH RIFLES are chambered for the .223
Remington (5.56mm) cartridge. The Mini-14 Ranch Rifle is designed to use either
standardized U.S. military, or factory loaded sporting .223 (5.56mm) cartridges
manufactured in accordance with U.S. industry practice. See “Ammunition
Notice” & “Warning - Ammunition,” below."

The manual is downloadable from the web site.

Hope this helps.

FFF
Link Posted: 8/3/2005 1:14:20 AM EDT

Originally Posted By FlatFrogFlyer:
This is a quote directly out of the owners manual for the mini 14

"The RUGER® MINI-14® RANCH RIFLES are chambered for the .223
Remington (5.56mm) cartridge. The Mini-14 Ranch Rifle is designed to use either
standardized U.S. military, or factory loaded sporting .223 (5.56mm) cartridges
manufactured in accordance with U.S. industry practice. See “Ammunition
Notice” & “Warning - Ammunition,” below."

The manual is downloadable from the web site.

Hope this helps.

FFF


And verified in my Ruger armorer manual.
Link Posted: 8/3/2005 4:01:46 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Eric:

Originally Posted By FlatFrogFlyer:
This is a quote directly out of the owners manual for the mini 14

"The RUGER® MINI-14® RANCH RIFLES are chambered for the .223
Remington (5.56mm) cartridge. The Mini-14 Ranch Rifle is designed to use either
standardized U.S. military, or factory loaded sporting .223 (5.56mm) cartridges
manufactured in accordance with U.S. industry practice. See “Ammunition
Notice” & “Warning - Ammunition,” below."

The manual is downloadable from the web site.

Hope this helps.

FFF


And verified in my Ruger armorer manual.



Thanks everyone. I appreciate all this help. I consider this case closed.

R.
Link Posted: 8/3/2005 5:50:05 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Eric:

Originally Posted By FlatFrogFlyer:
This is a quote directly out of the owners manual for the mini 14

"The RUGER® MINI-14® RANCH RIFLES are chambered for the .223
Remington (5.56mm) cartridge. The Mini-14 Ranch Rifle is designed to use either
standardized U.S. military, or factory loaded sporting .223 (5.56mm) cartridges
manufactured in accordance with U.S. industry practice. See “Ammunition
Notice” & “Warning - Ammunition,” below."

The manual is downloadable from the web site.

Hope this helps.

FFF


And verified in my Ruger armorer manual.



So all Mini 14s havea 5.56 dimensioned chamber?
Link Posted: 8/3/2005 1:16:27 PM EDT
XM193 in a Mini-14

Shoots fine in mine.
Link Posted: 8/3/2005 4:29:43 PM EDT
Wouldn't make since to chamber it .223 when the flimsy barrel won't allow good accuracy.
Link Posted: 8/3/2005 6:19:27 PM EDT

Originally Posted By freemanesq:
I've got a friend who just acquired a mini-14 (boo, hiss) and 2k of boxed XM193. I've read the Oracle and my gut tells me he shouldn't shoot this ammo in the mini-14.

What does the hive mind say (other than read the Oracle or do a better search for old posts).

R.



I'll reiterate was has been said:

The Mini-14 has a 5.56 chamber, despite the .223 markings (pretty well known in Ruger circles)
The Mini-14 will shoot XM193 and XM855 just fine. Using a smaller gas port bushing will help
control the cycle speed of the bolt, and hence brass ejection, if you have a Ranch Rifle.

-Stooxie
Link Posted: 8/3/2005 9:20:22 PM EDT
my old man has a mini14 and i'm pretty sure it says its safe to shoot 5.56mm in the manual somewhere.

i've shot 5.56 without damage so far.
not any real long distances though, pretty weak twist isn't it?
Link Posted: 8/4/2005 7:22:32 AM EDT


No problem at all to use XM193 or M855 ammo in a Mini-14.
The Mini-14 is constructed to handle it....

Magnus
Link Posted: 8/4/2005 8:53:25 PM EDT
So, does Ruger offer a factor magazine of higher capacity than their 5 round standard? I was about to buy a mini 14 when a few black rifle people told me to strongly consider an AR. Damn glad I took their advice.
Link Posted: 8/4/2005 8:55:12 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Fast_Jimmy:
So, does Ruger offer a factor magazine of higher capacity than their 5 round standard? I was about to buy a mini 14 when a few black rifle people told me to strongly consider an AR. Damn glad I took their advice.



yes, they have a 20rd mag. Eaglefirearms sells them
Link Posted: 8/4/2005 9:06:41 PM EDT
Just make sure he does not have one of the .222's that were sent south of the boarder.
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 2:15:46 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Fast_Jimmy:
So, does Ruger offer a factor magazine of higher capacity than their 5 round standard? I was about to buy a mini 14 when a few black rifle people told me to strongly consider an AR. Damn glad I took their advice.



There are 30 round mags, also. Thermold makes one. Check the gun accessory websites.
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 7:55:58 AM EDT
Second, third and checkmate on this question, as having been to the armorer's school and firearms instructor for LE, the Ruger Mini-14 is made and chambered for the 5.56 mm military loads, both 55 and 62 grain, and is issued to our agency. To date, surplus military ammo has not caused any malfunctions in any of our rifles. I could not tell you how many rounds, but figure beaucoup powder burned.
I have put around 3000 rounds through three Mini-14's, and no problem whatsoever.
I am a Colt man, but respect the Mini and it's reliability, affordability and accuracy.
IMHO
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 7:58:11 AM EDT
P.S.- Since the ban lifted, you could get 20 rd factory Ruger mags at Cheaper than Dirt for around $24. Have to check and see if they still get them.
Link Posted: 8/6/2005 4:06:03 PM EDT
BTT for update.

R.
Link Posted: 8/6/2005 5:22:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/6/2005 5:25:22 PM EDT by sjohn46]
I too had a mini 14, traded it for a ruger 44mag.

I now own this

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v468/sjohn46/73886d7e.jpg
Link Posted: 8/6/2005 8:44:25 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/6/2005 10:15:08 PM EDT
My mini thirty had problems with surplus ammo. Firing pin didn't have enough power to ignite the hard primers.
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 7:34:02 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/7/2005 7:35:51 AM EDT by wshbrngr]

Originally Posted By sjohn46:
I too had a mini 14, traded it for a ruger 44mag.

I now own this

img.photobucket.com/albums/v468/sjohn46/73886d7e.jpg




I hope you kept the Ruger .44mag as well....(If you are talking about a .44 mag carbine)
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 10:51:49 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/7/2005 10:52:25 AM EDT by ElCamino]

Originally Posted By sjohn46:
I too had a mini 14, traded it for a ruger 44mag.

I now own this

img.photobucket.com/albums/v468/sjohn46/73886d7e.jpg



That's beautiful! Except for the Holosight

And I like Holosights... but I also like the clean lines of an uncorrupted A2...
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 12:07:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/7/2005 12:07:55 PM EDT by sjohn46]
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Originally Posted By sjohn46:
I too had a mini 14, traded it for a ruger 44mag.

I now own this

img.photobucket.com/albums/v468/sjohn46/73886d7e.jpg
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


I hope you kept the Ruger .44mag as well....
(If you are talking about a .44 mag carbine)



kept the ruger too, it is a Super Blackhawk.
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 12:10:01 PM EDT
that was fucking ass ignorant. m193 in a mini-14? is your friend alittle slow?
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 1:24:22 PM EDT

Originally Posted By AROKIE:
that was fucking ass ignorant. m193 in a mini-14? is your friend alittle slow?



Are you a little slow? Most people of somewhat mild intelligence would have read the thread before making such an ill-informed post about ignorance. Your inability to focus long enough to read 30 posts shows your level of commitment to great thinking.

If you can provide evidence that 5.56 NATO is not safe in a Mini-14, please let us know so that the rest of us can be safe. Without any evidence, you should just head on back to the couch and share your commando skills with others.

R.
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 1:29:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/7/2005 2:05:23 PM EDT by AROKIE]
I am wrong, I guess im alitte slow in the head. Rugers web site says for the mini-14 that standard military 5.56mm ammo is acceptable for use in the above mention firearm. I appologize to your friend and to the author of this post. I used to own a old ruger mini-14 and was mis informed

INSTRUCTION
MA­NUAL
FOR
RUGER®
MINI-14® RANCH RIFLE
AUTOLOADING RIFLE
This Manual Applies to Ranch Rifles,
Serial No.’s 580-00001 and Above
NOT FOR USE WITH MINI THIRTY RIFLES (cal. 7.62 x 39mm)
.CALIBER
.223 (5.56mm)

AMMUNITION
The RUGER® MINI-14® RANCH RIFLES are chambered for the .223
Remington (5.56mm) cartridge. The Mini-14 Ranch Rifle is designed to use either
standardized U.S. military, or factory loaded sporting .223 (5.56mm) cartridges

manufactured in accordance with U.S. industry practice. See “Ammunition
Notice” & “Warning - Ammunition,” below.
USE ONLY FACTORY AMMUNITION LOADED
TO U.S. INDUSTRY STANDARDS
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