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Posted: 1/25/2006 5:39:50 PM EDT
Anyone else know about this? I havnt read anything on it but I have had 2 different people tell me this and those 2 people i heard it from dont know each other. Will their ammo be going bye-bye or just the guns? I wont know what to do without good cheap winchester ammo!
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 5:51:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/25/2006 5:52:41 PM EDT by P-245]
I understand their firearm plant in CT is going. Employed about 200 people. Here is the link to the CNN article Linky. Olin-Winchester's ammunition plant in Illinois is going strong.

Olin-Winchester partnered with General Dynamics, et. el., and was awarded the Army's five-year, second source small arms contract.
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 5:55:42 PM EDT
I was told by someone at an Academy Sports and Outdoors Store the same thing while checking on stock of Winchester Q3131 ammo. They were out of this ammo, and I do not know if he meant ammo or if the Whole Company was shutting down.
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 6:11:51 PM EDT
Ya..The first thing i heard was only one plant was shutting down then they said something about all of winchester was going...I dunno
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 6:36:22 PM EDT
No freaking way!!!!!

Is this true?
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 6:42:05 PM EDT
The ammo plant is not, one of the gun plants is. There is still another firearms plant somewhere else as I understand it. Olin (the ammo guys) actually own the name now, they seperated from the firearms side of the business years ago. They just license the name to other people.
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 7:06:35 PM EDT
I've never really been a Winchester fan, but it's sad to see a piece of Americana going away.

They closed the Olympia Brewery here after 103 years of production. It was a Washington fixture in my mind. Same with Winchester at the national level.
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 7:30:34 PM EDT
Don't worry, it's only one of the rifle plants that is closing. The plant is a division of Winchester owned by U.S. Repeating Arms Co. It's not the Winchester that you guys are thinking of.

http://www.courant.com/news/local/hc-repeating-arms-0117,0,5088905.story?track=mostemailedlink

Can someone hotlink this?
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 7:43:37 PM EDT

Originally Posted By fst96ss:
Don't worry, it's only one of the rifle plants that is closing. The plant is a division of Winchester owned by U.S. Repeating Arms Co. It's not the Winchester that you guys are thinking of.

http://www.courant.com/news/local/hc-repeating-arms-0117,0,5088905.story?track=mostemailedlink

Can someone hotlink this?



LINK
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 7:46:33 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 9:00:13 PM EDT
Winchester is a division of Olin, a chemical company. It is the ammo manufacturer. Olin licenses out the name to various other companies to make Winchester rifles, shirts, fish lures, knives, etc.

The company that licenses the name from Olin to make Winchester shotguns and rifles is called United States Repeating Arms Company (USRAC). It is owned by Herstal, which also owns Browning and FN. USRAC makes almost all of its guns (70s, 94s, 1300s) in CT, except for some reproductions and a semi auto shotgun. USRAC is shutting that CT plant. There has been a long standing struggle with the union. After March, USRAC will only be selling the few guns it imports.

USRAC has the CT plant for sale. They are presently not interested in selling their right to use the Winchester name.

USRAC's license to use the Winchester name runs out in 2007. At this point, it is not clear what will happen after that.
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 10:19:53 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/26/2006 10:21:16 AM EDT by P-245]

They closed the Olympia Brewery here after 103 years of production. It was a Washington fixture in my mind. Same with Winchester at the national level.


Say it's not so! They say beer is an acquired taste, and I used Oly to do it in my college days when I was at Fort Lewis! Ugh! Pitchers of Oly were only $0.50 at the O-Club! It was cheaper than soda!
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 11:03:26 AM EDT

Originally Posted By fst96ss:
Don't worry, it's only one of the rifle plants that is closing.....It's not the Winchester that you guys are thinking of...



ONLY one of the rifle plants. It's the plant that has been there for what 100+ years? Where both my Winchester's were produced.

Pretty sad state of affairs when a Nutmegger is saying "it's only the Winchester Rifle plant", and "It's not the WIncheter you are thinking of". To those of use born & bred in Connecticut it IS the Winchester we're thinking of.



R.I.P. Winchester. Jeez the only reason New Haven has a reason to exist is now limited to Pepe's.
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 3:32:50 PM EDT

Originally Posted By brillo:

Originally Posted By fst96ss:
Don't worry, it's only one of the rifle plants that is closing. The plant is a division of Winchester owned by U.S. Repeating Arms Co. It's not the Winchester that you guys are thinking of.

http://www.courant.com/news/local/hc-repeating-arms-0117,0,5088905.story?track=mostemailedlink

Can someone hotlink this?



LINK



Thanks Brillo.
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 4:27:22 PM EDT
Yep the good ole 94 is on it's way out. Got a couple collecting dust, guess I'll hang on to them. But speaking of Winchester, I really like thier 22 Power points. Imagine my suprise when I can't find any anywhere. Midway isn't even taking backorders. Not just the powerpoints, but most Winchester period. Very strange indeed.

Chief

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Link Posted: 1/26/2006 4:51:20 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Forest:

Originally Posted By fst96ss:
Don't worry, it's only one of the rifle plants that is closing.....It's not the Winchester that you guys are thinking of...



ONLY one of the rifle plants. It's the plant that has been there for what 100+ years? Where both my Winchester's were produced.

Pretty sad state of affairs when a Nutmegger is saying "it's only the Winchester Rifle plant", and "It's not the WIncheter you are thinking of". To those of use born & bred in Connecticut it IS the Winchester we're thinking of.



R.I.P. Winchester. Jeez the only reason New Haven has a reason to exist is now limited to Pepe's.



Not only has CT's rich history as a center for designers and suppliers of arms and munitions for the USA been replaced by Indian casinos and Jai-Alai stadiums, it has become in general a gun-unfriendly state.

The Litchfield hills were the center for the colonial iron industry and were well known for supplying cannon to the Continental Army and the chain links which sealed off the Hudson River at West Point.

Colt established his historic Hartford factory after his first in Patterson, NJ went bust. Such guns as the early model cap-and-ball revolvers thru to the pinnacle of such guns, the Single Action Army, the Model 1911 and the original M-16 need no explanation.

Oliver Winchester went from shirtmaking to firearms manufacturing in New Haven when he ended up with the Volcanic Repeating Arms Company and the lever-action concept from Messrs Smith & Wesson. His gun designers (most notably B. Tyler Henry) took the design forward and the result was the truly American rifle.

Horace Smith & Daniel Wesson established their first S&W factory in Norwich.

The self-contained metallic cartridge, whose development was contributed to by many but whose final design is usually credited to S&W, was manufactured early on by Union Metallic Cartridge (post-Civil War, the buyer of the failing Remington Arms Company, and whose name survives as the military cartridge line of Remington's ammo products), Remington Arms and Winchester. Remington would go on to manufacture a significant percentage of the ammo used by our military during WWI, and would make 65% of all the small arms ammo used by the ALLIES during WWII.

Winchester would make major ammunition cartridge design contributions from its inception through the mid 1960's, would have a secondary M-1 Garand contract during WWII, would win the runoff of the competition for the unique firearm we all know as the M-1 Carbine (some contend was the first "assault rifle"), and would also design the cartridge it would use.

Now all this state makes is budget deficits trying to create a social Nirvana.
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