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Posted: 12/13/2016 3:12:10 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/13/2016 3:17:43 PM EST by Buffman_LT1]
I ran the velocity test on this awhile back, and had the opportunity to test it in gel. I'm not sure why this is labeled training only, other than maybe it doesn't meet accuracy or some other standard, but it goes bang, is on sale for $10/box at Midway, and it's got some good penetration from both a 10" and 16" barrel :). I'm also not sure what the parent round is supposed to be. The pull downs looks to be familiar to their other LE 62gr rounds.



Original Velocity Test:
Link Posted: 12/13/2016 6:26:41 PM EST
Good test. Thank you!
Link Posted: 12/13/2016 11:18:25 PM EST
biggest most obvious question would be why the Training only designation, seems like a pretty good round.
Link Posted: 12/14/2016 12:22:10 AM EST
Thanks for the test!

I wonder if that is the .223 version of their ZQ3314. Looks like the same projectile.
Link Posted: 12/14/2016 11:23:00 PM EST
Velocity seems quite low with 10 inch barrel
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 3:34:50 PM EST
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Originally Posted By WantsAnRRA:
Velocity seems quite low with 10 inch barrel
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Remember it's a .223 Loading. It's around 100 fps slower than other 62gr 5.56 loadings from the same gun.
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 5:08:50 PM EST
Good point. Seems that a 14.5 inch spits a 62 grain Fusion MSR about the same speed as the 16 inch spits those Winchester HPs though. Maybe I am wrong...

Definitely not a bad choice for the money.
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 6:15:22 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/15/2016 6:18:32 PM EST by dwhitehorne]
It is the FBI contract training ammo. Just a 62gr OTM round. The training designation for our ammo denotes a leadfree primer. It is just like the 3314/3315 rounds but that is the old contract ammo code. 3340 numbers are from the current contract. David
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 10:54:58 PM EST
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Originally Posted By dwhitehorne:
It is the FBI contract training ammo. Just a 62gr OTM round. The training designation for our ammo denotes a leadfree primer. It is just like the 3314/3315 rounds but that is the old contract ammo code. 3340 numbers are from the current contract. David
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Thanks David. Good to know. I don't see any issues even with a leadfree primer.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 10:58:10 AM EST
So does the lead free primer degrade much faster than regular primer? 3-5 year shelf life? Or the lot it came from tested with too many failures... There must be a good reason to designate it as "training use only".
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 11:26:28 AM EST
Not sure on the primers, but, usually Fed. Contracts for ammo requires 2 vendors. Just before Sandy hook, SGammo had some Winchester 64 gr. Heavy bonded FBI overruns. I bought 500 wish I'd bought 5000. Soon after, they had some training rounds that were the sister round. Otm, 30 round boxes, screaming deal.

The other FBI vendor was federal, with the tbbc. I personally like when these deals come up. They are usually good deals on cool stuff.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 9:11:40 PM EST
Thanks for the test, I got on here tonight to ask if anyone had tested this ammo in gel and here this was.
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 2:29:40 PM EST
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Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER:
So does the lead free primer degrade much faster than regular primer? 3-5 year shelf life? Or the lot it came from tested with too many failures... There must be a good reason to designate it as "training use only".
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I know when lead free primers first came out people stated 10yr shelf life. However FN has lead free primers in SS195 and SS198LF and they claim when properly stored they have indefinite shelf life like regular primers. I have some SS195LF that's 12yrs old and it goes bang...
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 8:11:54 PM EST
20 year shelf life on modern LF primers is common.
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