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Posted: 9/17/2004 10:20:49 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/17/2004 10:21:17 AM EST by StealthyBlagga]
I see a lot of people here like to mount their red-dot sights quite far forward, even using a cantilever mount or forend rail to get it way out there. Apart from maybe making the dot look slightly smaller, what are they trying to achieve ? I like my red-dot sights as far back as possible, which is the most forgiving of eye-position (i.e. gives the biggest field of view).

Am I missing something here ?
Link Posted: 9/17/2004 10:29:19 AM EST
Link Posted: 9/17/2004 12:16:01 PM EST
By moving it farther forward it improves the field of view and reduces any potential issues with paralax.

Personally, I've found that mounting red dots as far forward as you can while still keeping them on the upper gives the best performance and balance. Too far forward makes the balance and handling feel odd.
Link Posted: 9/17/2004 12:23:23 PM EST
Forward mounting also provides room for a nightsight that cowitnesses as well as backup irons.
Link Posted: 9/17/2004 12:27:29 PM EST
I like it in the middle. The rifle swings better that way.
Link Posted: 9/17/2004 4:47:53 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/17/2004 4:57:13 PM EST
its the best system for quick target aquisition. the quickest for sure.
Link Posted: 9/17/2004 5:00:36 PM EST
Forward mounted dots seem more "instinctive" to me. FOV isn't an issue because both eyes are open.
Link Posted: 9/17/2004 5:10:43 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/17/2004 5:51:37 PM EST by Lumpy196]
Link Posted: 9/17/2004 5:48:31 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/17/2004 8:51:27 PM EST
Well damn....Ive only got one eye..so what the hell else can I do..??
Link Posted: 9/17/2004 10:38:09 PM EST

Originally Posted By Lumpy196:

Originally Posted By Chuck:
Forward mounting makes transition from target to target much easier.




It also makes the gun front heavy, which slows down your swing between targets.

Ive also found that having it that far foward also allows the scope body to obscure the target at further ranges when tight against a barricade with minimal exposure (as in firing side eye only) - but who the hell uses cover?.

I dont get the whole finding the dot faster thing. I know my gun, I know where my face is supposed to be, and amazingly, the dot is just as red and just as easy to find with it mounted above the delta ring, and it doesnt move out of vision between shots.



+1

Very well said Lumpy.

-Cap'n
Link Posted: 9/17/2004 10:43:23 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/17/2004 10:43:57 PM EST by chrome1]
It's out front because thats where my 40+ year old vision isnt blurry ....................... Dammit
Link Posted: 9/18/2004 7:25:56 AM EST
Link Posted: 9/18/2004 8:08:12 AM EST
Link Posted: 9/18/2004 8:10:33 AM EST
Hey Chuck whats the date for the plate shoot?

Thanks
Paul.
Link Posted: 9/18/2004 5:01:24 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/18/2004 5:02:31 PM EST by StealthyBlagga]

Originally Posted By Paul:
Red dots are used with both eyes open so there is no field of view problems.



True in theory, but the further the sight is mounted from the shooters eye, the less forgiving it is of head position. This is particularly when trying to acquire a quick sight picture while in awkward shooting positions. You see this a lot with IPSC pistol shooters who use red dots... they present the pistol and then make circles in the air with their muzzle as they try to acquire the red dot in what is a comparatively small window at arms length.

I don't buy the balance argument - there are much better ways to alter the balance than to compromise on target acquisition speed. Frankly, you can train yourself to get used to just about any balance you like if you really want to. We're talking an AR here, not a fine over-and-under double shotgun.

The only answers I really buy into here are the guy with old eyes and the guy with the NV. The rest of you are not convincing me... I'm with Lumpy on this one. Closer to the eye is better.
Link Posted: 9/19/2004 2:33:19 AM EST
I use a cantilever mount to get my aimpoint out there. The reason I do this is for use with the PVS 14. Now truth be told I like the aimpoint back as far as I can get it. Don't really have a good reason why, I just do. It seems more natural that way.

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