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Posted: 8/12/2005 7:32:01 PM EDT

Seems like the former are quite a bit more expensive than the latter now.

Any opinions as to why?
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 7:54:40 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 11:23:08 PM EDT

Originally Posted By new-arguy:
B.A.C.



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Link Posted: 8/13/2005 11:19:12 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/13/2005 7:19:04 PM EDT
Becasue the TA01NSN irons dork work well at all and BAC works OK but not spectacularly.
Link Posted: 8/13/2005 7:53:45 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DevL:
Becasue the TA01NSN irons dork work well at all and BAC works OK but not spectacularly.



Are you saying neither of them is good? What do you think is better?
Link Posted: 8/13/2005 8:08:33 PM EDT
Both do a good job, it's up to personal preference.
Link Posted: 8/13/2005 8:49:09 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/13/2005 9:15:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/13/2005 9:18:14 PM EDT by npd233]
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Link Posted: 8/30/2005 11:55:19 PM EDT

Originally Posted By new-arguy:

Originally Posted By DevL:
Becasue the TA01NSN irons dork work well at all and BAC works OK but not spectacularly.



Speak for yourself. Different folks are able to use it better than others. I guess your just one of the others.

For those of you who have been wondering...

www.trijicon.com/aiming.cfm



That video was awful. I guess I am just one guy who'd never go out and shoot a dear. Can't do that shit.
Link Posted: 8/31/2005 5:00:52 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Cry_Havoc37:

Originally Posted By new-arguy:

Originally Posted By DevL:
Becasue the TA01NSN irons dork work well at all and BAC works OK but not spectacularly.



Speak for yourself. Different folks are able to use it better than others. I guess your just one of the others.

For those of you who have been wondering...

www.trijicon.com/aiming.cfm



That video was awful. I guess I am just one guy who'd never go out and shoot a dear. Can't do that shit.



Deer.................................a dear would be a pet name for a wife. I'd hope you wouldn't be able to shoot a "dear".
Link Posted: 8/31/2005 7:30:13 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/31/2005 8:10:14 AM EDT
Thanks to the increased desire for a 31, I just got a 01NSN for cheap! and I couldn't be happier with it. And i really don't see me being all the much happier just because of the BAC. Good idea, great idea for some, but I can do just fine with my little yellow crosshairs
Link Posted: 8/31/2005 8:45:09 AM EDT

Originally Posted By cowboy7242001:
Thanks to the increased desire for a 31, I just got a 01NSN for cheap! and I couldn't be happier with it. And i really don't see me being all the much happier just because of the BAC. Good idea, great idea for some, but I can do just fine with my little yellow crosshairs



I'll do ya one better. Because of vision issues I have, I seriously doubt BAC would work for me so I've been considering either the base TA01 or TA01C. Either should cost even less then the NSN model and have red line illumination. I know they NSN also has built on BUIS but they don't seem very practical to me. The NSN also come with a flat top adapter but most people seem to replace it and also I'm considering mounting it on an A2 upper anyway.
Link Posted: 8/31/2005 8:51:34 AM EDT
Originally Posted By cgv69:
I know they NSN also has built on BUIS but they don't seem very practical to me.

I'm actually surprised how much i like the BUIS on the NSN. I dont see them as MOA hole punchers at any good range (they might be?? havn't tried it yet) but they're fast on target for CQB. Better then trying to lever off your ACOG and flip up your own sights on the gun, unless ur mouned on a carry handle. Oh and theres a bunch more for sale on the EE right now, most are under 600
Link Posted: 8/31/2005 10:20:58 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/31/2005 10:45:04 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/31/2005 10:47:58 AM EDT by chewbacca]
I like the TAO1(not NSN) because the fine retilce allows for precise shooting and red IMO is better than amber, at least in my environment. Obviously it is inferior to a BAC ACOG for inside shooting and speed, but I think a TAO1 with a Dr. Optic on top beats the BAC. YMMV
Link Posted: 8/31/2005 10:48:05 AM EDT
BAC and fiber optic illumination.
Link Posted: 8/31/2005 12:17:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/31/2005 12:17:48 PM EDT by DevL]

Originally Posted By new-arguy:

Originally Posted By DevL:
Becasue the TA01NSN irons dork work well at all and BAC works OK but not spectacularly.



Speak for yourself. Different folks are able to use it better than others. I guess your just one of the others.

For those of you who have been wondering...

www.trijicon.com/aiming.cfm



A sighting system that works in some lighting conditions and not in others and never has the POA be the POI is not what I call spectacular. I can use BAC fine for what it is... a way to get center mass type shots in a hurry without precision when using a magnified optic in most but not all lighting conditions. A Dr Optic or 1X lit reticle variable is better than BAC for fast, precise shooting in low illumination at close range. That has nothing with different folks being able to use BAC better than others.
Link Posted: 8/31/2005 1:47:34 PM EDT
I have both a TA01NSN with an Optima red dot sight piggybacked on it and a TA31 with the triangle reticle. The BAC works ok for me and the TA31 is a nice neat package. I wasn't impressed at all with the backup irons on the NSN. The piggybacked Optima also works well. I prefer the reticle of the NSN at longer distances. There is just a lot of personal preference involved. The BAC doesn't work for some people. I have no problem with it. Best. Watch-Six
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 4:04:44 PM EDT

Well, my TA31F arrived, and... I GET IT!
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 5:19:11 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 5:22:17 PM EDT

Originally Posted By new-arguy:
B.A.C.




Yup, and the TA01 reticles are busy, where as the TA31 reticles are built for speed AND precision.

Link Posted: 9/15/2005 5:28:49 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 8:40:02 PM EDT

Originally Posted By C4iGrant:
The biggest thing folks should take away from a thread like this is that they need to try optics for themselves. Just like there is no "wonder" bullet, there is no "wonder" optic. I personally will never own an ACOG again (maybe a 2X compact). I have figured out that I do MUCH better with 1-4 variable scope.
C4



Good think ACOGS are so cheap: you can buy lots until you find the one you like!!
Link Posted: 9/16/2005 6:08:24 AM EDT

Originally Posted By C4iGrant:

Originally Posted By Watch-Six:
I have both a TA01NSN with an Optima red dot sight piggybacked on it and a TA31 with the triangle reticle. The BAC works ok for me and the TA31 is a nice neat package. I wasn't impressed at all with the backup irons on the NSN. The piggybacked Optima also works well. I prefer the reticle of the NSN at longer distances. There is just a lot of personal preference involved. The BAC doesn't work for some people. I have no problem with it. Best. Watch-Six





Agree. A NSN with a JPoint or Dr mounted on it is a better choice to me than a TA31 as it is faster in CQB.



C4



I have a NSN with Optima also and I have used a TA31F. The more I train the more I feel the TA31 is a better choice. The Optima is fairly paticular on it's cheekweld (or should I say chinweld) and the dot can be washed out. While the battery life is phenomenal I have had it go out at a less than desirable time and maybe it's just the thought that worries me. Plus it's another thing to break.

So I've been thinking about switching to the TA31F: One piece of equipment, one cheekweld, one zero, daytime illumination and no batteries.

Maybe my theories are wrong?
Link Posted: 9/16/2005 6:18:48 AM EDT
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