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Posted: 4/27/2003 7:20:05 AM EST
I have been into ARs for years and I have had them all, but I recently purchased a Daewoo K1A1. For those of you that remember its the one with the wire stock and the Built in flash hider. They take AR mags and the overall length is shorter than any 16" barrel rifle I have ever seen. I have to say this thing is one of the neatest rifles I have ever owned. It shoots like a champ with very little recoile.

Does anyone else share my passion for these neat little buggers? Anyone know about thier history, and what made them so evil that they were in the 1986 Ban?

Link Posted: 4/27/2003 7:53:43 AM EST
The US M16 made its way to Taiwan, where it was modified to use an indirect impingement gas system (gas piston and op rod), it was dubbed the T65 Rifle... this rifle went to the ROK soldiers, where it proved to have some problems. A program was instituted to fix the shortcomings of the T65 and out of that was derieved the K series of rifles... Yes, a very good rifle! The K1 and K2 series were listed by name in the importation ban, as they "failed to meet the definition of a sporting purpose rifle" despite efforts to make it look more "sporty". It is a shame, the K series are a VERY good rifle. There are rumors of the rifle being usurped by business practices more than anything else... but that is another story. HIH?
Link Posted: 4/27/2003 8:09:22 AM EST
Gunzilla, Thanks thats just the kind of stuff Im looking for, What else? How do I post a picture of my new toy?
Link Posted: 4/27/2003 8:54:03 AM EST
How do you like the saftey?
Link Posted: 4/27/2003 9:06:52 AM EST
I like the saftey just fine, Am I supposed to read anything into that? Do they have problems with the saftey?
Link Posted: 4/27/2003 9:14:52 AM EST
The Daewoo's I have shot have had the type of saftey that requires sweeping it 180 degrees with the thumb vs. 90 with the AR. Its hard to push down with the thumb and then back up to fully disengage the saftey and visa-versa. Thats it, no other complaints. Besides the saftey issue they are awesome rifles, in some ways better than the AR. Maybe you have a different model, I'm no Daewoo expert.
Link Posted: 4/27/2003 10:10:16 AM EST
Oh I see what you mean. Yes that is a bit of a pain, I had not even noticed that before, you do have to spin the saftey around.
Link Posted: 4/27/2003 11:29:39 AM EST
Link Posted: 4/27/2003 6:14:26 PM EST
I love them too. Both my DR200 and Max 1 or K1A1 (anybody know why two different names) are two of my most favorite guns to shoot. The fact that they take AR mags makes them even cooler in my book. I am thinking of adding a K2 to my collection if I find the right deal. I am a bit bothered by the lack of spare parts but, I am in the military and have ties to Korea so if I really needed to, I could get a buddy to find me some. Hopefully I won't need to.
Link Posted: 4/27/2003 7:57:16 PM EST
I like the daewoos also, i have the pistols and 4 rifles. my buddy used to have the K3 a few years back. try and find parts for that thing. we blew a barrel, took 6 months & $700. at least the k1/k2/dr fire control parts interchange with the ar's. the only parts i ever heard break (beside the bbl above) were bolts. there are new USA made k2/dr200 bolts listed on Sturmgewehr.
Link Posted: 4/27/2003 8:10:01 PM EST
These riot police pulling guard outside of our post carry the Daewoos. They'll probably let me have some "spare" parts if I tell them it's for you [b][i]AR15.com[/b][/i] guys. [;)] [:D] About two months ago, they had M16A1's. The receivers had no finish on them, but they looked to be in great shape. First thing that came to my mind when I saw one was "I bet THAT'S a preban!". Chris
Link Posted: 4/27/2003 9:25:22 PM EST
I have owned a DR200 for about five years, and it's been as faithful to me as any gun can be! I just bought an ACE stock for it, and will be getting my US-made FCG for it tomorrow (AR-15 parts). That way, it'll have a skeleton stock and be 100% legal (it needs the five US-made parts). It's one of my favorite guns.
Link Posted: 4/28/2003 1:23:30 AM EST
Just an interesting fact here.. the K1 was the original, and the K2 is variant. The K1 program began in order to replace grease gun that was used by Korean specops and anyone who needed carbine. so K1 came in. then K2 began because Colt finished their deal with Daewoo and they weren't allowed manufacture 16s anymore, so they developed rifle version of K1 and that is K2. (BTW K2 proto had skeleton stock a la FNC but now with plastic because the gov. wanted to save $$$ :( ) the rumour now is that the new one will be like G36 yep, my origin is ROK:) bye
Link Posted: 4/28/2003 1:32:34 AM EST
Link Posted: 4/28/2003 1:49:53 AM EST
Originally Posted By Aimless: I saw a NIB 7.62x39 Daewoo at a gunshow recently. I didn't know they had made those.
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Link Posted: 4/28/2003 5:03:27 AM EST
I purchased a Daewoo Max-2 back around '85 or '86. I couldn't afford an AR-15 at the time and these were selling for around $325 (dealer's cost). After reading some good reviews, made the decision to buy it and never questioned afterwards. It is a blast to shoot! It is very accurate and I have never had any problems with it. The combination of all of the positive attributes from the AR-15, AK-47 and the FN-FAL blended well when they developed this rifle. My rifle has a 1-7" twist, but handles the 55 gr. bullet quite well. I've got some AR's now to compare but the Daewoo is my "baby"! (Damn those politicians that banned this, and any other imported rifle from our shores!)
Link Posted: 4/28/2003 7:51:50 AM EST
Great I had an opportunity to buy one and passed it up. If I would have read this earlier I would have bought it. Do all the K1A1s have a 1 in 7 twist rate??? Kicking myself......
Link Posted: 4/28/2003 3:15:02 PM EST
Not trying to highjack your post but I have got one for sale if anybody is interested. [url]http://ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=7&f=93&t=164134&w=myTopicPop[/url] [img]http://photos.ar15.com/WS_Content/ImageGallery/IG_LoadImage.asp?iImageUnq=11375[/img] [img]http://photos.ar15.com/WS_Content/ImageGallery/IG_LoadImage.asp?iImageUnq=11377[/img] Cruizer
Link Posted: 4/28/2003 3:36:33 PM EST
Cruizer I cant find your E-mail. Send me one, I got an offer for ya. E-wilson007@msn.com Thanks
Link Posted: 4/28/2003 7:23:27 PM EST
Here's my DR-200 with an ACE stock I just put on it today: [img]http://www.burnerblog.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_inventory%20001.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 4/29/2003 4:00:33 AM EST
The more I look at mine I think it could take a AR barreal as a replacement and probably some type of free float tube. It would be a slick setup with a real short barrel, a railed free float tube, some type of forward mounted holo or red dot sight, and a forward grip. Cruizer
Link Posted: 4/29/2003 6:34:18 AM EST
Cruizer the K1 like you have is the only Daewoo that might work with the firsh as it uses the same gas system as the AR15. The DR200/K2 uses a piston like an AK47. Just putting in my .02 worth. Didn't see any note of that here. BTW, there are US made DR200/K2 bolts for sale on one of the other boards. [url=www.sturmgewehr.com/webBBS/parts.cgi?read=71168]DR200 & K2 bolts[/url]
Link Posted: 4/29/2003 7:34:15 AM EST
[Last Edit: 4/29/2003 7:39:17 AM EST by VTDefender]
Found this picture a while back. Looks like someone was a little dremel-happy LOL [img]http://freesites.pshift.net/~vtdefender/images/Falwoo1.jpg[/img] Believe he called it "The FALWoo".
Link Posted: 4/29/2003 8:07:04 PM EST
Originally Posted By cruizer: The more I look at mine I think it could take a AR barreal as a replacement
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I think I remember Kurt doing a barrel replacement, putting a Bushmaster barrel on a DR200. You might ask him about feasability. I'm not sure how the barrel attaches to the upper but it is obviously different than on an AR.
Link Posted: 4/29/2003 8:15:41 PM EST
Don't le thte lack of repair parts bother you - the Daewoos are built like a Mack truck. I sold my AR100 (preban k2) for $1200 a short while back and felt that I should have kept it, excepth that I was financing an AR project at the time. Best of both worlds AR with an AK gas piston system. Great shooters. BTW the K1 parts are not always interchangeable with the K2 parts so beware when buying internals if you get to that point.
Link Posted: 4/30/2003 9:16:55 AM EST
I purchased a new K2 back in 1985. It has the folding plastic stock. It came in a box with all the manuals and field equipment like it was being issued to someone in the military. Is this unusuall?
Link Posted: 4/30/2003 11:01:07 AM EST
Moons, was it in Korean? *WARNING : Korean is very different from Chinese and Japanese letters K series gun galore BTW here is new SMG called K-7 [IMG]http://boot.co.kr/wonhor_home/newhome/rifle/korea/img/k-7.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://boot.co.kr/wonhor_home/newhome/rifle/korea/img/k-3.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://boot.co.kr/wonhor_home/newhome/rifle/korea/img/k2-full.jpg[/IMG] K2 in action [IMG]http://boot.co.kr/wonhor_home/newhome/rifle/korea/img/korea_main.jpg[/IMG]
Link Posted: 4/30/2003 6:37:27 PM EST
That suppressed subgun is awesome!
Link Posted: 4/30/2003 8:32:57 PM EST
Our K2/Max-II was bought new in 1986 ($300 range). The gas piston broke about a decade later. NO parts were easily available then (pre-internet). A local welder put it back together, adding a little more metal around to beef it up where it broke. It's never had a problem since. If you get by a Daewoo car dealer, go to the parts dept. and get the T-shirt that says their ad jingle, "This is MY Daewoo!" I'll have to scan some newspaper pictures I have of when that N.Korean submarine crashed ashore in S.Korea a few years back. Lots of soldiers searching the hills with really short .223 Daewoos, along the lines of the Micro-Galil or AKS-47U Krinkov. Sweet!
Link Posted: 5/1/2003 1:53:36 AM EST
So, the K1A1 has the same type of gas system as an AR?No gas piston?These really caught my attention because of how small and compact they are.For those that own them, are they reliable?
Link Posted: 5/1/2003 3:58:14 AM EST
Mine is as reliable as any AR or AK I have ever seen. Never one fail to feed or function. It is pictured on the first page if you are looking for one to buy, this one is as new. Cruizer
Link Posted: 5/1/2003 10:09:43 AM EST
Hey Fokket123, it was written in english, with lots of pictures. This has been one of the most reliable guns I have ever owned. In fact, it looks just like the third one down in the photos you show in the message. A local gun dealer had offered me $2000 for it sight unseen. Is there something special about this gun?
Link Posted: 5/1/2003 10:24:23 AM EST
Dear Moons, the third one is the one's that being issued as standard army rifle.. it sight unseen<-- whadaya mean by that? (me english not so good) bye
Link Posted: 5/1/2003 10:27:22 AM EST
BTW the rumour is that the export ones have 100X better Quality Control.
Link Posted: 5/1/2003 7:29:26 PM EST
'sight unseen' meaning all I did was describe the gun to him and he then made the offer. He never actually saw the gun, thus sight unseen. This got me wondering, since he owns a gun shop, if he knew something particular to the K2 that made him offer to buy it.
Link Posted: 5/1/2003 11:43:59 PM EST
The K1s issued to Korean military isn't that long. the barrell got longer due to law in US the original K1 has XM177 style flash hider just next to the ironsight
Link Posted: 5/2/2003 9:50:09 AM EST
more pics... this is from the Korean FM [IMG]http://www.redcellteam.com/spboard/id/jangbi/files/k2.jpg[/IMG]
Link Posted: 5/2/2003 10:06:55 AM EST
If any of you guys are looking for a Daewoo let me know. I am in a cash bind and need to sell mine. cruizer
Link Posted: 5/9/2003 9:59:05 AM EST
There is a Daewoo users' group on Yahoo. It's geared more toward DR-200/DR-300's, but all Daewoo fans are welcome. It's a great place to ask questions from other Daewoo owners. Joe Daewoo_rifles@yahoo.com
Link Posted: 5/9/2003 10:08:00 AM EST
VTDefender, Any idea who the proud owner of that FAL-Woo is? I'd like to ask him a question or two about the mods. Joe Daewoo_rifles@yahoo.com
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