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Posted: 3/25/2006 7:01:56 PM EDT
It has been awile since I have bought lowers.

What companies are making milled lowers right now?
Link Posted: 3/25/2006 7:44:16 PM EDT
I don't know a whole lot about the manufacturing of receivers but all the receivers I know of are all forged. But I also have no clue what milling is so my post probably makes zero sense and I am just wasting everyones time
Link Posted: 3/25/2006 9:22:08 PM EDT

Originally Posted By WMHM4:
I don't know a whole lot about the manufacturing of receivers but all the receivers I know of are all forged. But I also have no clue what milling is so my post probably makes zero sense and I am just wasting everyones time




Link Posted: 3/25/2006 9:29:30 PM EDT
SunDevil lowers are billet aluminum lowers. IMO the best lower made at present. Very, very clean lines, low shelf and there's no teflon on it in case you'd like to finish it with Norrell's or other such finish.

TS
Link Posted: 3/25/2006 9:58:02 PM EDT

Originally Posted By NattyLite:
It has been awile since I have bought lowers.

What companies are making milled lowers right now?



Socom Diamond
JP CTR-02
Sun Devil

a few more I'm sure... those are the only ones I can think of though...
Link Posted: 3/26/2006 6:03:54 AM EDT
Wait, wait ,wait...do you mean BILLET???? All recievers are milled, even cast ones are finish milled....
Link Posted: 3/26/2006 8:08:24 AM EDT

Originally Posted By desertmoon:
Wait, wait ,wait...do you mean BILLET???? All recievers are milled, even cast ones are finish milled....




True, but most people understand milled vs. forged... but I guess not you
Link Posted: 3/26/2006 11:16:53 AM EDT
All AR receivers are Milled

Your thinking of lowers milled from Billet
Most are Milled from forgings
and some low end one are milled from castings.
Link Posted: 3/26/2006 12:35:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/26/2006 12:36:12 PM EDT by JosephR]

Originally Posted By JBowles:
All AR receivers are Milled

Your
You're thinking of lowers milled from Billet
Most are Milled from forgings
and some low end ones are milled from castings.



Link Posted: 3/26/2006 1:57:43 PM EDT

Originally Posted By xenophobe:

Socom Diamond
JP CTR-02
Sun Devil

a few more I'm sure... those are the only ones I can think of though...



Anybody have a links for these?
Link Posted: 3/26/2006 3:40:58 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ThePirate:

Originally Posted By xenophobe:

Socom Diamond
JP CTR-02
Sun Devil

a few more I'm sure... those are the only ones I can think of though...



Anybody have a links for these?



SOCOM is out of business and JP only sells their billet lowers as complete guns.

Link Posted: 3/26/2006 5:19:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/26/2006 5:19:34 PM EDT by TigerStripe]

Originally Posted By ThePirate:

Originally Posted By xenophobe:

Socom Diamond
JP CTR-02
Sun Devil

a few more I'm sure... those are the only ones I can think of though...



Anybody have a links for these?



Sure, here: SunDevil

TS
Link Posted: 3/26/2006 8:10:12 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/26/2006 8:34:39 PM EDT

Originally Posted By TigerStripe:

Originally Posted By ThePirate:

Originally Posted By xenophobe:

Socom Diamond
JP CTR-02
Sun Devil

a few more I'm sure... those are the only ones I can think of though...



Anybody have a links for these?



Sure, here: SunDevil

TS



Thank you TigerStripe!

Thanks to ian187 for the info on the other two as well!
Link Posted: 3/26/2006 8:39:50 PM EDT
Olympic used to have titanium lowers. I would assume those are machined from billet.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 2:16:22 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/27/2006 2:17:20 AM EDT by desertmoon]

Originally Posted By NattyLite:

Originally Posted By desertmoon:
Wait, wait ,wait...do you mean BILLET???? All recievers are milled, even cast ones are finish milled....




True, but most people understand milled vs. forged... but I guess not you



Do you have any idea how utterly STUPID you just made yourself look?

ETA: just wait till a few more people who know what they're talking about pop in.....
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 4:05:48 AM EDT
I already did.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 4:32:25 AM EDT

Originally Posted By NattyLite:

Originally Posted By desertmoon:
Wait, wait ,wait...do you mean BILLET???? All recievers are milled, even cast ones are finish milled....




True, but most people understand milled vs. forged... but I guess not you



Please Expound! I could use a good laugh!
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 8:48:16 AM EDT
WHY would anyone want a lower machined from a billet instead of a forging? Forged lowers start out life as a billet of aluminum that is put into the forging press. Two things are accomplished during the forging process: 1) the general external profile of the receiver is formed 2) and most importantly the grain structure of the aluminum is compressed and made more uniform.

I can understand that the SOCOM billet lowers are neat because of their different external profile, but WHY on earth would you want a lower that has the same lines as a forged lower, but is made from a billet? You're merely getting an aluminum lower with inferior metallurgy when compared to a forged lower.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 9:42:45 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/27/2006 9:45:29 AM EDT by Yojimbo]
I'm also wondering the same thing as JoshNC.

IIRC, the Sun Devil lowers are made from a 6061 billet which is also lower quality than the 7075T6 forgings that are used for most lowers.

I guess if the Sun Devil lowers were $50 each then I might see the value but with the current pricing for SD lowers you will be paying more money for product made of lower quality material.

Why would you want to pay more for a Sun Devil lower than a Stag lower?
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 9:46:57 AM EDT

Originally Posted By desertmoon:

Originally Posted By NattyLite:

Originally Posted By desertmoon:
Wait, wait ,wait...do you mean BILLET???? All recievers are milled, even cast ones are finish milled....




True, but most people understand milled vs. forged... but I guess not you



Do you have any idea how utterly STUPID you just made yourself look?

ETA: just wait till a few more people who know what they're talking about pop in.....





I think of it as:

Milled = Machined

Forged = Forged
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 9:49:13 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Yojimbo:
I'm also wondering the same thing as JoshNC.

IIRC, the Sun Devil lowers are made from a 6061 billet which is also lower quality than the 7075T6 forgings that are used for most lowers.

I guess if the Sun Devil lowers were $50 each then I might see the value but with the current pricing for SD lowers you will be paying more money for product made of lower quality material.

Why would you want to pay more for a Sun Devil lower than a Stag lower?



Ok so Stag makes the best lower for around $100?
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 9:54:13 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/27/2006 9:56:39 AM EDT by Yojimbo]

Originally Posted By NattyLite:

I think of it as:

Milled = Machined

Forged = Forged





Forged receivers are also machined to their final dimensions...
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 9:55:05 AM EDT

Originally Posted By NattyLite:]

Ok so Stag makes the best lower for around $100?



At this time I would say yes.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 10:16:55 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Yojimbo:



Forged receivers are also machined to their final dimensions...



Exactly. And the only "Dimensional Inconsistencies" would be in non critical areas. The Fire Control group holes are still machined the same way as a Cast, Forged, or Billet receiver.

You're not getting anything over a forged receiver, but the price is competetive, so whatever.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 11:13:33 AM EDT
Hmmm... everybody making an AR reciever besides the AR-180 and clones? That's stamped, but everything else is milled.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 11:29:23 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Yojimbo:

Originally Posted By NattyLite:

I think of it as:

Milled = Machined

Forged = Forged





Forged receivers are also machined to their final dimensions...



Let me join you, Yojimbo.....

Link Posted: 3/27/2006 12:45:05 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Yojimbo:

Originally Posted By NattyLite:

I think of it as:

Milled = Machined

Forged = Forged





Forged receivers are also machined to their final dimensions...



I figured that was obvious and therefore did not need to be stated.
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