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Posted: 10/21/2004 7:45:38 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/21/2004 8:06:28 AM EST by 89grand]
Especially now. Even if it was before the AWB sunset, what kind of idiot would take off a comfortable pistol grip, put this piece of shit on just so you could have a bayonet lug.

Look here.

www.fabten.com/whats_new.htm
Link Posted: 10/21/2004 8:08:13 AM EST
Unfortunately, there are some people who are stuck in states that still have STATE assault weapons bans. They might be able to use this.
Link Posted: 10/21/2004 8:08:20 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/21/2004 9:36:45 AM EST
Maybe they are only allowed to have 1 bullet, and they have to go stab the target. hehe go Barney Fife...
Link Posted: 10/21/2004 12:52:51 PM EST
thats actually a pretty interesting item.....

before teh ban ended, there were guys that did shit similiar to that, but not as good
Link Posted: 10/21/2004 1:23:50 PM EST
Caifornia. Before the fed ban ended, I was thinking about making my own FAB-30.
Link Posted: 10/21/2004 1:41:50 PM EST
Well, there ad in the SGN says "Non-California owners" so I guess this piece of crap is aimed at everybody else. It seems that is supposed to be attractive to people with post-ban rifles that wanted to add a bayonet lug or flash hider. My question was who would want a bayonet lug so bad that they would use what appears to be an extremely uncomfortable grip, if you could even call that weird hunk of metal a grip. The weird thing is that they're still offering it even though there is no ban.
Link Posted: 10/21/2004 2:03:11 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/21/2004 2:04:32 PM EST by Darkest2000]

Originally Posted By 89grand:
Well, there ad in the SGN says "Non-California owners" so I guess this piece of crap is aimed at everybody else. It seems that is supposed to be attractive to people with post-ban rifles that wanted to add a bayonet lug or flash hider. My question was who would want a bayonet lug so bad that they would use what appears to be an extremely uncomfortable grip, if you could even call that weird hunk of metal a grip. The weird thing is that they're still offering it even though there is no ban.



If you actually READ the ad, the "non-california owner" was only in regards to their special pistol grip replacement that will enable you to have another evil feature. Obviously that no longer matters anymore. Otherwise i bet 99% of all FAB10s are sold to California.

FAB10 is the only California legal AR type besides the semi shots.
Link Posted: 10/21/2004 2:14:35 PM EST

Originally Posted By Darkest2000:

Originally Posted By 89grand:
Well, there ad in the SGN says "Non-California owners" so I guess this piece of crap is aimed at everybody else. It seems that is supposed to be attractive to people with post-ban rifles that wanted to add a bayonet lug or flash hider. My question was who would want a bayonet lug so bad that they would use what appears to be an extremely uncomfortable grip, if you could even call that weird hunk of metal a grip. The weird thing is that they're still offering it even though there is no ban.



If you actually READ the ad, the "non-california owner" was only in regards to their special pistol grip replacement that will enable you to have another evil feature. Obviously that no longer matters anymore. Otherwise i bet 99% of all FAB10s are sold to California.

FAB10 is the only California legal AR type besides the semi shots.



Uhhhh...I did READ the ad, you didn't READ my post. I was talking about the stupid assed pistol grip alternative. I understand the Fab10 thing with Kalifornia. I wasn't talking about that.
Link Posted: 10/21/2004 2:33:46 PM EST

Originally Posted By 89grand:
Well, there ad in the SGN says "Non-California owners" so I guess this piece of crap is aimed at everybody else. It seems that is supposed to be attractive to people with post-ban rifles that wanted to add a bayonet lug or flash hider. My question was who would want a bayonet lug so bad that they would use what appears to be an extremely uncomfortable grip, if you could even call that weird hunk of metal a grip. The weird thing is that they're still offering it even though there is no ban.



A telestock would probably be the main reason to switch to this grip.
Link Posted: 10/21/2004 2:40:53 PM EST
Yeah I see what it's purpose is supposed to be, what's weird is without actually feeling this "grip" it seems really awkward and uncomfortable and I can't imagine wanting a tele stock, bayonet or flash hider enough to be stuck with that crap grip. I know they're pointless now. They are still trying to sell them though for some reason.
Link Posted: 10/21/2004 2:59:00 PM EST

Originally Posted By 89grand:

they're pointless now. They are still trying to sell them though for some reason.



For when AZ gets their own Ban ................
Link Posted: 10/21/2004 4:37:23 PM EST
That thing looks really awkward. I know the P90 uses a similar style of grip but it seems a lot more ergonomic than that thing. I'll keep waiting for someone to make a synthetic thumbhole stock that serves the purpose of both the grip and stock. I'd love to see Magpul design one considering what they've done so far with their modular grip concept.
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 10:11:08 AM EST
WTF was that!
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 2:15:26 PM EST
I actually find the idea somewhat attractive, being that you could make an extremely low profile rifle or pistol. Something that with fold down sights could be hidden in a tube but ready for use ASAP.
Has anyone actually handled one?
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 3:31:54 PM EST



I've seen in Shotgun News.
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 3:43:43 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/22/2004 3:44:11 PM EST by garyd]
I got one. The owner sent it to me when he was first starting out. I actually just wanted his fake flash suppressor because I had a pre ban barrel. He got behind, so when I called to see where my order was, he sent me the fake flash suppressor the bayonet lug blocker the collapsable stock blocker and the grip for free. I put the grip on just for the fun of it. Never fired it. It is not as uncomfortable as you might think. Not saying it is comfortable because it was not. But I could not think of a reason why I would want to fire my rifle with it on it. I think it is in my shop somewhere.
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 7:56:54 PM EST
It makes me wonder why a pistol grip on a rifle is so evil. How in the world did some politician come to the notion that a combination of a pistol grip, collapsable stock, flash hider and bayo lug make a rifle so much more dangerous then a rifle without these features. If you ask me it is a whole lot safer to shoot a rifle with a pistol grip then to use some POS grip made out of a piece of glorified 1/4" dowel rod, yet the BATF approves it.
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 9:53:42 PM EST
Thats like seeing someone with their brain hanging out of thier skull, it just kind of makes you sick to your stomach.
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 9:58:29 PM EST
Z-M Weapons used to sell something like that.
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 10:01:14 PM EST
I think it's
Link Posted: 10/23/2004 4:05:39 AM EST

Originally Posted By 89grand:
I think it's rebelrockrunners.org/andrew/mbp/rainbow.gif



Sorry, but I think you may have to translate that for the rest of the guys here.

They are quite conservative and may have a whole different idea about which 'rainbow coalition' you are alluding to.

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