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Posted: 8/14/2008 6:27:21 PM EDT
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My middy is gradually coming together. I'd like to know what y'all recommend for a stock when it comes to balancing the rifle? I have a VLTOR on my M4-gery and it's nice. I really like the looks of the CTR, but I can't help but think it's too light for a 16" middy and would make it seem nose heavy. What other recommendations would you have? |
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I like my 6 position collapsible just fine. I wish I had a CTR though.
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CTR or SOPMOD. I have SOPMODs on both of my carbines; one is an M4gery the other is a mid-length. Place a vertical fore grip on the handguards or rails. It will definitely help with balance.
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CTR all the way. I does not make a midlength nose heavy, IMO. I have one on my 20" AR, and it's not nose heavy, either.
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I have a CTR on my gov profile 14.5" middy and it's fine.
I could have probably done fine with a CAR stock (lighter and cheaper). That's what's going on my next build, anyway. ETA: I used to run an old M16A1 (like the one posted above) on my middy, but things seem much faster (more handy) with the CTR. |
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Personally, I like CTRs or SOPMODs for carbines, SOPMODs or M93/UBR for middys and SOPMOD or UBR or A2 for anything longer then 18"
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I have the ACE ARFX on my Middy as well. For me, it's the perfect length and balance. I love it. |
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I've used an A1 and a ACE adjustable on my midlength, both feel great. I prefer the A1.
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+1 - For balance, both visually and weight wise, I found an A1 length stock is the best choice for a 16" middy. If I had to or needed to have a collapsible stock, it would be with a UBR because of its added weight and fixed stock like consistent cheek weld. I do love the CTR stock and have a couple of them but not for a 16" middy. Makes the weapon way too out of balance (front heavy) for my tastes. I'll take an 8lb balanced rifle over a 7-7.5lb front heavy rifle any day. |
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I agree about the emod. I prefer those to the CTR, which I tend to run on my 16" and 14.5" pinned carbines.
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I have the same stock on my 24" SUM rifle, i love it. So much that I got a stubby version for my next build. My middy wears a M93A2 stock in OD |
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Another vote for the ACE ARFX. Who cares what's popular or not. Most retractable stocks sold are purchased for their "tacti-cool" feature, nothing else.
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They look good, and also balance good. +1. |
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Other than the FH, that is exactly how I want my next build to be. Very nice. |
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Who makes A1 stocks nowadays? Is CavArms the only one? |
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Sherluk has complete A1 buttstocks. (They're a listed source in the Retro Forum)
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Very helpful for the OP i'm sure. It all depends upon whether you want a fixed or collapsable and your shooting style. What length of pull are you looking for? I think the Vltor Emod is a great stock for just about any AR out there. Edit to add- I wish Magpul still made the 93, haven't handled a UBR yet but the 93 was/is my favorite for ANY configuration. |
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I like the CTR, but I really like the balance of the UBR on my 16" midlength. Even though its heavier, it just feels better to me.
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I may have to check out the Emod. I have a "regular" VLTOR on my LMT M4gery and it's nice and solid. FWIW, I do want a collapsable stock, and I normally shoot NTCH. |
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I don't know if anyone other than Cav Arms is currently making A1 stocks, but you will get a quality piece from Cav and you have your pick of colors |
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My experience has shown me the exact same thing. I run an E-mod on my mid-length as well and it's the perfect balance for me. |
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How is your middy set up? |
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Sounds like an Emod would be perfect. Do I see one in your future...... |
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Had a CTR, tried an A2 and never went back. Just seems to balance a little bit better for me, personally. Especially after the railed FF went on. |
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Not a fan of the A2. I thought I read somewhere that the DD middy lite rail makes it lighter than if I had "regular" HG's. |
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I'd love to put UBRs on my ARs but hell for the cost of a few of those your in "New Gun" territory...makes it hard for me. Personally, I'd go to AIM surplus and get a few of their CMMG mil spec buffer assemblies and a couple of Magpul MOEs. Nice setup and won't break the bank.
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It all depends on your barrel, rails and accessories you have on your rifle.
I got a CMMG LW with DD Lite 9. Tried the UBR on it and it felt rear heavy. Shouldnt be a major problem though. But going to try a CTR on it and see if i like it better. |
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I'm a big fan of the Sully stock, they're a good compromise between a collapsible stock and a the A1 stock imo.
I plan on getting one for a KISS build I'm hoping to make in the near future. |
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How much does the Sully stock weigh? I've always been intrigued by them.
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According to this site...... groups.msn.com/TheMarylandAR15ShootersSite/stocks.msnw The Sully stock weighs 17.75oz which does not include receiver extension nor CAR buffer which adds 8oz. The stock also comes with an optional extension which weighs 7oz. |
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+1 on the EMod. Used one on my 16" BCM midlength w/ troy rail and a light/vfg setup and she balances just right... |
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