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Posted: 9/14/2004 4:25:58 PM EST
The one that has the solid bottom or the old style?

Thanks.

TG
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 6:36:00 PM EST
What,no one has a answer?

TG
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 6:37:18 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 6:51:06 PM EST
I just bought the new one today, to be permanently affixed to an LMT upper I got from MSTN.
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 8:48:42 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/14/2004 9:04:44 PM EST by gargamel]
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Link Posted: 9/15/2004 3:39:15 AM EST

Originally Posted By MSTN:
THE NEW ONE, WITHOUT QUESTION.

WES



Why do you think the new one is best?


Thanks for the replies.

TG
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 3:52:28 AM EST

Originally Posted By TexasGunman:

Originally Posted By MSTN:
THE NEW ONE, WITHOUT QUESTION.

WES



Why do you think the new one is best?


Thanks for the replies.

TG



Because it just is.
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 4:22:59 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/15/2004 4:23:50 AM EST by HKPDW]
The "new" one acts as a muzzle brake as well as a flash hider...

It's brake feature actually works pretty well too. Not quite as well as my JP Ent recoil eliminator, but it does cut the felt recoil and muzzle rise in half...

...........
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 4:25:42 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/15/2004 4:28:39 AM EST by TexasGunman]
Im new to flash hiders, right now I have one mounted on my M4 clone.
It is the one bushmaster offers on their web site,it doesnt have the rough cut front.

I've seen the new ones, that doesnt have the rough cut front,but also has the solid A2 like bottom.

Im also considering buying it,but, didnt want to buy it, if is wasnt as good as the old style.

I have a 14 1/2" barrel,so I have to go with one to bring it to 16".

TG
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 9:08:38 AM EST
Is the "new" one produced by Bushmaster, or ONLY by YHM?

Thanx.
Sammy
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 9:15:10 AM EST
Not to hijack the thread, but how does the new Phantom compare to the Vortex? I realize the vortex doesn't have a brake on the bottom but I can't decide between the two.
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 2:33:47 PM EST

Originally Posted By selfishselfless:
Is the "new" one produced by Bushmaster, or ONLY by YHM?

Thanx.
Sammy



Yankee hill machine (www.yhm.net) makes/produces/distributes a few models exclusively to Bushmaster.

Check out the site, and you'll see which ones are for Bushmaster only.
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 2:37:53 PM EST
I just ordered a new one from BrightFlashlights. $25 delivered.

www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=2&f=142&t=144049
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 3:28:46 PM EST

Originally Posted By brushdog:
I just ordered a new one from BrightFlashlights. $25 delivered.

www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=2&f=142&t=144049



I just sent fund to him for a YHM 5C1, now I have a slightly used Bushmaster Phantom for sale.

Just hope timing this new one,isnt a problem ,by using the crush washer that comes with it.

TG
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 3:33:04 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 3:53:33 PM EST

Originally Posted By Wolfpack:
I like the Vortex more than the Phantom.



I agree... The Vortex hides 99.9 % of the flash where the phantom i beleive is in the lower 80's?!Here's mine!
http://images.snapfish.com/33%3B84%3C4%3B23232%7Ffp64%3Dot%3E2336%3D9%3B­9%3D686%3DXROQDF%3E2323633%3B55%3B%3A6ot1lsi
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 3:58:16 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 4:23:13 PM EST
I started to get a vortex,but wanted a flash hider that wouldnt get caught up on brush & tree limbs and gear etc.

Here my current sit up.







This is my working gun,spend time out in the field aka ranch gun.

TG

Link Posted: 9/15/2004 6:15:33 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 8:08:13 PM EST
You made the right choice. I'm ordering the new style Phantom whenever they get it back in stock.
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 8:16:46 PM EST
I have the new vortex, the old phantom and the 5C1 Phantom on 14.5 inch barrels. If I ever get a camera out to shoot at night I will get pics.
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 9:36:29 PM EST
I'm still not 100% clear on which Phantom is new and which one is old? Was looking at eagle firearms site and they show both a 5C1 and a 5C2. They claim both have a closed bottom. The 5C2 looks like the older style with the pronged front edge where the 5C1 has a flat front edge. So which is which?
Link Posted: 9/16/2004 2:55:46 AM EST

Originally Posted By Redhook:
I'm still not 100% clear on which Phantom is new and which one is old? Was looking at eagle firearms site and they show both a 5C1 and a 5C2. They claim both have a closed bottom. The 5C2 looks like the older style with the pronged front edge where the 5C1 has a flat front edge. So which is which?



Both of the ones you mention is new, thee old phantom doesnt have a solid A2 like bottom.

TG
Link Posted: 9/17/2004 9:02:46 PM EST

Originally Posted By TexasGunman:
I started to get a vortex,but wanted a flash hider that wouldnt get caught up on brush & tree limbs and gear etc.

Here my current sit up.

www.metrophotohost.com/gallery_0010/gallery_albums/TexasGunman/MVC_018F.jpg



www.metrophotohost.com/gallery_0010/gallery_albums/TexasGunman/MVC_019F.jpg

This is my working gun,spend time out in the field aka ranch gun.

TG

TG that is a beautiful carbine! What kind of scope mount is that if I might ask?


Link Posted: 9/17/2004 10:14:12 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/17/2004 10:16:21 PM EST by selfishselfless]
From what I saw on Bushmaster's website, the ones they offer are BOTH made by YHM.

Thanx.
Sammy


Originally Posted By Brettb19:

Originally Posted By selfishselfless:
Is the "new" one produced by Bushmaster, or ONLY by YHM?

Thanx.
Sammy



Yankee hill machine (www.yhm.net) makes/produces/distributes a few models exclusively to Bushmaster.

Check out the site, and you'll see which ones are for Bushmaster only.

Link Posted: 9/17/2004 10:23:26 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/17/2004 10:23:43 PM EST by Lumpy196]
Link Posted: 9/18/2004 3:45:42 AM EST
Link Posted: 9/18/2004 5:06:24 AM EST
Thanks for the replies, hopefully this first of this coming week,my new Phantom will be here.

The Aimpoint mount is a tilt forward knight designed mount,so far it has proved to be very durable and holds it zero perfectly.

TG

Link Posted: 9/18/2004 12:48:50 PM EST
isn't there a ring that can be placed over the front of the vortex so you DON'T have to worry about brush getting caught in the tines? isn't that what the machined channel is for?

Link Posted: 9/18/2004 1:12:09 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/18/2004 1:14:54 PM EST

Originally Posted By HKPDW:
The "new" one acts as a muzzle brake as well as a flash hider...

It's brake feature actually works pretty well too. Not quite as well as my JP Ent recoil eliminator, but it does cut the felt recoil and muzzle rise in half...

...........



Actually it doesn't act as a muzzle brake at all. With the closed bottom it may have a slight compensating effect but it is not noticeable in the least bit. I noticed no difference other than serious flash suppression between my rifle with a 5C1 and my naked post ban barrel when shot side by side.
Link Posted: 9/18/2004 1:21:26 PM EST

Originally Posted By Lumpy196:

Originally Posted By JosephR:
isn't there a ring that can be placed over the front of the vortex so you DON'T have to worry about brush getting caught in the tines? isn't that what the machined channel is for?




Not on the new ones, and the old ones had very sharp edged at the front of the prongs.

Got it stuck on a curtain once at a very inopportune time...



OUCH! I hope that there was no wife involved!!
Link Posted: 9/18/2004 1:22:18 PM EST
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