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Posted: 9/14/2004 5:25:58 PM EDT
The one that has the solid bottom or the old style?
Thanks. TG 
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Posted: 9/14/2004 7:36:00 PM EDT
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What,no one has a answer?
TG 
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Posted: 9/14/2004 7:37:18 PM EDT
[#2]
THE NEW ONE, WITHOUT QUESTION.
WES |
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Posted: 9/14/2004 7:51:06 PM EDT
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I just bought the new one today, to be permanently affixed to an LMT upper I got from MSTN.
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Posted: 9/14/2004 9:48:42 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/15/2004 4:39:15 AM EDT
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Why do you think the new one is best? Thanks for the replies.  TG |
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Posted: 9/15/2004 4:52:28 AM EDT
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Because it just is.
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Posted: 9/15/2004 5:22:59 AM EDT
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The "new" one acts as a muzzle brake as well as a flash hider...
It's brake feature actually works pretty well too. Not quite as well as my JP Ent recoil eliminator, but it does cut the felt recoil and muzzle rise in half...  ...........
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Posted: 9/15/2004 5:25:42 AM EDT
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Im new to flash hiders, right now I have one mounted on my M4 clone.
It is the one bushmaster offers on their web site,it doesnt have the rough cut front. I've seen the new ones, that doesnt have the rough cut front,but also has the solid A2 like bottom. Im also considering buying it,but, didnt want to buy it, if is wasnt as good as the old style. I have a 14 1/2" barrel,so I have to go with one to bring it to 16". TG 
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Posted: 9/15/2004 10:08:38 AM EDT
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Is the "new" one produced by Bushmaster, or ONLY by YHM?
Thanx. Sammy |
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Posted: 9/15/2004 10:15:10 AM EDT
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Not to hijack the thread, but how does the new Phantom compare to the Vortex? I realize the vortex doesn't have a brake on the bottom but I can't decide between the two.
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Posted: 9/15/2004 3:33:47 PM EDT
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Yankee hill machine (www.yhm.net) makes/produces/distributes a few models exclusively to Bushmaster. Check out the site, and you'll see which ones are for Bushmaster only. |
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Posted: 9/15/2004 3:37:53 PM EDT
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I just ordered a new one from BrightFlashlights. $25 delivered.
www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=2&f=142&t=144049 |
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Posted: 9/15/2004 4:28:46 PM EDT
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I just sent fund to him for a YHM 5C1, now I have a slightly used Bushmaster Phantom for sale. Just hope timing this new one,isnt a problem ,by using the crush washer that comes with it. TG 
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Posted: 9/15/2004 4:33:04 PM EDT
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I like the Vortex more than the Phantom.
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Posted: 9/15/2004 4:53:33 PM EDT
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I agree... The Vortex hides 99.9 % of the flash where the phantom i beleive is in the lower 80's?!Here's mine! http://images.snapfish.com/33%3B84%3C4%3B23232%7Ffp64%3Dot%3E2336%3D9%3B9%3D686%3DXROQDF%3E2323633%3B55%3B%3A6ot1lsi |
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Posted: 9/15/2004 4:58:16 PM EDT
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Nice gun! 
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Posted: 9/15/2004 5:23:13 PM EDT
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I started to get a vortex,but wanted a flash hider that wouldnt get caught up on brush & tree limbs and gear etc.
Here my current sit up.   This is my working gun,spend time out in the field aka ranch gun. TG |
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Posted: 9/15/2004 7:15:33 PM EDT
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You want one w/ a closed bottom, trust me. Even if you think you'll NEVER shoot prone, if for some reason you have to, it sucks ass having dirt fly all over the place. The blast will even destroy sand bags, etc. Closed bottom. |
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Posted: 9/15/2004 9:08:13 PM EDT
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You made the right choice. I'm ordering the new style Phantom whenever they get it back in stock.
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Posted: 9/15/2004 9:16:46 PM EDT
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I have the new vortex, the old phantom and the 5C1 Phantom on 14.5 inch barrels. If I ever get a camera out to shoot at night I will get pics.
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Posted: 9/15/2004 10:36:29 PM EDT
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I'm still not 100% clear on which Phantom is new and which one is old? Was looking at eagle firearms site and they show both a 5C1 and a 5C2. They claim both have a closed bottom. The 5C2 looks like the older style with the pronged front edge where the 5C1 has a flat front edge. So which is which?
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Posted: 9/16/2004 3:55:46 AM EDT
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Both of the ones you mention is new, thee old phantom doesnt have a solid A2 like bottom. TG |
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Posted: 9/17/2004 10:02:46 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/17/2004 11:14:12 PM EDT
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From what I saw on Bushmaster's website, the ones they offer are BOTH made by YHM.
Thanx. Sammy
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Posted: 9/17/2004 11:23:26 PM EDT
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I like swimming against the tide. The Vortex may be THE most efficient, but I dont like prongs on the end of my barrel.
Id go with the closed bottom Phantom. |
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Posted: 9/18/2004 4:45:42 AM EDT
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I got two of the new style closed bottom smooth front Phantoms, and I have to say I REALLY like them.
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Posted: 9/18/2004 6:06:24 AM EDT
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Thanks for the replies, hopefully this first of this coming week,my new Phantom will be here.
The Aimpoint mount is a tilt forward knight designed mount,so far it has proved to be very durable and holds it zero perfectly. TG |
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Posted: 9/18/2004 1:48:50 PM EDT
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isn't there a ring that can be placed over the front of the vortex so you DON'T have to worry about brush getting caught in the tines? isn't that what the machined channel is for?
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Posted: 9/18/2004 2:12:09 PM EDT
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Not on the new ones, and the old ones had very sharp edged at the front of the prongs. Got it stuck on a curtain once at a very inopportune time... |
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Posted: 9/18/2004 2:14:54 PM EDT
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Actually it doesn't act as a muzzle brake at all. With the closed bottom it may have a slight compensating effect but it is not noticeable in the least bit. I noticed no difference other than serious flash suppression between my rifle with a 5C1 and my naked post ban barrel when shot side by side. |
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Posted: 9/18/2004 2:21:26 PM EDT
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OUCH! I hope that there was no wife involved!! |
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Posted: 9/18/2004 2:22:18 PM EDT
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+1. When I tested the prototypes against the other makes that was one thing we looked for. I saw nothing useful there. Theoretically there should be some compensation but I couldn't see it from behind the rifle. There is so little recoil on an AR that brakes for same must be very efficient to work. An open ended design is not an efficient one from the standpoint of recoil (muzzle jump) reduction. |
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