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Posted: 9/26/2004 8:53:19 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/26/2004 8:53:57 AM EST by DasPferd]
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 8:56:03 AM EST
If the optic fails the Iron sight is seconds from being back in use
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 8:56:35 AM EST
tying not to lose the carry handle that was issued. I've seen it on the left side rail as well
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 8:56:37 AM EST
he had to take it off to mount the optic...
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 8:57:13 AM EST
To each his own, that's part of the beauty of the modular nature of the AR.
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 8:57:16 AM EST
Storage for later, as stated above.
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 8:58:32 AM EST
Perhaps he's a crewmember on some armored vehicle, and the handle allows a fast grab for a stowed weapon. Other than that, I see no use for the configuration.
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 9:04:18 AM EST
It's for times when he has to shoot upside down.
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 9:05:47 AM EST
Maybe that rail gets damn warm when shooting and there it keeps him from getting burned?? Obviously he isn't f*ckn around!
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 9:26:19 AM EST
Storage for later, possibly improv VFG as well...
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 9:46:48 AM EST
RF Carry Handle gotta go somewhere.
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 10:10:16 AM EST

Originally Posted By tumbleweed:
Perhaps he's a crewmember on some armored vehicle, and the handle allows a fast grab for a stowed weapon. Other than that, I see no use for the configuration.


He's definately a vehicle crewman, he's wearing a CVC.
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 10:17:56 AM EST

Originally Posted By Stryfe:

Originally Posted By tumbleweed:
Perhaps he's a crewmember on some armored vehicle, and the handle allows a fast grab for a stowed weapon. Other than that, I see no use for the configuration.


He's definately a vehicle crewman, he's wearing a CVC.



Looks like a M1A2 TC, judging by the hatch behind his head, and the non-ring-mounted M2HB in front...

I can't think of another US vehicle that has a 50cal that's not ring-mounted, mounted in front of a hatch...
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 10:23:52 AM EST
they always said have 2 sights for your rifle including a backup; they did not say WHERE to put it
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 10:24:36 AM EST
DUPE!
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 11:03:37 AM EST
FWIW, I've seen a number of pics of US SOFs in A-stan that mounted their carry handles on the left side of the KAC RASs...

Will
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 11:16:05 AM EST
He is trying to accomplish death to the bad guys
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 11:21:37 AM EST

Originally Posted By FALARAK:
DUPE!



+1
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 11:32:36 AM EST
Some units have some pretty stupid rules, when I was over in Afghanistan some company higher ups wanted their guys who were using CCO's to keep their carry handle somewhere on the weapon just so it wouldn't get misplaced, lost, stolen or whatever.
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 11:45:52 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/26/2004 11:47:07 AM EST by mudphish]
Thats either a bottle opener or a new and not so improved mil spec biPod.
The big question is why is he posing with the little weapon when there is a forest clearer to his left?
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 11:49:12 AM EST
Thats not a US Soldier thats a member of the IDF isnt it?
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 11:51:57 AM EST
the same thing this guy is trying to accomplish.



-Tyler
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 11:58:00 AM EST
There's a lot of units that have an SOP for the carrying handle to remain on the weapon. Some even want it attached to the RAS as well as dummy corded on.
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 12:17:39 PM EST
this is a little off topic but in both pictures show the ejection port cover is close.. i assume this is to keep the dust out of the action. is this standard practice for the millitary. or just some of these guys have more common sense then others? ive notice this is in many pictures.
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 12:40:55 PM EST

Originally Posted By shmoe01:
this is a little off topic but in both pictures show the ejection port cover is close.. i assume this is to keep the dust out of the action. is this standard practice for the millitary. or just some of these guys have more common sense then others? ive notice this is in many pictures.



It is both standard and common sense.
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 12:42:43 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/26/2004 12:42:56 PM EST by warriorsociologist]
The 'Corps taught me to *always* close it after firing... It helps to keep the dust out.
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 12:46:16 PM EST

Originally Posted By mudphish:
Thats either a bottle opener or a new and not so improved mil spec biPod.
The big question is why is he posing with the little weapon when there is a forest clearer to his left?


That weapon can't depress far enough to defend the tank at close ranges, and it's not as accurate as the scoped rifle for single targets. We also must remember that he is there and knows what he is trying to do, and we only have a small picture of his world.
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 12:51:53 PM EST

Thats not a US Soldier thats a member of the IDF isnt it?



It's US. look on his vest for his Rank (SSG). with a Newer CVC Helmet.
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 1:26:08 PM EST

Looks like a M1A2 TC, judging by the hatch behind his head, and the non-ring-mounted M2HB in front...

I can't think of another US vehicle that has a 50cal that's not ring-mounted, mounted in front of a hatch...

what about an M-88?
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 1:45:22 PM EST
I started keeping my LMT rear sight there, thanks to this picture.
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 2:08:06 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/26/2004 2:08:34 PM EST by CAAAwarfighter]

Originally Posted By Stryfe:

Originally Posted By mudphish:
Thats either a bottle opener or a new and not so improved mil spec biPod.
The big question is why is he posing with the little weapon when there is a forest clearer to his left?


That weapon can't depress far enough to defend the tank at close ranges, and it's not as accurate as the scoped rifle for single targets. We also must remember that he is there and knows what he is trying to do, and we only have a small picture of his world.



I think in a crowded MOUT situation with all the worlds Press and liberals looking on an M-4 might have to be used.
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 2:18:16 PM EST

Originally Posted By centermass181:
Looks like a M1A2 TC, judging by the hatch behind his head, and the non-ring-mounted M2HB in front...

I can't think of another US vehicle that has a 50cal that's not ring-mounted, mounted in front of a hatch...

what about an M-88?


Or M113 except that I know the 113 has a round hatch, and IIRC so does the 88. The M1 commanders hatch has always had a distinctive shape.
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 3:48:36 PM EST
Whats this soldier trying to accomplish?

to keep from loosing the handle but to be honest I'd be using the BIG gun next to him
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 3:50:14 PM EST
Dude proly lost one and then found it on his paycheck. When I was in if you lost it you bought it.
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 6:58:36 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/26/2004 7:00:30 PM EST by brewsky101]
Nabisco D*ng
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 7:13:33 PM EST

Originally Posted By DanishM1Garand:
Dude proly lost one and then found it on his paycheck. When I was in if you lost it you bought it.


There was a thread about mags once that claimed if it was lost in combat, that was OK (no charge).
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 7:14:21 PM EST

Originally Posted By DanishM1Garand:
Dude proly lost one and then found it on his paycheck. When I was in if you lost it you bought it.



So what happens when a pilot has to punch out of his F-18 during a training mission?

"You know, you signed for that airplane..."
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 7:18:35 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/27/2004 3:57:10 AM EST by A_Free_Man]
He is trying to accomplish death to the bad guys

You betchum, Red Ryder!

Also, the handle being ON the weapon, you know that YOUR carry handle is the right one that goes to YOUR weapon. And it is sighted in for that weapon. No "I left it in my other suit."

"Is this my carry handle or yours?"

"Hell, I don't know, they all look the same to me. Maybe it's his?"

Link Posted: 9/26/2004 7:58:16 PM EST
I figured he was trying to fiugre out how to hold the weapon properly with his carry handle in that position.
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 9:06:37 PM EST

Originally Posted By MTNmyMag:
Thats not a US Soldier thats a member of the IDF isnt it?



Not unless they have adopted our rank insignias, check out the center of his vest.

What I want to know is what kind of rail system is on the rifle? It looks like a Surefire M-73 to me.
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 9:23:44 PM EST
1) It's on the rifle because anyone that's been in the Army knows they don't want to pay for shit when they rotate back. If it's on the weapon, it won't get lost.

2) It's on the bottom because he has to climb in and out of that hatch. On the side might be more handy to clear the HG's, but on the bottom is more compact overall because you already have the mag sticking out down there, so it isn't adding to the size. With it on the side, it would end up banging on the hatch rim sooner or later.

3) He's a tanker, and doesn't exactly use the M4 as his primary, so if he keeps it all together, it's all in one package and is easier to deal with.

4) He's using an M4 because he decided it was the thing to use at the time. I can think of a dozen reasons to use the M4 over the M2HB. Since he's the guy using the weapon, and he chose it, that's good eonugh for me. I don't second guess the guy on the ground.

Ross
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 9:46:18 PM EST

Originally Posted By FishKepr:

Originally Posted By DanishM1Garand:
Dude proly lost one and then found it on his paycheck. When I was in if you lost it you bought it.



So what happens when a pilot has to punch out of his F-18 during a training mission?

"You know, you signed for that airplane..."


OUCH!
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 10:23:44 PM EST

Originally Posted By Stryfe:

Originally Posted By centermass181:
Looks like a M1A2 TC, judging by the hatch behind his head, and the non-ring-mounted M2HB in front...

I can't think of another US vehicle that has a 50cal that's not ring-mounted, mounted in front of a hatch...

what about an M-88?


Or M113 except that I know the 113 has a round hatch, and IIRC so does the 88. The M1 commanders hatch has always had a distinctive shape.



And there are no M113s in Iraq, IIRC...
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 11:02:45 PM EST

Originally Posted By wayne53:
the same thing this guy is trying to accomplish.

premium.uploadit.org/tylerwayne/usmc186_001.jpg

-Tyler



i wanna know why he is holding it by the mag well when he has a grip 3 inches away?
Link Posted: 9/27/2004 6:43:44 AM EST
And why he is going to get a nice smack on his pinky when he fires!
Link Posted: 9/27/2004 7:29:26 AM EST
Guys, you haven't heard this yet?? Its a HFG - horiziontal foregrip. Its the latest, used by all the hi-speed operators and contractors. More compact than an VFG and provides a secondary sighting system for the time when you are shooting upsidedown......
Link Posted: 9/27/2004 8:10:27 AM EST
Looks to me like he is trying to KILL the enemy. I also assume he could not care less about a bunch of guys on the internet critiquing his chioce in gear or eqiupment.
Link Posted: 9/27/2004 8:22:59 AM EST

Originally Posted By Dave_A:

Originally Posted By Stryfe:

Originally Posted By centermass181:
Looks like a M1A2 TC, judging by the hatch behind his head, and the non-ring-mounted M2HB in front...

I can't think of another US vehicle that has a 50cal that's not ring-mounted, mounted in front of a hatch...

what about an M-88?


Or M113 except that I know the 113 has a round hatch, and IIRC so does the 88. The M1 commanders hatch has always had a distinctive shape.



And there are no M113s in Iraq, IIRC...



Someone lied to you, there are a ton of 113's over there, unless they brought them back since I came home (which I doubt)
Link Posted: 9/27/2004 8:45:12 AM EST
Great idea... He just fucked some company out of a BUIS purchase when I drop an optic on my A4.
Link Posted: 9/27/2004 10:57:48 AM EST
Looks alot like an IDF soldier to me.
Link Posted: 9/27/2004 11:55:25 AM EST

Originally Posted By Va_Dinger:
Looks alot like an IDF soldier to me.


That was my first impression.
If you zoom in on his chest, the stripes are there.
He's USGI.
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