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Posted: 9/30/2005 3:55:33 PM EDT
Okay, I've seen it so this it's a no Sh|^^er, I saw a CQB red dot optic (Dr. Optic style) that was mounted above an ACOG on the emergancy BUIS rear sight. Anyone know what it is? How it was mounted etc?


Link Posted: 9/30/2005 4:06:45 PM EDT
Its a $270 Jpoint on a $70 mount
Link Posted: 9/30/2005 4:16:38 PM EDT

Originally Posted By WIgunnut:
Its a $270 Jpoint on a $70 mount



Damn dude! Where are you buying your optics? The Jpoint runs $240 at Midway. (dealer/gunsmith) discount.

Link Posted: 9/30/2005 4:26:33 PM EDT
Just a quick estimate

Pretty close
Link Posted: 9/30/2005 4:33:34 PM EDT
It was a Dr Optic in a DD mount.
Link Posted: 9/30/2005 4:39:26 PM EDT
the rings




one shot

another


Link Posted: 9/30/2005 4:40:40 PM EDT
Did it look like this?

If not I havent a clue..
Link Posted: 10/26/2005 12:05:02 PM EDT

Originally Posted By WIgunnut:
Did it look like this?
i21.photobucket.com/albums/b300/WIgunnut/JPTAJPoints.jpg
If not I havent a clue..



What mount is that?
Link Posted: 10/26/2005 12:38:32 PM EDT

Originally Posted By WIgunnut:
Did it look like this?
i21.photobucket.com/albums/b300/WIgunnut/JPTAJPoints.jpg
If not I havent a clue..



That mount should extend protection over the optic, like a mini EOTech.
Link Posted: 10/26/2005 1:24:22 PM EDT

Originally Posted By buddysblackrifle:




anyone know what the rubber band is around the base of the ACOG?

Looks like the 'bikini strap' without the 'cups'

sorry to hijack, jford.

I have wondered about those top mounts myself and their value.
Link Posted: 10/26/2005 2:08:11 PM EDT
No problem, I like the gun p0rn!

Is see the doc optics, but I see 2 different mounts. One is Daniel Defense, what is the other, the one with "ears"?

How do you align the rings on the ACOG to get the optic straight?
Link Posted: 10/26/2005 2:13:39 PM EDT

Originally Posted By redfisher:

Originally Posted By buddysblackrifle:
tinypic.com/e6d0fa.jpg



anyone know what the rubber band is around the base of the ACOG?

Looks like the 'bikini strap' without the 'cups'

sorry to hijack, jford.

I have wondered about those top mounts myself and their value.



I believe the band is to keep the killFLASH in place.
Link Posted: 10/26/2005 3:12:20 PM EDT
Question, just how durable are those J-points, lets say that you drop your rifle? Can it withstand the drop test?
Link Posted: 10/27/2005 11:00:37 AM EDT
Tag for more info
Link Posted: 10/27/2005 11:16:18 AM EDT
Link Posted: 11/9/2005 3:15:23 PM EDT
What mount is this on the ACOG?


Link Posted: 11/9/2005 3:22:33 PM EDT

Originally Posted By jlford30:
What mount is this on the ACOG?


i21.photobucket.com/albums/b300/WIgunnut/JPTAJPoints.jpg



I believe it is the JP Enterprises mount.
Link Posted: 11/11/2005 1:09:59 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:

Originally Posted By jlford30:
What mount is this on the ACOG?


i21.photobucket.com/albums/b300/WIgunnut/JPTAJPoints.jpg



I believe it is the JP Enterprises mount.


Yes it is, I use the same one. It fits the JPoint or Doctor with minor mods to the mount. It helps reassure me I'm not going to smash up the $300 Doctor. Good stuff.
Link Posted: 11/12/2005 9:56:20 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:

Originally Posted By jlford30:
What mount is this on the ACOG?


i21.photobucket.com/albums/b300/WIgunnut/JPTAJPoints.jpg



I believe it is the JP Enterprises mount.




Unless you are referring to the mount UNDER the AGOG, which I believe is a TA51



Many have them, including Bushmaster and most authorized Trijicon/Trijicon accessory dealers

Link Posted: 11/12/2005 10:29:43 AM EDT

Originally Posted By redfisher:

Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:

Originally Posted By jlford30:
What mount is this on the ACOG?


i21.photobucket.com/albums/b300/WIgunnut/JPTAJPoints.jpg



I believe it is the JP Enterprises mount.




Unless you are referring to the mount UNDER the AGOG, which I believe is a TA51

www.bushmaster.com/shopping/scopes/Images/ta51mnt.jpg

Many have them, including Bushmaster and most authorized Trijicon/Trijicon accessory dealers






+1 the mount underneath the optic is the ta51 and they are much cheaper in the equipment exchange, hell i even have some lying around
Link Posted: 11/12/2005 5:35:25 PM EDT
Didn't KAC make one also?
Link Posted: 11/13/2005 10:29:59 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/13/2005 10:30:33 AM EDT by C4iGrant]
Link Posted: 11/14/2005 9:33:04 AM EDT
Anyone have a preferance for a jp optic or a Doc optic? Why?
Link Posted: 11/15/2005 12:38:43 PM EDT

Originally Posted By jlford30:
Anyone have a preferance for a jp optic or a Doc optic? Why?


You may want to do a search on this question, it's been debated once in a while. I've never used the JPoint but have heard it is a very good optic and more durable than its predecessors (Optima and something else IIRC). That being said, however, the Doctor is only about $60 more and is made of steel and glass unlike the JPoint. I love mine. They'll probably both be fine though.
Link Posted: 11/15/2005 4:03:38 PM EDT
does this only work on the nsn or is it possible to put on a 31F?
Link Posted: 11/15/2005 6:34:15 PM EDT
Link Posted: 11/15/2005 7:01:46 PM EDT
Is any modification needed on the host TA31?

Simon
Link Posted: 11/15/2005 7:02:42 PM EDT
Link Posted: 11/15/2005 8:46:12 PM EDT
I have one of the JP mounts with the side wings for the ACOG (see the pictures above).

Unfortunately, I don't have an ACOG. I really don't need the mount (hint hint).
Link Posted: 11/17/2005 4:40:33 AM EDT
With the TA01/JPoint combo, where does the red dot on the JPoint co-witness with the front sight? Is it way over the front sight (an inch or more)? Anyone have pics?
Link Posted: 11/17/2005 4:57:44 AM EDT
Link Posted: 11/17/2005 5:48:47 AM EDT
Do I get the lower bracket when I order a JP NSN mount or is that charged separately?

Simon
Link Posted: 11/17/2005 7:53:32 AM EDT
Nice, Thanks Grant!
Link Posted: 11/17/2005 8:46:29 AM EDT
Are any shims needed under the JPoint when zeroed at 25 yards?(JPoint on top of NSN, MRP w/14.5)
Link Posted: 11/17/2005 10:09:05 AM EDT
Link Posted: 11/17/2005 10:09:40 AM EDT
Link Posted: 11/17/2005 10:48:47 AM EDT
grant, doe sthe Jpoint/doctor whateveer the heck it is - is there an on off button or are they on when cover is off and of when cover is on?

We should talk.
Link Posted: 11/17/2005 10:58:23 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/17/2005 10:58:42 AM EDT by C4iGrant]
Link Posted: 11/17/2005 11:06:13 AM EDT

Originally Posted By C4iGrant:

Originally Posted By wes1:
Are any shims needed under the JPoint when zeroed at 25 yards?(JPoint on top of NSN, MRP w/14.5)



If you get the Weaver mount, there are shims.



C4



Is there any problem zeroing a JPoint on top of a ACOG at 25 yards?
Link Posted: 11/17/2005 11:10:20 AM EDT
Link Posted: 11/17/2005 11:17:56 AM EDT

Originally Posted By C4iGrant:

Originally Posted By chapperjoe:
grant, doe sthe Jpoint/doctor whateveer the heck it is - is there an on off button or are they on when cover is off and of when cover is on?

We should talk.



Both the JPoint and Dr are ALWAYS on and simply go to sleep when the cover is put on. The full off would be when you take the battery out.


C4



hate to bug you bout a product you don't make but whats the battery life expectancy and can you IM me teh price if i send you a ta01 to pop on a jpoint (you provide) and mount (you provide) for me?
Link Posted: 11/17/2005 11:21:48 AM EDT
Link Posted: 11/17/2005 11:24:11 AM EDT
K I just bought a TAO1 off the EE. I a) don't care wha tit costs anymore, cause I'm dead set on doing this and b) relaly would rather you do it. I have a nasty habit of screwing up easy things, getting angry at inanimate objects, and ruining whatever I'm working on. It's not like you're in Hawqaii or anything, the shiping will be worth it just to have someone whoknows what they're doign do it.
Link Posted: 11/17/2005 11:25:43 AM EDT
Link Posted: 11/17/2005 12:00:38 PM EDT

Originally Posted By C4iGrant:

Battery will last about 1 year under normal shooting conditions. No need to send me your TA01 as it is VERY simply to install the JPoint mount.


C4


C4iGrant, the batt life for the Dr is around 3 years isn't it? I've had mine on for a long time (way over a year) and it doesn't seem to bo going down at all.
Link Posted: 11/17/2005 12:04:01 PM EDT
If everyone in this world treated eachother like Grant does his customers...... man this would be a nice planet.

you rule dude.



I'll post pics when she's done.
Link Posted: 11/17/2005 2:45:04 PM EDT

Originally Posted By chapperjoe:
If everyone in this world treated eachother like Grant does his customers...... man this would be a nice planet.

you rule dude.

www.ar15.com/images/smilies/anim_hail.gif

I'll post pics when she's done.




Gett'er Done!
Link Posted: 11/17/2005 6:12:08 PM EDT
Link Posted: 11/18/2005 4:33:36 AM EDT
Does anyone have any experiences, good or bad, with the ATN “Miniature Red Dot”
ATN Ultra Sight Digital Compact

I can’t say for sure how much bigger it is than the Docter or the JP, but I am guessing it may be a little to big to mount over an ACOG, but I would like to know if anyone has tried it.

I have seen it mounted over a scope, using an ATN Ring Adapter or the ARMS Tactical Ring Rail. I definitely like the idea of being able to go quickly from a high powered scope to a red dot just by lifting my head up a little.

The ATN also seems to have some nice features like being able to choose from 3 different reticle patterns.

The other nice thing is the price, you can get one from Optics Planet right now for $140.00 and that price includes UPS shipping.

It does come with a 2 year warranty, but my big concern would be the durability issue?

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
“Capt Richardson”
Link Posted: 11/18/2005 4:59:07 AM EDT
Link Posted: 11/18/2005 2:08:33 PM EDT
Grant, does the Jpoint have adjustable illumination settings or is it "automatic" like a Reflex? Would there be any washout issues going from dark into light environments? How about using a bright Surefire in pitch black, will the dot washout then?
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