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Posted: 3/4/2006 1:42:48 PM EDT
Can someone please explain this to me? Other than the M193 is like 60 bucks more per 1,000... Thanks guys
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 1:51:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/4/2006 1:53:16 PM EDT by M4Madness]
The M193 is brass-cased and loaded hotter for starters.

Have you read THIS?
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 2:00:29 PM EDT
Wolf M193 is made by Privi Partizan in Serbia(?)
Wolf M193 is loaded to M193 specs (5.56, brass cased, etc) which means it would be good as SHTF ammo.

Wolf .223 is made in Russia.
Wolf .223 is underpowered, causes many guns to short cycle, steel cased, etc and pretty much worthless for anything but plinking.
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 2:13:34 PM EDT
I can see this question is going to come up often.

First to clarify, the steel-cased Wolf ammo that most people are familiar with, and the new Wolf M193, are made in different countries (Russia and Serbia) by different companies. Wolf is only the importer. These loads are similar only to the extent that they are both 5.56mm ammo loaded with 55-grain bullets. Past that, everything is different.

Steel-cased Wolf is somewhat underpowered, dirty, not particularly accurate, not reloadable, and the bullets do not fragment on impact. But it's very inexpensive and appears to be reliable for most people.

M193 was the original US Army specification for M16 ammo, which was used from the Vietnam era right up until NATO standardized on the newer SS109 / M885 round. Many of us still prefer M193 for a number of reasons. Check The AR15.com Ammo Oracle for more info on that!

Wolf M193 is brass-cased, reloadable, full-powered and is advertised as meeting military specifications for M193 ammo. That implies crimped-and-sealed bullets and primers. Also, the bullets appear to fragment on impact (based on the one improvised test I've seen), which is what we usually want and expect from M193 ammo. This stuff is very new, so more testing is wanted to see if it really lives up to its billing. . .

With all that in mind, it makes sense for Serbian Wolf M193 to sell for a higher price than steel-cased Russian Wolf ammo.
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 2:17:01 PM EDT
So basically if im using this for plinking i dont need to waste the extra money on the 193 stuff right?
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 4:27:29 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ti_27:
So basically if im using this for plinking i dont need to waste the extra money on the 193 stuff right?



I wouldn't use (X)M193 ammo for plinking unless I were a wealthy man and had a friend at Federal or Winchester who could get me XM193 or Q3131 before it was shipped off... JMO

TS


Link Posted: 3/4/2006 4:33:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/5/2006 6:40:42 AM EDT by jmart]
About 7 cents and 200-300 fps a round .
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