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Posted: 8/18/2004 6:34:53 PM EST
It seems like there's always somebody on a holy quest to obtain some of the old SA battlepac stuff. And the prices commanded when one does locate a batch are on a par with, or higher than, XM-193 and Q3131A.

The question which springs unbidden to the lips is: Why? It's OK stuff and all. I've gone through about 5,000 rounds and still have a couple of tubs left. But, it's about 80 fps slower than XM-193, a lot less consistent, and I've had about a dozen failures to fire over the course of 5,000 rounds.

It was a great deal for plinking ammo when I bought it several years ago for about $.09/round. But high-grade stuff it ain't.

What's the attraction? What am I missing?

SD
Link Posted: 8/18/2004 6:53:58 PM EST
Cheap M193 clone. If you can't get it cheap (like $.09 round) then look for something else. That was its big attraction, near Q3131A performance with near Wolf prices - AND IT STILL had a brass case.
Link Posted: 8/18/2004 6:56:37 PM EST
Its probably the stigma attached to it. Back when it was available, it was available for cheap, and a lot of people were saying that its great ammo for the price. Fast forward a few years, coupled with dwindling (and now non-existant) supply and internet repeats, many think its "great ammo". That's what I think. The plastic battlepacks were a nice touch, though.
Link Posted: 8/18/2004 11:20:13 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/19/2004 6:29:42 AM EST

Originally Posted By Troy:
Most of the people looking for it still (incorrectly) believe that they're going to find it for the same price they remember paying for it in 2001. The fact is that if you can find it today, most vendors want double those prices, which makes it more expensive than new XM193 or Q3131A, which means you'd be straight STUPID to buy it.

-Troy



+1
Link Posted: 8/19/2004 7:16:33 AM EST

Originally Posted By Forest:
Cheap M193 clone. If you can't get it cheap (like $.09 round) then look for something else. That was its big attraction, near Q3131A performance with near Wolf prices - AND IT STILL had a brass case.



yup
Link Posted: 8/19/2004 1:02:10 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/19/2004 1:03:11 PM EST by AndrewB]
I agree. I bought 1000 rounds of it back in '02 for my new AR-180B. It was okay stuff, it wasn't terribly accurate and I did have an under-powered round fail to cycle the action, but its main attraction was it's price. Now that that's gone, there really is absolutely no good reason to buy any unless you want it for a collection or something.
Link Posted: 8/19/2004 1:13:22 PM EST
Because we all fell in love with it back then.

Some morons just cant do the math now, and realize that they are paying out the nose for old ammo.

Wait for the once a year bass-pro sale on Q3131A is what I do.... and just dream of the days when you could get good M193 for 10 cents a round.
Link Posted: 8/19/2004 1:58:27 PM EST
What about their .308?
Link Posted: 8/19/2004 2:28:54 PM EST

Originally Posted By macman37:
What about their .308?



Great stuff. If you can find it at a good price, its comparable to Port.
Link Posted: 8/20/2004 11:17:10 AM EST
Link Posted: 8/20/2004 12:49:53 PM EST
I like it because it comes in a cool battle pack.
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