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Posted: 9/24/2005 5:26:10 PM EDT
Well I had decided on an XM15 for my new rifle but I can get a NIB LE6920 for $1000 from a friend.
Are there any benefits of having the Colt over the Bushmaster? What are they? I tried to search but didnt come up with anything, so dont lash me too hard.:) |
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Get your kevlar and popcorn... |
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A higher price tag. Though that does mean higher resale as well.
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The bushy is a mere carbine
The Colt is a natural extention of your penis. |
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Seriously, I'd get the Colt for that price. I'm no kool aid drinker, but I wouldn't pass that up. ETA: Magnetic particle inspected bolt, M16 carrier (if it's a newer version), and the labels make it worth more. Some people go crazy over having a rifle that says Law Enforcement Only on it. |
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$1000 NIB..grab it quick. Otherwise, what you're giving up is the prestige and 3000 rounds of ammo for the price difference.
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1. 1:7" twist barrel. You can use 77gr. bullets if you want
2. MP tested bolt and barrel 3. M16 carrier on the more recent carbines 4. the knowledge that your rifle was made on the same assembly line, with most of the same parts and (hopefully) to the same specs by the people who make tens of thousands of weapons for the US government. Your choice as to whether or not those are worth getting the Colt for. |
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Oh not this again. Seriously though I am usually in the buy the Bushy camp but for $1000 you would be stupid to pass on a 6920. Hell I paid $950 for my Bushy right after the "sunset". The Colt has a 1/7" twist bbl opposed to Bushies 1/9. Colt has M4 feedramps. Bushy does not. All of Colts bbls and bolts are MP tested. Bushy only spot checks. Colt has M4 handguars Bushy does not. Bushy has a 6 position non mil spec stock. Colt has a 4 position mil spec stock. Those are the differences. Make your decision.
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kaxter
Member Joined :: April 2003 Post Number :: 73 USA You've been here since 03, and you haven't seen this question a million times? Get whatever makes you happy. $1000 for a 6920 and no tax is a good price. |
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No one's mentioned yet that the Colt has non-spec size fire control pins. Makes in more difficult to find replacements in the case of breakage or desire to add match trigger . Other than that, the Colt has several advantages to the Bushmaster (mp testing, 1:7 twist, M4 feedramps) If it was me, I'd buy the Colt for $1k, but any more than that, and you're better off with the Bushie and spending the surplus funds on mags and ammo.
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+1 They are both high quality rifles. I would jump on the 6920 at that price, though. |
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+1 It wouldn't matter if he just registered today. Does anyone read the posts here, do any other research and come up the the proper conclusion on their own? I rarely ask questions and when I do, and it's usually in someone else's topic. Oh well, I guess some people prefer to learn in other ways. Scott |
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I wish there was a ban-button for every moron that asks this question, because the only purpose is to get a rise out of people. That being said. Bushmaster!
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Properly built M4 marked upper receiver and F front sight base, parkerization under the front sight base, etc.
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Hey my Bushy has all of those things right out of the box |
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you can buy a toyota or a kia. which one will hold its value?
same with colt vs bushmaster. dont get me wrong i own both rifles. if push came to shove i'd sell the bushmaster first before i'd part with the colt. lee |
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What the Colt has that the Bushy doesn't
Correct Feedramps MP and Shot Peened Bolt Correct forged buffer tube Park under the FSB Correct hight sights What the Bushy has that the Colt doesn't Mil-spec hammer and trigger pins RDIAS ready |
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My Bushy was exactly how you described above..........infact all three of them are that way. |
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None of mine are purple.....all black. |
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If you really can't decide, think of it this way:
Most if not all the "pros" of the Colts (MP tested bolt, feed ramp, front sight, M16 carrier, etc) are all found on the upper. While the shortcomings of colts are all on the lower (none standard trigger/hammer pins). So how do one get the best of both worlds? Simple. By a Complete Colt Upper and put it on a Bushy(or other preferred brand) lower. Voila. You got yourself the best of everything. Don't forget to use a Colt/other milspec stocks if you want a retractable stock. Moral of the story? Don't buy a complete rifle. Built one. |
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You can get a 1:7 twist on the a Bushmaster, just call them and ask for it.
Bushmaster has the correct fire control pins (as has already been stated) and DIAS ready for when NFA laws are reversed once we a have a pro-gun friendly supreme court. Bushmaster as a company is friendly and pro-RTKBA. Colt as a company suck ass and doesn't give a damn about us. The MP tested bolt/carrier stuff... well, I guess if that's important to you... |
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Colt 6520 upper plus Armalite lower = 3500 trouble free rounds. |
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Man, thanks a lot i just spit my drink out on the damn keyboard. That was so goddamn funny I cant even think straight now.
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What exactly does "correct fire control pins" (in regards to what Colt has) and "DIAS ready" mean? I've just never heard this before, please enlighten me (and possibly others). Thanks,
- rem
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Colt uses oversized pins. (0.016" wider diameter). DIAS or whatever means that the receiver is cut to take a lightning link(or something similar) which makes a semi auto rifle shoot fully automatically. |
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This is the best way to do it. Mine is a Stag lower and CMT upper, with Colt M4A1 barrel and Colt M16 BCG. I also have a 6920. |
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I thought a non-sear-blocked lower also allowed for a lightning link? I've seen video of LL used on Colt lowers (unless i'm seriously mistaken here).
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Now believe it or not, thats very important to me. The other things are: M4 stamped receiver 1:7 twist M4 feed ramps "F" marked front sight base (correct height for flattop) staked receiver extension nut black port cover spring (not silver) evenly staked pins (front sight base) side sling adapter barrel is parked BEFORE the FSB is installed "H" marked buffer "T" marked rail Double shielded handguards Proper finish on barrel and receivers There's probably a few details I'm missing, but it's the attention to those details that I'll pay a premium price for. Plus the top instructors (ie: Pat Rogers) say the Colts are more reliable out of the box than other brands. Colt all the way baby! |
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Off the top of my head, Colt would have a better resell value. There are so many Bushmasters on the market that they wouldn't give you as much money as a true Colt rifle.
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+1 Colt What the Colt has that the Bushy doesn't.
Correct Feedramps MP and Shot Peened Bolt Correct forged buffer tube Park under the FSB Correct hight sights |
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Either way your getting a well built weapon. Buy whatever makes you happier.
The Colt comes with more features, and if you find they mean something to you, by all means get the Colt. The two are sure to be close in performance I dont think the Colt is worth paying a lot more for, so if the Bushy price point is much lower, get Bushy and use the left over money for ammo and mags |
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Most colts have a silver ej. port cover spring. Some the things you listed are redundant. RED Both the Bushy and Colt have the same finish. |
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so you haven't zeroed it yet? ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=66&t=239124&page=1 |
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sheep talk |
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This could be a new sig line.... |
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Can I ask how does a LMT compair to a LE6920? Please don''t Flame me for trying to learn more about LMT and Colt.
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Other than resale value, those 2 are very similar in features and material. |
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Damn, you're right! I've been such a fool! Pat Rogers experiences are worthless! What he has seen on the range doesn't mean a damn thing. He doesn't gather facts by observation...NO! He just blathers on in hopes of ensnaring the nearest impressionable person. Prolly just trying to make himself look good, yeah thats the ticket. Golly gee wiz mister, thanks for clearing that up for me. I'll never be led astray again. I dont wanna be a sheep......will YOU teach me? |
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You only caught two out of 12 total....maybe 13? |
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Don't forget M4 feedramps and a T numdered upper. |
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Nothing substantial to add. Both good. Colt probably better. Colt not civilian friendly. Bushie with recent QA issues. All even, take the Colt. No free lunch.
I pick RRA. The comments in this thread are really good. Read and think. R. |
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try "peristent" not "recent". max windage and loose key bolts have been a problem with them as far back as the end of '98. |
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