Do you consider a "build", being a gun that you pieced together part by part?

Or

Do you consider a "build", buying a gun & changing its parts to make a different set up?

To me, the later is just modifying to get what you want out of a gun that you already bought.  On the other hand in actuality you are "building" what you want...

to me there are two types of builds

BUILD #1

A true build within itself.  Meaning buying a stripped lower, LPK, stripped upper, bbl, FF/Hanguards, etc etc and piecing it all together.  These builds or anything done within the list I mentioned, should be posted in the build it yourself forum.

BUILD #2

These "builds" are considered swapping one part for a better part, or upgrading to a desired part (i.e. 1/9 HBAR to 1/7 M4....Removable CH to Rear BUIS and red dot...regular pistol grip to a MIAD/Battlegrip/Hogue/etc)  Things of that nature are more so modding or upgrading your rifle.  These should more so be termed as mods/upgrades although the term build is loosely used between the two builds I mentioned.

A "build" requires that one not only put the parts together, but one had to cut ,thread, shape, or otherwise manipulate material from one form to another. At the very least one would have to apply a proper finish to it.

If you buy a bunch of parts and put them together, that itsn't a build. It is an assembly. While this is a respectable accomplishment, it doesn't rise to the level of build.

I consider a build putting together an entire rifle from individual parts wich to me is a stripped upper,stripped lower and the assembling all the diferent parts assemblies on those 2 items.If I change out a barrel im re-barreling,changing parts are a reapir,upgrade.If I have to take a machine tool of some kind to the rifle or parts its a modification.If its a stripped upper or lower its partly built or ive done an upper or lower build.cutting,threading or shaping is a modification or a step in making a part for a build.

Orange county choppers builds custom bikes from existing assemblies...cutting,threading or shaping is custom fabrication wich they also do.They dont build engines from scratch,they may custom fabricate parts but some things they use are already ready to use.If you are cutting,threading or shaping id call that a "custom fabricated"build.Besides semi-auto rifles in them selves require custom fabrication especialy for fire control group parts.To me to build or assemble is one in the same.If you cut,thread or shape its a scratch build or custom fabrication,as ive said some parts have already benn cut or threaded before you buy the assembly.So if I machine full-auto parts to semi standard myself and add a coat of krylon to the rifle thats a build but its not if the factory or machine shop did it before I assembled it?

The reason why the tail end of a disconector is shiny is because it was a full-auto part with the tail machined off or cut off for semi-auto only.They just dont forge or make semi-auto parts they are made 1 way and then machined or cut down to semi-auto standard and thats I guess a fabricated or custom part thats machined to a certain standard.Just because you didnt anodize the receivers does not mean its not a build..its just not a "custom"build.and even custom builds have standard assemblies.

Arfcom "Build"
assembly of an AR type rifle from individual parts or using pre-assembled sub groups...ie..complete upper pinned to a stripped lower the owner installed an LPK, pistolgrip and stock assembly on.

If your real picky;
Full build- all parts seperate and the owner assembles entire rifle
Partial build- most parts seperate(stripped lower), upper half aquired completely assembled or vice versa.

swapping parts on an assembled rifle...modifying or Moddin

Quoted: A "build" requires that one not only put the parts together, but one had to cut ,thread, shape, or otherwise manipulate material from one form to another. At the very least one would have to apply a proper finish to it. If you buy a bunch of parts and put them together, that itsn't a build. It is an assembly. While this is a respectable accomplishment, it doesn't rise to the level of build.

Your being too picky...thats manufacturing...doubt theres too many full fledged machinist/manufacturers posting daily on here. Most(but not all) of the factory rifles are assembled from outsourced parts. Such as uppers and lowers

Build sounds better than assembled...Look at my newest assembly!..

See, it just doesnt have that ring to it.

Quoted: Arfcom "Build" assembly of an AR type rifle from individual parts or using pre-assembled sub groups...ie..complete upper pinned to a stripped lower the owner installed an LPK, pistolgrip and stock assembly on.

That's my definition.  Putting it together to make a working weapon, even if the upper comes fully assembled.  Swapping out parts on an existing weapon isn't a build.

Quoted: Quoted: A "build" requires that one not only put the parts together, but one had to cut ,thread, shape, or otherwise manipulate material from one form to another. At the very least one would have to apply a proper finish to it. If you buy a bunch of parts and put them together, that itsn't a build. It is an assembly. While this is a respectable accomplishment, it doesn't rise to the level of build. Your being too picky...thats manufacturing...doubt theres too many full fledged machinist/manufacturers posting daily on here. Most(but not all) of the factory rifles are assembled from outsourced parts. Such as uppers and lowers Build sounds better than assembled...Look at my newest assembly!.. See, it just doesnt have that ring to it.

we have alot of "real builders" here. they are just all on the AK side. its not building unless it requires a drill press... and rivets

Build..Customize..Hotrod..  It's all good.  Any chance you get to take it apart and put it together makes you a better rifleman. Unless you loose a part.....


Mike

VA Beach

BADVST...now thats friken building man..

My first build didn't even start as a kit or even a group of kits.  I bought each part individually (typically in about $50 batches) until I finally bought my lower and upper and put the bad boy together.  I'm looking at projects that just don't come from a factory the way I want them, and these will be "bit-part-piece" builds as well.

My current AR is an RRA complete lower with an RRA complete upper-bought separately, but at the same gun show.  A "Build"?  Not at all.