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Posted: 12/28/2003 8:36:58 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/28/2003 3:03:29 PM EDT by CB1]
Pick your favorite AR...

Sporter 2 lower $700
Bushmaster M4 upper $285
bolt carrier assembly $116
Houge pistol grip $19
Aimpoint M2 $325
Aimpoint extended battery cap $22
ARMS M2268 $99
ARMS extended spacer $30
KillFlash $19
VLTOR standard carbine $114
VLTOR buffer tube $40
ARMS #40 $99
KAC RAS $320
KAC VPG $45
KAC 6 rib panel $19
Phantom F/S $30
Perm attach F/S $50

total $2,332.00

WOW! I am glad I have thieft insurance.

Link Posted: 12/28/2003 8:55:46 AM EDT
Link Posted: 12/28/2003 9:18:28 AM EDT
Which one?  I have several[beer]

Max
Link Posted: 12/28/2003 11:35:53 AM EDT
Oh, about $10,000. (I bought a registered M16. [:D] )
Link Posted: 12/28/2003 11:54:08 AM EDT
I'll never tell!



Unless you are buying the Beer...and ammo...

Danny
Link Posted: 12/28/2003 12:15:51 PM EDT
Originally Posted By M4Madness:
Oh, about $10,000. (I bought a registered M16. [:D] )
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show off!
[beer]
good shooting!!
Link Posted: 12/28/2003 12:25:07 PM EDT
So will it kill better than my $800 Armalite M15a2?
Link Posted: 12/28/2003 12:26:06 PM EDT
Originally Posted By CB1:
Originally Posted By M4Madness:
Oh, about $10,000. (I bought a registered M16. [:D] )
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show off!
[beer]
good shooting!!
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Just having a little fun with ya. Glad you weren't offended. I see that you are from Texas. I bought the M16 from a dealer in Dallas.
Link Posted: 12/28/2003 12:30:22 PM EDT
Well, I only PAID $674.50 for it.  What it's worth is an entirely different matter.  If it serves its purpose, it's worth my life.  If it doesn't, it isn't worth shit on the bottom of a sandal.
Link Posted: 12/28/2003 12:34:53 PM EDT
Can drive a person nuts thinking about it some times....


My varmint rifle:

DPMS Stainless Steel lower=350
Lower parts kit           = 75
JP Ent. trigger/hammer    =150
3 way adj. buttplate      =120
JP Ent. grade 1 assemb    =775
Leupold 6.5-20x Long Range=750
Armalite 30mm mount       = 85
Harris sitting bipod      = 90
plus  other crap around   =200

Total is around 2600 dollars.

Then there's my AR10, as it sits it was cheap at 1400 dollars plus 350 for scope and mount.   But eventually it will get a ARMS SIR for it when they are released plus I'll probably get an accurized long range upper in 300SRUM or 260Rem with appropriate long range scope, figure close to 4500 when all is said and done.
Link Posted: 12/28/2003 12:53:51 PM EDT
Originally Posted By SGB:
So will it kill better than my $800 Armalite M15a2?
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point is, some of us spend a lot of money on our toys...

I was just adding it all up and was surprised.
my wife just shook her head at the lunacy of it all
Link Posted: 12/28/2003 1:18:27 PM EDT
Well, what a rude thing to ask.... now you got me thinking about it...
$295 BM complete lower
$595 BM complete flattop 16" upper
$140 GG&G MAD flipup rear sight
$150 GG&G flipup front sight
$300 Knight's RIS (or is it RAS?)
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$1480 so far, but I still have to add...
$200 Burris scout scope
$100 ARMS rings
$30 ARMs ring inserts
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$1810 greeeeeaaaaat

Thank god I got the RIS used, the upper, lower, scope and sights when I was working at a gunshop & got things at cost.
Now you've got me thinking what my new project total will be....

$100 pre A-1 stripped upper
$60 misc. upper parts
$100 bolt & carrier
$200 BM barrel
$260 Cavarms complete lower
$100 Carbon fiber free float tube
$150 KKF 'smithing fees (approximate)
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$970 when all said and done.... again, damn you for asking!


And SGB, does your $800 Armalite do anything that a $410 Model 1 sales kit on a $100 stripped BM lower doesn't do?
Link Posted: 12/28/2003 1:35:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/28/2003 1:35:52 PM EDT by SMV]
Between ACOGs, surefires, and handguards and mounts to put all this crap, I'm afraid to add up the numbers. But what I spend on a single AR, and what it's worth to me is incomprable.

Steve.
Link Posted: 12/28/2003 2:13:07 PM EDT
When it`s in your hands when you need it it`s priceless.
Link Posted: 12/28/2003 2:23:24 PM EDT
Too much to think about, let alone post on the internet [;)]
Link Posted: 12/28/2003 6:47:16 PM EDT
And SGB, does your $800 Armalite do anything that a $410 Model 1 sales kit on a $100 stripped BM lower doesn't do?
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Yes, The inside of the barrel won't rust [;)]

Link Posted: 12/28/2003 7:04:53 PM EDT
Hmmm....alot of those prices are retail.  Not too many dealers on this site sell at retail.  Where did you guys buy your stuff?
Link Posted: 12/28/2003 7:09:17 PM EDT
Originally Posted By 223Rem:
Hmmm....alot of those prices are retail.  Not too many dealers on this site sell at retail.  Where did you guys buy your stuff?
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Actually, I specifically said I DIDN'T pay those prices.  The question was "what is yours worth?" which I took to mean for insurance purposes.  If it got stolen, what would you expect to be paid by the insurance company, retail, or whatever the best deal they could find on the closest facsimile?
Link Posted: 12/28/2003 7:17:42 PM EDT
Originally Posted By SGB:
And SGB, does your $800 Armalite do anything that a $410 Model 1 sales kit on a $100 stripped BM lower doesn't do?
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Yes, The inside of the barrel won't rust [;)]
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You say that like the other one will, as if it's a matter of fact.  And let's assume that it would, is that really a $300 upgrade? [;d]
Link Posted: 12/28/2003 8:45:24 PM EDT
I wouldnt say its a $300 upgrade but chrome lining the bore and chamber is an exact science and has to be done right.I also know its one of the most expensive things cost wise in AR production.As far as the inside of a barrel rusting yes it can if its not chrome lined and not regularly maintained.A non chromed barrel should be fine if maintained properly.I prefer chromed and Ill only buy Bushmaster barrels.I would colt if they were cheaper and FN dosent sell to the public.I know bushy and colt make their barrels in house and use 4150 steel,FN Im not sure but if they do make their own Im sure theres are the best materials also seeing as how they manufacture for the government.
Link Posted: 12/28/2003 10:53:44 PM EDT
my cheapest cost less than $400 to build runs like a champ. My most expencive aint any of your business. [:D]

CB1 if you try to collect that insurance some time, you'll probably find out something.
Link Posted: 12/28/2003 11:47:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/28/2003 11:47:36 PM EDT by SGB]
You say that like the other one will, as if it's a matter of fact.
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Ask any late 1960's Vietnam Vet.

And let's assume that it would, is that really a $300 upgrade?
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Absolutely
Link Posted: 12/29/2003 3:32:44 AM EDT
Originally Posted By JustL00king:
CB1 if you try to collect that insurance some time, you'll probably find out something.
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What is this cryptic nonsense.  If you have something to say, or add to the discussion, spit it out!
Link Posted: 12/29/2003 3:37:46 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/29/2003 3:43:02 AM EDT by norman74]
Originally Posted By SGB:
And let's assume that it would, is that really a $300 upgrade?
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Absolutely
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You can get barrels all day long from Bushmaster for $175.  That doesn't include the "credit" you should get for the non-chrome-lined.  Model 1 lists their barrels at $135.  Looks to me more like a $40 upgrade.

Don't get me wrong, I like chrome-lined barrels too.  Your initial "why spend so much" attitude is what caused me to take the piss out of you.  At the end of the day, you could buy a used model 1 kit gun off of somebody you knew and trusted for probably under $500, and it would still throw lead downrange just as fast and practically accurately (meaning as well as most could do with irons or would need) as the $800 Armalite.

Edit....
Just looked at the [url=http://www.armalite.com/sales/catalog/components/223barrels.htm]Armalite[/url] website, and it looks like chrome lined is only an option on their 20" barrels, and in fact it's only a [b]$20]/b] upgrade.  What happened to your other $280? [;d]
Link Posted: 12/29/2003 6:17:44 AM EDT
Originally Posted By norman74:
Originally Posted By JustL00king:
CB1 if you try to collect that insurance some time, you'll probably find out something.
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What is this cryptic nonsense.  If you have something to say, or add to the discussion, spit it out!
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yeah, what do you mean? Are we gonna get hosed? laughed at? arrested?  come on man... tell us.
Link Posted: 12/29/2003 6:28:27 AM EDT
I think he may be referring to the practice, by certain insurance carriers, of refusing to cover firearm losses unless the insured buys separate policy riders for them.
Link Posted: 12/29/2003 6:40:09 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Delta_3_63:
I think he may be referring to the practice, by certain insurance carriers, of refusing to cover firearm losses unless the insured buys separate policy riders for them.
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Now it makes sense, in fact I already have seperate riders for the firearms.

I recomend the seperate rider 100%
Link Posted: 12/29/2003 6:49:34 AM EDT
$619.37 (looked on the receipt)
Link Posted: 12/29/2003 7:29:19 AM EDT
Originally Posted By SGB:
So will it kill better than my $800 Armalite M15a2?
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What's your point? I spend what I want on my weapons. They don't kill any better than your Armalite but they're damn sure worth more. [;D]

Dirk
Link Posted: 12/29/2003 8:14:23 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Dirk_Pitt:
Originally Posted By SGB:
So will it kill better than my $800 Armalite M15a2?
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What's your point? I spend what I want on my weapons. They don't kill any better than your Armalite but they're damn sure worth more. [;D]

Dirk
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My DSA kills better AND it's worth more!
Link Posted: 12/29/2003 8:34:10 AM EDT
Originally Posted By norman74:
Originally Posted By Dirk_Pitt:
Originally Posted By SGB:
So will it kill better than my $800 Armalite M15a2?
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What's your point? I spend what I want on my weapons. They don't kill any better than your Armalite but they're damn sure worth more. [;D]

Dirk
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My DSA kills better AND it's worth more!
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Are you talking about that target blaster I saw at the Anniversary Shoot? If so you're right!

Dirk
Link Posted: 12/29/2003 8:39:44 AM EDT
norman74 will not only take someone out with that dammed cannon...he will blow the house apart from the inside as well! [SHOCK]
Link Posted: 12/29/2003 8:42:18 AM EDT
Wanna know the scary part?  It's the rifle I'd grab in a SHTF situation.  God help the dog's ears when I gets to shootin.
Link Posted: 12/29/2003 2:38:40 PM EDT
My point gentlemen is that Cost and Worth are two seperate things. All the do dads, bells and whistles cost a lot and the subjective is what are all those bell's whistles and do dads WORTH.

To me thier worth is minimal despite the cost. My Armalite is worth the $800 cost to ME. I spend the extra do dad money on ammo and practice.


[peep]Sorry if I put a wet blanket on the look how much money I spent party.

........and I have lots of piss left [;)]
Link Posted: 12/29/2003 2:55:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/29/2003 2:55:24 PM EDT by Dirk_Pitt]
Originally Posted By SGB:
My point gentlemen is that Cost and Worth are two seperate things. All the do dads, bells and whistles cost a lot and the subjective is what are all those bell's whistles and do dads WORTH.

To me thier worth is minimal despite the cost. My Armalite is worth the $800 cost to ME. I spend the extra do dad money on ammo and practice.


[peep]Sorry if I put a wet blanket on the look how much money I spent party.

........and I have lots of piss left [;)]
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Does that mean you drive a Yugo? [:D]

Dirk

Link Posted: 12/29/2003 3:11:02 PM EDT
Does that mean you drive a Yugo? [:D]

Dirk
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Damn close...........Aerostar [;)]
Link Posted: 12/29/2003 4:34:02 PM EDT
Originally Posted By SGB:
My point gentlemen is that Cost and Worth are two seperate things. All the do dads, bells and whistles cost a lot and the subjective is what are all those bell's whistles and do dads WORTH.

To me thier worth is minimal despite the cost. My Armalite is worth the $800 cost to ME. I spend the extra do dad money on ammo and practice.


[peep]Sorry if I put a wet blanket on the look how much money I spent party.

........and I have lots of piss left [;)]
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the point is that it's relative.  That's what you seem to be missing.  You spent the extra money on ammo?  good.  The guy that has the $500 model 1 gun spent that extra $300 on ammo.  And the guy that has that SAR 1 he got a couple of years ago spent the extra $500 on ammo.  Just like your $800 Armalite does everything my $1800 Bushy does, so the $500 Model 1 does everything your Armalite does.
Also, bear in mind, some people have the money for the rifle AND the ammo.  Just because YOU had to make a choice between the two doesn't mean everyone has to.
I don't think the point of this thread at all was "look how much I spent".  I honestly never thought about it until this thread.  I couldn't care less if you think I spent too much OR too little.
Link Posted: 12/29/2003 5:14:20 PM EDT

the point is that it's relative.  That's what you seem to be missing.  You spent the extra money on ammo?  good.  The guy that has the $500 model 1 gun spent that extra $300 on ammo.  And the guy that has that SAR 1 he got a couple of years ago spent the extra $500 on ammo.  Just like your $800 Armalite does everything my $1800 Bushy does, so the $500 Model 1 does everything your Armalite does.
Also, bear in mind, some people have the money for the rifle AND the ammo.  Just because YOU had to make a choice between the two doesn't mean everyone has to.
I don't think the point of this thread at all was "look how much I spent".  I honestly never thought about it until this thread.  I couldn't care less if you think I spent too much OR too little.
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For Crying out loud Norman74, you win. I already said that I was [b][red]SORRY[/b][/red]
It's not like I give a damn what anyone does with thier money. Spend it, Burn it, save it or give it the fuck away.............. Jee fucking whiz [BD]
Link Posted: 12/29/2003 6:01:23 PM EDT
Originally Posted By SGB:

the point is that it's relative.  That's what you seem to be missing.  You spent the extra money on ammo?  good.  The guy that has the $500 model 1 gun spent that extra $300 on ammo.  And the guy that has that SAR 1 he got a couple of years ago spent the extra $500 on ammo.  Just like your $800 Armalite does everything my $1800 Bushy does, so the $500 Model 1 does everything your Armalite does.
Also, bear in mind, some people have the money for the rifle AND the ammo.  Just because YOU had to make a choice between the two doesn't mean everyone has to.
I don't think the point of this thread at all was "look how much I spent".  I honestly never thought about it until this thread.  I couldn't care less if you think I spent too much OR too little.
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For Crying out loud Norman74, you win. I already said that I was [b][red]SORRY[/b][/red]
It's not like I give a damn what anyone does with thier money. Spend it, Burn it, save it or give it the fuck away.............. Jee fucking whiz [BD]
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I guess that piss just ran out huh?

Don't get all testy.  It's just the internet.
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