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I have been looking around and seen some different lasers called SSA or OTAL's and they initialy look like AIRSOFT toys, however, I recently inspected a so called "OTAL" at the range it it looked pretty nice for the bucks. All aluminum, infared, good control layout and simple design, it was mounted firmly on a friends RAS. Now I dont throw my dollars around wildly, have owned a PAQ-4C and used both the PAQ-4C and the PEQ-2 in combat situations. Is there some obvious questions that arise. Is this thing quality? Will it operate reliably and is it a weapon grade laser. If you can help I would appreciate your input. Dont waste flaming folks who say they are happy with these. Just the facts please. Thanks a bunch.
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Posted: 3/15/2005 3:41:33 PM EST
I use an IR OTAL in my work as a contractor. Its held up well, I like it and recommend it.
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Posted: 3/15/2005 3:41:50 PM EST
Are you talking about an actual OTAL made by Laser Devices, or a copy of an OTAL? I don't understand. If you are talking about a real OTAL, then it is definately not an airsoft toy, it is designed for an AR15.
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Posted: 3/15/2005 5:19:12 PM EST
I have a Laser Devices OTAL I bought from Grant at http://www.gandrtactical.com and I assure you it is a quality made product.
It is the model with the ARMS base, and after zeroing my TA31F ACOG on the MRP, I was amazed to find that the laser was projecting it's spot about 2 inches to the left of the rifle zero at 100 yards before any adjustments to the elevation and windage knobs! Now that is one quality made piece of hardware. |
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Posted: 3/15/2005 8:42:45 PM EST
Maybe thats where my problem lies. I didn't know that there are real OTALS and there are airsoft copies. I have seen the PAQ-4C and PEQ-2 airsoft copies, they are easy to distinguish. Are the airsoft copies of the OTAL called SAA? I have gone to several onine sources and most if not all look the same. Anything to offer in making the differences between them? Dont say the cost should be the first indicator because one source is Ebay and you know they start out cheap in the process at first anyway. Your help is appreciated. Thanks.
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Posted: 3/16/2005 2:15:30 AM EST
i dont know what SSA is for but mine is an LDI OTAL.
laser device inc. which i got from grant at gandrtactical.com very rugged and hasnt reared any problems |
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Posted: 3/16/2005 7:01:41 AM EST
The first problem is that you shouldn't BUY ANYTHING OFF EBAY as you will most likely get screwed (and also cannot verify if you got the real deal or not). The LDI OTAL's are HIGH QUALITY and are combat ready. Buy from an authorized LDI dealer and that way you can make sure you are getting what you paid for! C4 www.gandrtactical.com |
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Posted: 3/16/2005 1:31:25 PM EST
  REAL OTALs are not just for AR/M16s! 
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Posted: 3/16/2005 3:58:22 PM EST
Yes and hell yes.  There is also the DBAL if you are interested in a Visible+IR laser combo. |
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Posted: 3/17/2005 4:58:16 AM EST
[Last Edit: 3/17/2005 5:00:18 AM EST by kavik]
John, if the unit you are looking at is around $300, it is a copy made in hong kong. Real otal's run in the $1000 price range. I think the unit you are looking at on ebay is from the guy who imports the copies. He had one advertised here as well. Specifically ask where and by whom it is made. I have not tried this item, I was going to grab one on an auction at around $100 to try, but the price got bid up. I did talk to another guy wo was bidding on one who was getting a second, as he was happy with his first. IMHO, I would guess it is better than nothing and fairly functional, but a big step down from real production ones. Chris
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Posted: 3/17/2005 3:19:13 PM EST
Thanks Chris, I have seen them in a few places under a couple different names. Thats why I am trying to get some specifics about the "real" laser. Like if there is a data tag, a manufacturers logo, that kind'a stuff. The one I saw at the range had no markings except for the power switch info. I did not have it off to look under it. I know my Insight PAQ-4C had a data tag on the underside. And it was serialized. Just looking for some helpfull hints on not getting burned if you know what I mean. Thanks,
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Posted: 3/17/2005 3:47:06 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/17/2005 3:47:42 PM EST by C4iGrant]
I sell the REAL IR OTALS (with thumb screw mount) for $580 (if you are LE). If that is to much, get the LAS/TAC IR for $305. C4 |
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