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11/9/2018 9:21:38 PM
Posted: 11/8/2018 5:37:16 PM EST
I just got a spitfire AR and something seems off. It definitely has negative magnification no matter how the focus is set. The negative maginification is significant and I can’t imagine it being usable.

Do I have a defective unit?
Link Posted: 11/9/2018 12:00:19 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/9/2018 1:32:25 AM EST by Lightstriker]
Originally Posted By SickMAK90:
I just got a spitfire AR and something seems off. It definitely has negative magnification no matter how the focus is set. The negative maginification is significant and I can’t imagine it being usable.

Do I have a defective unit?
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To be clear, by negative magnification, do you mean that objects viewed through the scope appear further away than when not viewed through the scope no matter how far to either extreme you adjust the diopter?

Are you adjusting the optic with both eyes open, passing the optic's view in front of your eyes as you adjust the diopter?
Link Posted: 11/9/2018 5:30:17 AM EST
Not to be a wise guy, but possibly turn it around ?
Link Posted: 11/9/2018 5:35:36 AM EST
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Originally Posted By wagonwheel1:
Not to be a wise guy, but possibly turn it around ?
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You cannot on install this model backwards.
Link Posted: 11/9/2018 5:40:03 AM EST
Post your issue in the Vortex forum - they have great support and will respond quickly

https://www.ar15.com/forums/Industry/Vortex-Optics/277/
Link Posted: 11/9/2018 9:47:55 AM EST
Originally Posted By SickMAK90:
I just got a spitfire AR and something seems off. It definitely has negative magnification no matter how the focus is set. The negative maginification is significant and I can’t imagine it being usable.

Do I have a defective unit?
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You're not the only one. I bought a second gen Spitfire for my back up competition rifle and once its reticle was focused for my eyes, I could tell the 1x turned to -0.9x! The first gen unit didn't have that issue.

I don't believe it is defective, just bad glass. Haven't had time to pull it off my back up rifle to send it in.
Link Posted: 11/9/2018 10:57:11 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/9/2018 5:29:31 PM EST by Lightstriker]
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Originally Posted By bravo5two:

You're not the only one. I bought a second gen Spitfire for my back up competition rifle and once its reticle was focused for my eyes, I could tell the 1x turned to -0.9x! The first gen unit didn't have that issue.

I don't believe it is defective, just bad glass. Haven't had time to pull it off my back up rifle to send it in.
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By second gen, do you mean the Spitfire AR versus the Spitfire 1x DRT NON-AR?

I have Spitfire 1x DRTs (4 actually, of the the NON-AR rotory illumination not pushbutton version, model 1301) and do not have this issue with any of them.

Or are there multiple generations of the Spitfire AR?
Link Posted: 11/9/2018 12:31:13 PM EST
Link Posted: 11/9/2018 4:09:22 PM EST
Thanks for the message. I've replied. I would be interested to find out too because the old version (with 2-piece riser) was comparable to my Leupold Prismatic after the diopter was adjusted to my eye (-5.75), both presented 'flat' image without any pos/neg magnification. I needed one more 1x prism type for a different rifle, got the 1X-AR and it wasn't the same as the first unit (a few years older).
Link Posted: 11/9/2018 5:44:47 PM EST
I've noticed this with mine. It's not drastic, but it's definitely present.
Link Posted: 11/11/2018 3:49:10 PM EST
I may send it in and see what you all think.

I’ve let a few other people look through it and they all say the same thing.
Link Posted: 11/11/2018 10:38:08 PM EST
Mine too. Thing just seem smaller looking thru it.
Link Posted: 11/12/2018 9:33:45 AM EST
Link Posted: 11/12/2018 11:29:45 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/12/2018 11:30:16 AM EST by Lightstriker]
I suspect people are not adjusting the diopter AND shooting with both eyes open. Instead doing one or the other with only one eye open and wondering why things are looking wonky.

I just tried this theory this morning and can replicate the 'problem' on my Spitfire 1x DRTs.
Link Posted: 11/16/2018 10:07:55 PM EST
I just got my PA cyclops in and wow, it’s better. It seems like a true 1x and I’m not getting the weird distortion. I think I’m going to send my vortex back and see what’s wrong.

The reticle is also much much more simple and less cluttered.
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