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Posted: 2/22/2007 4:20:18 PM EST
The other night I was discussing pro-cons of the AR 9mm SBR vs. a full-size Uzi SBR with a friend. I like the AR platform, but honestly, I may have lost.

Uzi is about as accurate, far cheaper to buy/build, mags are more plentiful and far cheaper, and there's no need to bother with all the various mods needed for an AR conversion. Cons are lack of real optics options and also the availability of quality parts.

How would you come out on this debate and for what reasons?
Link Posted: 2/22/2007 5:01:08 PM EST
[Last Edit: 2/22/2007 5:03:10 PM EST by weptek911]
The ergonomics on the Uzi are kind of clunky , AR is much more ergonomic. (IMHO )

You can use Uzi mags in an AR with the right adaptor.

AR has BHO

You can swap parts out and fire 9mm AND .223 in an AR. Try that with an Uzi.

**I can build an AR 9mm carbine for around $800. How much are Uzi's ?
Link Posted: 2/22/2007 5:07:41 PM EST
Uzi is less controllable, has a FUBAR manual of arms, is open bolt (which complicates training greatly) and poor ergonomics. I MUCH prefer the Colt in both semi and fully automatic fire.
Link Posted: 2/22/2007 5:22:47 PM EST
UZI sights are also very rudimentary compared to an AR.
Link Posted: 2/22/2007 5:24:05 PM EST
Semi? 9mmAR
FA? 9mm M16/SMG type
Link Posted: 2/22/2007 6:18:58 PM EST
AR has ability to have comfortable grip.
AR has readily available match trigger groups.
You can mount optics on an AR pretty much anywhere you want to.
The 9mm AR was never a rap song icon.

Uzi is more compact for equal barrel lengths.
Uzi probably is more tolerant of sand contamination. (no suprise)
Snake Eyes carried one.Karl
Link Posted: 2/22/2007 10:13:07 PM EST
I like the full size Uzi with the folding stock in full auto. They tolerate being dirty better. Open bolt full auto controllability is very good. That is about all the positive you can say about it. Heavy, inaccurate, ergonomically bad, poor selector, grip safety, useless in semi auto, mag release location, little to no personalizing can be done to it.

By far the AR 9mm is an overall better setup with good mags and hardware. The only thing that is somewhat comparable/debatable is the MP5 which I consider a close second.
Link Posted: 2/22/2007 10:45:53 PM EST
For those of us who live in non-SBR states, a 16" AR just LOOKS better than a 16" Uzi.
Link Posted: 2/23/2007 6:38:22 AM EST

The 9mm AR was never a rap song icon.

OK pretty good arguments. If you can actually build a 9mm AR for $800, then please PM me.
Link Posted: 2/23/2007 2:03:25 PM EST
I have both.

The UZI doesn't get used much.
Link Posted: 2/23/2007 11:11:32 PM EST
My Mod1 kit on an Eagle/Armalite lower was less than a grand with M4 and A3 upgrades. Had it all together ready for the range in about 30 minutes. Needed fine tuning but shoots great.
Link Posted: 2/24/2007 4:49:51 AM EST
I don't know about $800, but Legal Transfers has RRA complete rifles NIB for $849 delivered. With the FFL transfer fee you should be able to get out around $875.
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