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Posted: 6/6/2009 9:44:09 AM EDT
So I sprayed down my new Colt 6920 with CLP and wiped down the exterior with it.  Then I read this:

Silicone oil helps protect your gun from moisture and gives it a shiny clean appearance. You should never use petroleum or mineral based oils on the exterior of your gun as these can damage the "bluing" on your gun (that's what makes it look black). Bluing is a form of rust and the use of such oils remove the bluing and can result in normal rust forming if the oil dries up. Should you need to restore the bluing on your barrel or metalwork you can get bluing compounds to do this.

I had asked in another thread and when I asked how to clean the exterior of my gun they said "CLP/gunscrubber".  Now I'm pretty worried.  I sprayed down everything, the picitanny rail, the FSB, everything...  I had thought you had to apply oil to the outside parts to keep rust from forming so every metal part of the gun now has a coat of oil on it.  Is this right/wrong?  Is it even necessary to clean/oil parts like the picitanny/omega rail?  I assumed that since they are metal they need to be protected against rust too... so yeah, there's not a metal piece on the gun that hasn't had a layer of CLP applied to it.
Link Posted: 6/6/2009 9:47:17 AM EDT
[#1]
Your 6920 is not "Blued."

It is Parkerized.

Nothing to worry about.

ETA: Blueing is a very shiny, polished black finish used on old revolvers and hunting rifles.
Link Posted: 6/6/2009 9:49:34 AM EDT
[#2]
So is it normal to apply oil to all exterior metals?
Link Posted: 6/6/2009 9:51:38 AM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
So is it normal to apply oil to all exterior metals?


Depends on how you intend to store the weapon and what your local conditions are like.

Since it appears you live in the deep south, I am guessing it is humid there year round, and you might want a very light coating of oil on the exterior surfaces to help prevent rust.

In Arizona, not so much.

Link Posted: 6/6/2009 10:14:51 AM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
So is it normal to apply oil to all exterior metals?


Just wipe it down with a CLP coated rag. A little goes along way on the external. We have 100% humidity most of the time, so its important to get it wiped down.

Link Posted: 6/6/2009 10:16:46 AM EDT
[#5]
CLP will not hurt your rifle.
Simple Green will...
Link Posted: 6/6/2009 10:21:41 AM EDT
[#6]
BF/CLP is the best for a M16/AR15

I have used KTX on my non park FSB


0 problems here in SWFL

My M4`s are right next to my window !

If you clean your AR well in and out it welll be just fine

I hadnt clean the outside of M4 for over a year and have 0 rust

I clean the outside of Barrel mostly and other metal parts

I dont clean ALUM Unless I get dirt etc!
Link Posted: 6/6/2009 10:25:41 AM EDT
[#7]
Link Posted: 6/6/2009 10:40:34 AM EDT
[#8]
Thanks for the back up
Link Posted: 6/6/2009 10:44:27 AM EDT
[#9]
Link Posted: 6/6/2009 10:51:01 AM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
I was drinking coffee and slow on my posting.  Had I seen yours, I could have just agreed with you.  


check MOE topic PLZ

Coffe sounds nice


BTW  back in 2002 what happen to all your info? / cool pic`s
Link Posted: 6/6/2009 11:18:42 AM EDT
[#11]
In over 10 years of AR shooting, I've never put a drop of CLP or anything else on the exterior of any of my ARs.

They get wet periodically, but the dry off with no issue.  I'm not around salt water though.
Link Posted: 6/6/2009 11:28:51 AM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
In over 10 years of AR shooting, I've never put a drop of CLP or anything else on the exterior of any of my ARs.

They get wet periodically, but the dry off with no issue.  I'm not around salt water though.


Im close to brackish water Peace river  

and have a canal in the back yard
wich is dried up 99% of the time

Link Posted: 6/6/2009 11:34:02 AM EDT
[#13]
So how do you guys clean dirt/dust off then?
Link Posted: 6/6/2009 11:47:14 AM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
Your 6920 is not "Blued."

It is Parkerized.

Nothing to worry about.

ETA: Blueing is a very shiny, polished black finish used on old revolvers and hunting rifles.

Just to clarify for the OP's peace of mind, the steel components of his new pony (like the barrel and front sight base) are parkerized. The aluminum components (like the upper and lower receivers) are hard coat anodized per the TDP. Neither finish will be harmed by CLP

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Link Posted: 6/6/2009 11:51:39 AM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
So how do you guys clean dirt/dust off then?


IF YOU READ MY REPLY I SAY I CLEAN DIRT OF ETC!!!

#7 reply I think

I clean dirt off

if its so much I would use a hose

I use BF/CLP
Brake cleaner to spray out  Barrel/chamber / carrier/ bolt
Makes for a Faster clean

Black RAG will help you lint/dust  

Buy a manual it will help you out!

Link Posted: 6/6/2009 12:29:19 PM EDT
[#16]
Link Posted: 6/6/2009 12:39:00 PM EDT
[#17]
QUIB  change AKA to Mr Clean

Link Posted: 6/6/2009 1:00:25 PM EDT
[#18]
Whoever wrote that is an idiot.  CLP will not harm blueing, parkerizing, anodizing, or stainless.  When it dries, CLP also leaves behind a film of protective additives which usually preserve my guns better than silicone.
Link Posted: 6/6/2009 1:03:38 PM EDT
[#19]
I use CLP on my blued firearms, revolvers and shotguns.  Have never had any problems, and this is the first that I have ever read about a problem.  Is this something that I should be avoiding?  The MSDS indicates that all the oils in CLP Are synthetics.
Link Posted: 6/6/2009 1:06:08 PM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
Whoever wrote that is an idiot.  CLP will not harm blueing, parkerizing, anodizing, or stainless.  When it dries, CLP also leaves behind a film of protective additives which usually preserve my guns better than silicone.


WROTE WHAT???
Link Posted: 6/6/2009 1:21:04 PM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Whoever wrote that is an idiot.  CLP will not harm blueing, parkerizing, anodizing, or stainless.  When it dries, CLP also leaves behind a film of protective additives which usually preserve my guns better than silicone.


WROTE WHAT???


"Silicone oil helps protect your gun from moisture and gives it a shiny clean appearance. You should never use petroleum or mineral based oils on the exterior of your gun as these can damage the "bluing" on your gun (that's what makes it look black). Bluing is a form of rust and the use of such oils remove the bluing and can result in normal rust forming if the oil dries up. Should you need to restore the bluing on your barrel or metalwork you can get bluing compounds to do this. "

OP says he heard this somewhere.
Link Posted: 6/6/2009 1:26:12 PM EDT
[#22]
I would love to see your "blued" Colt AR15.  
Link Posted: 6/6/2009 2:39:21 PM EDT
[#23]
Quoted:
I would love to see your "blued" Colt AR15.  



I used cold blue for touch up works GREAT !!

Link Posted: 6/6/2009 2:40:53 PM EDT
[#24]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Whoever wrote that is an idiot.  CLP will not harm blueing, parkerizing, anodizing, or stainless.  When it dries, CLP also leaves behind a film of protective additives which usually preserve my guns better than silicone.


WROTE WHAT???


"Silicone oil helps protect your gun from moisture and gives it a shiny clean appearance. You should never use petroleum or mineral based oils on the exterior of your gun as these can damage the "bluing" on your gun (that's what makes it look black). Bluing is a form of rust and the use of such oils remove the bluing and can result in normal rust forming if the oil dries up. Should you need to restore the bluing on your barrel or metalwork you can get bluing compounds to do this. "

OP says he heard this somewhere.



Thats waz what I was thinking he was talking about
But didnt know  if someone wrote a article in a mag
Link Posted: 6/6/2009 2:40:54 PM EDT
[#25]
DOUBLE TAP
Link Posted: 6/6/2009 6:16:19 PM EDT
[#26]
I live in South FL...A hot and humid climate...I've used Hoppes (petroleum based) on my blued exterior Winchester rifle since the late 1960's.  No problem with my “blued” rifle here...
Link Posted: 6/6/2009 6:29:07 PM EDT
[#27]
I've used Hoppes, Breakfree CLP, and Slip 2000 on my blued Dan Wesson revolver, never had a problem.

I agree, whoever wrote that has no clue.
Link Posted: 6/6/2009 6:37:58 PM EDT
[#28]
Quoted:
So I sprayed down my new Colt 6920 with CLP and wiped down the exterior with it.  Then I read this:

Silicone oil helps protect your gun from moisture and gives it a shiny clean appearance. You should never use petroleum or mineral based oils on the exterior of your gun as these can damage the "bluing" on your gun (that's what makes it look black). Bluing is a form of rust and the use of such oils remove the bluing and can result in normal rust forming if the oil dries up. Should you need to restore the bluing on your barrel or metalwork you can get bluing compounds to do this.

/snip


It almost seems like something you'd read on the back of a silicone wipe package.
Link Posted: 6/6/2009 7:29:47 PM EDT
[#29]
Quoted:
I live in South FL...A hot and humid climate...I've used Hoppes (petroleum based) on my blued exterior Winchester rifle since the late 1960's.  No problem with my “blued” rifle here...




are you near Punta Gorda?

Link Posted: 6/7/2009 4:06:03 AM EDT
[#30]
CLP is what we used in the Army and it is still what i prefer!
Link Posted: 6/7/2009 4:27:04 AM EDT
[#31]
Link Posted: 6/7/2009 5:23:35 AM EDT
[#32]
Quoted:
Quoted:
CLP is what we used in the Army and it is still what i prefer!





QUIB
do you order CLP online ?

If so can you point me to a good dealer

I cant find any BF CLP
ONLY TIN CAN TYPE

wich I dont like
Link Posted: 6/7/2009 5:40:55 AM EDT
[#33]
I get my CLP from Brownells -order it online
Link Posted: 6/7/2009 5:44:10 AM EDT
[#34]
Link Posted: 6/7/2009 5:50:48 AM EDT
[#35]
CLP is fine.
Link Posted: 6/7/2009 5:53:14 AM EDT
[#36]
Quoted:
I locally purchase my BF-CLP and BF-LP.

This might help in locating BF.........http://www.break-free.com/?location=/global/dealer.asp



wanted to help / buy from a AR15.com Dealer

But thanks for your help

Link Posted: 6/7/2009 5:53:16 AM EDT
[#37]
Quoted:
I locally purchase my BF-CLP and BF-LP.

This might help in locating BF.........http://www.break-free.com/?location=/global/dealer.asp



wanted to help / buy from a AR15.com Dealer

But thanks for your help

Link Posted: 6/7/2009 5:57:58 AM EDT
[#38]
Link Posted: 6/7/2009 6:33:29 AM EDT
[#39]
I use diluted simple green to clean the BCG's on my ARs.  I rinse them and then coat them with clp when done.  What problems can the Simple Green cause?  

I don't use it on any other parts, just the BCG.


Link Posted: 6/7/2009 6:34:36 AM EDT
[#40]
Quoted:
So how do you guys clean dirt/dust off then?


Garden hose is what I use.

That's rarely even needed though.
Link Posted: 6/7/2009 6:36:03 AM EDT
[#41]
Quoted:
CLP is what we used in the Army and it is still what i prefer!


CLP is great.  But there's no need (in my opinion) to rub it all over the outside like armorall.
Link Posted: 6/7/2009 6:37:47 AM EDT
[#42]
Quoted:
Quoted:
So how do you guys clean dirt/dust off then?


Garden hose is what I use.

That's rarely even needed though.



+1

if its muddy

I told him in my original reply
That I clean only when  the outside alum is dirty

Really no need to CLP alum

Unless you like to play with your weapon and take pics
Link Posted: 6/7/2009 6:37:48 AM EDT
[#43]
Link Posted: 6/7/2009 6:41:09 AM EDT
[#44]
Quoted:
Quoted:
CLP is what we used in the Army and it is still what i prefer!


CLP is great.  But there's no need (in my opinion) to rub it all over the outside like armorall.



I know your talking about the alum rec up/low right

I do clean lube metal /steel parts like FA, Barrel, castle etc!  only when needed

once  a year for a weapon that just sits 90% of the time

Link Posted: 6/7/2009 6:45:44 AM EDT
[#45]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
So how do you guys clean dirt/dust off then?


Garden hose is what I use.


I might try this.

Do you have a personal preference when it comes to hose nozzles?



I use my thumb myself

I have a pressure thingy I use to clean my drive  


If My M4 was caked with sand mud I see mothing wrong with WATER
as long as you clean it afterwards


I use to do this with the OLD copper wash 7.62x 39mm

soak my barrel in the bath tub hot soapy water
Link Posted: 6/7/2009 6:52:47 AM EDT
[#46]
Link Posted: 6/7/2009 6:54:30 AM EDT
[#47]
Link Posted: 6/7/2009 6:58:58 AM EDT
[#48]
I think 80% of guys here KNOW you clean your weapon pretty much by the BOOK
add you have good tips also


What I DONT and Never will

Is run my Carrier/Bolt Dripping Wet

I never had a problem with doing as my manual states

And I have fired alot of ammo in 1 session

More than I will ever fire for protection
Link Posted: 6/7/2009 7:02:19 AM EDT
[#49]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Really no need to CLP alum

Unless you like to play with your weapon and take pics





Like I said in the above first reply to Topic

unless its dirty / mud /dust etc!

Then yes I do it





There are guys  who clean there AR and when the shine comes off they add more CLP

This is what Im refering to



In no way am I talking or even think of you QUIB

Quib you left out unless its dirty when you quoted me

Link Posted: 6/7/2009 7:24:45 AM EDT
[#50]
Quoted:
I use diluted simple green to clean the BCG's on my ARs.  I rinse them and then coat them with clp when done.  What problems can the Simple Green cause?  

I don't use it on any other parts, just the BCG.




Simple Green will turn the upper/lower and any aluminum part a shade of purple.
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