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Posted: 9/17/2004 4:31:35 PM EDT
[#1]
buy 3 bushmasters
and modify to your will (legally) |
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Posted: 9/17/2004 6:19:34 PM EDT
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Quality, not quantity. Do you have any opinions, for or against, on the Knights SR-15?
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Posted: 9/17/2004 7:56:37 PM EDT
[#3]
MSTN
Contact them about a LMT upper/lower or the MRP upper. They will custom build you whatever you want, and use primo parts. And you have enough $ to play there  I don't... 
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Posted: 9/17/2004 7:57:54 PM EDT
[#4]
If money were no object that's the route I would go. |
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Posted: 9/18/2004 2:18:20 AM EDT
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I would get a special homedefense build- a LMT 10.5" upper with a LaRue
Railsystem and all the nice add ons (SureFire, Aimpoint, VF grip) from C4iGrant and then add a quality silencer! With money no object, the paperwork involved shouldn't be too! But most important invest in several classes tought by Pat Rogers or Jeff Gonzales- maybe at Gunsite! A gun is only as good as the shooter, you can wring out your equipment there and professional training is not only a huuuge knowledge boost, but also great fun!! 
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Posted: 9/18/2004 4:13:30 AM EDT
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The Knight SR series are nice, however, I would look at a JP Enterprises CTR-02? It can be either a "race" or "tactical" carbine, comes with all the bells and whistles of custom built rifle for about $2,300. I could only afford the upper
 JP site is http://www.jprifles.com
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Posted: 9/18/2004 4:46:50 AM EDT
[#7]
 more realistically may be....  Bushy lower LMT M4 upper DD 7.0 TD fore grip LMT Crane stock ACOG TA31 ARMS 40L BUIS retail on nearly everything pushes it over $3,250 |
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Posted: 9/18/2004 5:44:48 AM EDT
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All can be had off of our very own EE for $2409 The only thing not listed and not included above is a bolt/carrier which can be had for $100, bringing you to $2509. If you go with the LMT MRP instead you deduct the $495 for the upper and the $247 for the DD 7.0, and add $1289 for the MRP bringing you to $3056. So there ya go. Right nearly at $3k and it INCLUDES optics. Everything you need to the the state-of-the-art badass. |
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Posted: 9/18/2004 6:38:49 AM EDT
[#9]
$3250 and no light. 
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Posted: 9/18/2004 7:05:42 AM EDT
[#10]
First off, I'd not get a 5.56x45mm, that's for sure. Second off, I'd build it my-self and save a few bucks even if money wasn't a problem. Check into either a 6.8Rem.SPC or a .300Fireball(that's the one that I built) and go from there. You can even take a look at the 6.5 Grendel if you'd like but for an "Ultimate" it'd for damn sure not be a 5.56mm
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Posted: 9/18/2004 7:15:46 AM EDT
[#11]
No kidding!
But can you say $4,000? ouch! Norman74 was close, except my Bushmaster lower wasn't $209, it was more like $900, but included a whole rifle, and the DD 7.0 was $300 plus $60 to install it. But he's right- a little research, a little more patience, and you too could have a great set up for $3K or less............. |
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Posted: 9/18/2004 7:16:03 AM EDT
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My next carbine will have a 16" LMT upper and the Troy MRF-MX. I will have the FSB swapped with low profile gas block so it will fit under the MRF-MX and use Troy front and rear BUIS. Optics will be either an ACOG TA31 or an EOTech 552 with the 3.75x magnifier lens. Light will be a Surefire M952XM or the new Scout Light. I will also use a Vltor Clubfoot stock, Magpul modular grip, TD rail covers and no vertical grip.
It's the poormans MRP  and since I will not be needing to swap the barrels it will be just fine!In fact Troy has great pic of this setup.  
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Posted: 9/18/2004 7:16:57 AM EDT
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I can't imagine building a serious carbine that is limited to weirdo ammo. If the SHTF, good luck feeding that exotic freak. |
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Posted: 9/18/2004 7:32:48 AM EDT
[#14]
DITTO |
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Posted: 9/18/2004 7:34:54 AM EDT
[#15]
Quit trying to be practical and realistic....we're talking about the Ultimate Reality has no bearing on this 
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Posted: 9/18/2004 7:43:24 AM EDT
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Not to mention trying to feed that sucker 500 rds twice a week, as he said initially. Doc |
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Posted: 9/18/2004 7:54:09 AM EDT
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Thanks for all the ideas. I see that I need to do a LOT more research.
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Posted: 9/18/2004 7:55:34 AM EDT
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well, if we're free to change calibers. I already have the ultimate
www.dsarms.com/item-detail.cfm?ID=SA58C&storeid=1ℑ=sa58carbine.gif |
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Posted: 9/18/2004 7:56:04 AM EDT
[#19]
no research required, I already did it for ya!
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Posted: 9/18/2004 7:57:23 AM EDT
[#20]
I'm curious why the flipup front. If you use a magnified optic you're not going to see the FSB anyway. |
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Posted: 9/18/2004 8:30:44 AM EDT
[#21]
Very nice set up. It's similar to mine. However, can I make one small suggestion? To get the full use of your ACOGs 800 meter reticle. You might want to add a Harris bi-pod on a ARMs throw lever mount. And to make room for the bi-pod you could change the DD7.0 to a DD9.5 FSP. |
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Posted: 9/18/2004 9:14:14 AM EDT
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I have about $1400.00 in mine including my Aimpoint, surefire weapons-light, and OTAL laser. I used a Stag arms lower and RRA upper with a 14.5 in. (now it is at least) barrel and a phantom 5C2 flash hider. I have a RRA collapsable M4 stock and Magpul rail panels YHM 2 piece rail system and a KAC 300M BUIS. I have the laser for reflex fire in case my aimpoint fogs out, and I have the BUIS in case I have a total everything malfunction. For me it is perfect.
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Posted: 9/18/2004 9:42:09 AM EDT
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This is what I think is the ultimate carbine....
KevinB's, 16" midlength, URX2 carbine. With a Magpul stock and an ACOG.   That weapon is the Heat. I would rather have a URX2 than an LMT MRP so I could remove the bottom portion for oiling and cleaning... rather than having to pull the barrel. (I would prefer to have that with a gas piston.... but that is another arguement ENTIRELY... I don't want to get into right now.... again) Stainless |
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Posted: 9/18/2004 10:36:30 AM EDT
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It is still my ideal ultimate carbine...
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Posted: 9/18/2004 11:38:25 AM EDT
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KevinB: Is that a midlength gas system? What type of barrel is it? Was a Knight's upper receiver used?
If there is a link to the specs on this carbine, that would work too. Thanks. |
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Posted: 9/18/2004 11:40:06 AM EDT
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Oops - duplicate post.
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Posted: 9/18/2004 11:44:25 AM EDT
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I normally like the standard FSB but I want to try something different this time around. I'm still tossing around the idea of a mid-length with a standard FSB but I'm a picky bastard and it's hard to find a 4150, 1/7 mid-length barrel...
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Posted: 9/18/2004 11:48:07 AM EDT
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I don't think it's 4150, but FYI www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=7&f=121&t=207911 |
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Posted: 9/18/2004 1:12:13 PM EDT
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Yojimbo, I've looked high and low and I am aware of no one doing a 4150 middy, especially in 1/7 twist. If you are aware of someone who is making this, please let me know. As noted above, however, I am attempting to close out my 1:7 middy group buy right now. GIFFMANN |
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Posted: 9/18/2004 3:01:19 PM EDT
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In a SHTF all I need is enough ammo to get what I need then I'll used it and put mine up. Also, you're talking "Ultimate" not "Practical" so make up your mind. If you want a "Practical" just build an M4gery in 5.56mm and be done with it. |
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Posted: 9/18/2004 3:58:25 PM EDT
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Norman74 and Giffman,
Thanks for the heads up but I've got my heart set on an LMT upper. That still sounds like a nice barrel in Giffman's group buy. There's just too many goodies and not enough money...  I don't know anyone offering a 16" midlength upper with a 4150, 1/7, chrome lined barrel with a true M4 barrel extension and extended feed ramps. Though it would be nice if LMT made a 16" upper without the M203 cuts, I'd get a low profile gas block and mount the FSB where it would be on a mid-length. Just my opinion, but I wouldn't mind giving up a true mid-length gas system for the other features I want... |
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Posted: 9/18/2004 3:58:42 PM EDT
[#32]
For many "ultimate" is "practical"; myself included. |
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