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Link Posted: 10/16/2013 11:50:25 AM EST
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Originally Posted By 9divdoc:

Yeah there should be some limits on these things
-like barrels must be 14.5 or 14.7
-no plastic lowers
-pics must be on scale with wt showing
-no helium balloons tied to upper when on the scale
-no optics
-BCG CH must be in upper

Stuff like that
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Originally Posted By 9divdoc:
Originally Posted By tct1000:
Cool thread OP, I wonder how long until pics of 6.5lbs then 7lbs and finally +8lbs rifles show up and this turns into a full blown post whatever ar you want thread....

Yeah there should be some limits on these things
-like barrels must be 14.5 or 14.7
-no plastic lowers
-pics must be on scale with wt showing
-no helium balloons tied to upper when on the scale
-no optics
-BCG CH must be in upper

Stuff like that


Not seeing an issue with any of the reqs you posted, why do anyone care if there is an optic or not, if it's an SBR or not, if it's made from traditional materials or not ...  if it can make weight?
Link Posted: 10/16/2013 12:03:15 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/16/2013 12:05:03 PM EST by Bretshooter]
I disagree with no plastic receivers.  First, it takes GWACS Armory off of the table.  Secondly, it removes innovation.  Eventually a plastic stand alone receiver will be durable enough to compare with aluminum.   And as for the current ones, not every one is building combat worthy guns.  Some just hunt, backpack etc.

Hell, if it has an optic, and still weighs under 6, why not?  An RMR weighs less than an MBUS set, doesn't it?
Link Posted: 10/16/2013 12:19:36 PM EST
Hey it was just a thought ya know....

My thinking on this kind of exercise is not going for the lightest possible but the lightest possible grounded in function first.
That really wasn't the purpose of this thread I know...just my thoughts on it...

I guess I would rather have a "filthy 14" than the lightest possible rifle every made if it can't hack it like the "filthy 14"

And no I do not nor have I ever owned a plastic rifle (though as a kid my buddy had a Nylon 66 and we shot the heck outta that) ..do have a bunch of Glocks though.
Link Posted: 10/16/2013 12:25:52 PM EST
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Originally Posted By PursuitSS:


Keep this in mind, when Mag Tactical releases their new upper receiver and if Josh would install his aluminum carrier he will be BELOW THREE POUNDS!!!

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Originally Posted By PursuitSS:
Originally Posted By GreenPlease:
WOW that's light!


Keep this in mind, when Mag Tactical releases their new upper receiver and if Josh would install his aluminum carrier he will be BELOW THREE POUNDS!!!



When did they announce this? Do they have any estimated release dates?
Link Posted: 10/16/2013 12:37:37 PM EST
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When did they announce this? Do they have any estimated release dates?
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Originally Posted By PursuitSS:
Originally Posted By GreenPlease:
WOW that's light!


Keep this in mind, when Mag Tactical releases their new upper receiver and if Josh would install his aluminum carrier he will be BELOW THREE POUNDS!!!



When did they announce this? Do they have any estimated release dates?


Should be out soon according to their FB page.  The FA model weighs 4 7/8 ounces stripped.  They might be making a non-FA model as well.  If they do I'm going with that.
Link Posted: 10/16/2013 1:37:59 PM EST
I have been calling them at least once a month BEGGING them to offer it in a non-forward assist version.
Link Posted: 10/16/2013 1:42:19 PM EST
The thing that would REALLY help is if some manufacturer would offer a thinner upper and lower manufactured out of Scandium Alloy. You could reduce size and still retain strength. That also would make for a nice carrier
Link Posted: 10/16/2013 4:08:44 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 9divdoc:
Hey it was just a thought ya know....

My thinking on this kind of exercise is not going for the lightest possible but the lightest possible grounded in function first.
That really wasn't the purpose of this thread I know...just my thoughts on it...

I guess I would rather have a "filthy 14" than the lightest possible rifle every made if it can't hack it like the "filthy 14"

And no I do not nor have I ever owned a plastic rifle (though as a kid my buddy had a Nylon 66 and we shot the heck outta that) ..do have a bunch of Glocks though.
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I think grounded in function is a great idea but don't completely agree with your list.  I do agree these should be full length non-NFA rifles and leave those for another thread.  I think optics should be allowed as well because that could open up the possibility for lighter mounting solutions.
Link Posted: 10/16/2013 4:52:54 PM EST
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The thing that would REALLY help is if some manufacturer would offer a thinner upper and lower manufactured out of Scandium Alloy. You could reduce size and still retain strength. That also would make for a nice carrier
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I wonder if it would be lighter than the Magnesium one?
Link Posted: 10/17/2013 12:44:12 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/17/2013 12:47:33 AM EST by eodinert]
We need classes, like fighters.  NFA and non-NFA.  Otherwise, its a race to see who has the shortest barrel.

I really hate plastic lowers (except the cav/gwacs), and would never use one myself.  My rule is 'no crap parts', but that's subjective, and would be hard to define.  I say the rifle has to fire 1,000 verified rounds without blowing up to be 'king'
Link Posted: 10/17/2013 2:22:01 AM EST
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Same here. Ultimate lightweight 22lr trainer material right there.
Link Posted: 10/17/2013 4:40:50 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/21/2013 3:50:06 AM EST by GlockSlap]
It's a bit heavy...for a .308!!


Link Posted: 10/17/2013 7:12:38 AM EST
Oh shit, now I've got to start on a light weight .308
Link Posted: 10/20/2013 5:58:51 AM EST
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Originally Posted By eodinert:
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It wasn't easy
Some parts took months to find, and then months to get...
There is still probably another 1/2 pound to dump but it would involve cutting, welding and drilling-and since this is primarily a hunting stick first I wanted 18 inch .308 ballistics.
Link Posted: 10/20/2013 5:04:20 PM EST
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Wow, that really is amazing for a .308 build. What's the recoil like on that beast? I'd imagine that the follow up shots will be a little farther apart.
Link Posted: 10/20/2013 7:27:13 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 9divdoc:

Yeah there should be some limits on these things
-like barrels must be 14.5 or 14.7
-no plastic lowers
-pics must be on scale with wt showing
-no helium balloons tied to upper when on the scale
-no optics
-BCG CH must be in upper

Stuff like that
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Originally Posted By 9divdoc:
Originally Posted By tct1000:
Cool thread OP, I wonder how long until pics of 6.5lbs then 7lbs and finally +8lbs rifles show up and this turns into a full blown post whatever ar you want thread....

Yeah there should be some limits on these things
-like barrels must be 14.5 or 14.7
-no plastic lowers
-pics must be on scale with wt showing
-no helium balloons tied to upper when on the scale
-no optics
-BCG CH must be in upper

Stuff like that



OP here...so the rules are...
SBR is ok
Plastic/magnesium/balsa wood lowers ok....as long as you have a rifle that will function correctly and fire a few thousand rounds without any issues.
The pic doesn't need to be on the scale...I trust you, but the weight should be included in the post.
No optics? The rifle needs some type of sighting system, and that should be included in the weight.
...and yeah, the weight is for the whole gun, BCG included...that was a joke, by the way...all the guns so far have had their innards.
...and the 7 and a half pound 308 is neat and all, but this thread is for rifles six pounds and under....don't know if I mentioned. Good stuff. Keep 'em coming.
Link Posted: 10/20/2013 7:34:33 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/20/2013 10:16:24 PM EST by 9divdoc]
Sounds fine....just waiting on my BCM KM10



Here is my place holder

With the Aimpoint off and a set of Magpul sights I am below 6lbs on this

I think with the Bushy super light wt cut down to 14.7, a A2 flash hider, BCM KM10,and maybe a Vortex Razor red dot I am going to
come in way below 6lbs
Link Posted: 10/20/2013 7:34:56 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/20/2013 7:35:18 PM EST by 9divdoc]
double tap
Link Posted: 10/20/2013 8:28:05 PM EST
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Originally Posted By L119188:



OP here...so the rules are...
SBR is ok
Plastic/magnesium/balsa wood lowers ok....as long as you have a rifle that will function correctly and fire a few thousand rounds without any issues.
The pic doesn't need to be on the scale...I trust you, but the weight should be included in the post.
No optics? The rifle needs some type of sighting system, and that should be included in the weight.
...and yeah, the weight is for the whole gun, BCG included...that was a joke, by the way...all the guns so far have had their innards.
...and the 7 and a half pound 308 is neat and all, but this thread is for rifles six pounds and under....don't know if I mentioned. Good stuff. Keep 'em coming.
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Originally Posted By L119188:
Originally Posted By 9divdoc:
Originally Posted By tct1000:
Cool thread OP, I wonder how long until pics of 6.5lbs then 7lbs and finally +8lbs rifles show up and this turns into a full blown post whatever ar you want thread....

Yeah there should be some limits on these things
-like barrels must be 14.5 or 14.7
-no plastic lowers
-pics must be on scale with wt showing
-no helium balloons tied to upper when on the scale
-no optics
-BCG CH must be in upper

Stuff like that



OP here...so the rules are...
SBR is ok
Plastic/magnesium/balsa wood lowers ok....as long as you have a rifle that will function correctly and fire a few thousand rounds without any issues.
The pic doesn't need to be on the scale...I trust you, but the weight should be included in the post.
No optics? The rifle needs some type of sighting system, and that should be included in the weight.
...and yeah, the weight is for the whole gun, BCG included...that was a joke, by the way...all the guns so far have had their innards.
...and the 7 and a half pound 308 is neat and all, but this thread is for rifles six pounds and under....don't know if I mentioned. Good stuff. Keep 'em coming.


But no one is going to top Josh Aston, but at least he can set the bar
Link Posted: 10/21/2013 2:02:50 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/21/2013 3:23:59 AM EST by eodinert]
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Originally Posted By L119188:


OP here...so the rules are...

SBR is ok, but someone is going to come a long with a rifle with heavier components and a shorter barrel, and have a lighter rifle.
Plastic/magnesium/balsa wood lowers ok....but you're a punk if you use a Carbon 15, NFA, Plum Crazy, or any other shit lower.
The pic doesn't need to be on the scale...No, wait, yes it does.
No optics? The rifle needs some type of sighting system, and that should be included in the weight.
...and the 7 and a half pound 308 is neat and all, but .308 rifles are in a different class, like SBRs

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Fixed it for you

Classes:
Unlimited 5.56 (Including SBR)
Title I 5.56
308 title I
Link Posted: 10/21/2013 8:26:52 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/21/2013 8:29:07 AM EST by jukeboxx13]
Great thread but sadly no one has posted a good HD setup with optic and weapon light.






Reason why I am interested is for building one for my wife.







ETA: I guess you dont allow optics, which is fine since I doubt a HD setup could weigh 6 pounds with one.

 
Link Posted: 10/21/2013 9:24:41 AM EST
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Originally Posted By jukeboxx13:
Great thread but sadly no one has posted a good HD setup with optic and weapon light.

Reason why I am interested is for building one for my wife.

ETA: I guess you dont allow optics, which is fine since I doubt a HD setup could weigh 6 pounds with one.
 
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Actually optics are required in this thread

If you go with something like an Trijicon RMR, Vortex Razor Red Dot, Doctor,or Leupy Delta Point you can keep the wt quite low.
same if you go with a Surefire,Streamlight or Thorn tail keymod for a light..

Once BCM comes out with their KM10 and KM13 (7.5 OZ with barrel nut) rails keeping a 14.5 under 6lbs should be pretty easy actually
Link Posted: 10/21/2013 9:27:26 AM EST
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Originally Posted By 9divdoc:
Once BCM comes out with their KM10 and KM13 (7.5 OZ with barrel nut) rails keeping a 14.5 under 6lbs should be pretty easy actually
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The Clark carbon fiber is still an ounce and a half lighter than the KM13.
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Originally Posted By 9divdoc:
Actually optics are required in this thread



If you go with something like an Trijicon RMR, Vortex Razor Red Dot, Doctor,or Leupy Delta Point you can keep the wt quite low.

same if you go with a Surefire,Streamlight or Thorn tail keymod for a light..



Once BCM comes out with their KM10 and KM13 (7.5 OZ with barrel nut) rails keeping a 14.5 under 6lbs should be pretty easy actually
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Originally Posted By 9divdoc:



Originally Posted By jukeboxx13:

Great thread but sadly no one has posted a good HD setup with optic and weapon light.



Reason why I am interested is for building one for my wife.



ETA: I guess you dont allow optics, which is fine since I doubt a HD setup could weigh 6 pounds with one.

 




Actually optics are required in this thread



If you go with something like an Trijicon RMR, Vortex Razor Red Dot, Doctor,or Leupy Delta Point you can keep the wt quite low.

same if you go with a Surefire,Streamlight or Thorn tail keymod for a light..



Once BCM comes out with their KM10 and KM13 (7.5 OZ with barrel nut) rails keeping a 14.5 under 6lbs should be pretty easy actually
Looking forward to see some, and the smallest optic I will go is a Micro Aimpoint.

 
Link Posted: 10/21/2013 9:41:21 AM EST

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The Clark carbon fiber is still an ounce and a half lighter than the KM13.
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Originally Posted By JoshAston:



Originally Posted By 9divdoc:

Once BCM comes out with their KM10 and KM13 (7.5 OZ with barrel nut) rails keeping a 14.5 under 6lbs should be pretty easy actually




The Clark carbon fiber is still an ounce and a half lighter than the KM13.
Yea, but how do you mount a light to it?

 
Link Posted: 10/21/2013 9:44:24 AM EST
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Originally Posted By jukeboxx13:
Looking forward to see some, and the smallest optic I will go is a Micro Aimpoint.  
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Originally Posted By jukeboxx13:
Originally Posted By 9divdoc:
Originally Posted By jukeboxx13:
Great thread but sadly no one has posted a good HD setup with optic and weapon light.

Reason why I am interested is for building one for my wife.

ETA: I guess you dont allow optics, which is fine since I doubt a HD setup could weigh 6 pounds with one.
 


Actually optics are required in this thread

If you go with something like an Trijicon RMR, Vortex Razor Red Dot, Doctor,or Leupy Delta Point you can keep the wt quite low.
same if you go with a Surefire,Streamlight or Thorn tail keymod for a light..

Once BCM comes out with their KM10 and KM13 (7.5 OZ with barrel nut) rails keeping a 14.5 under 6lbs should be pretty easy actually
Looking forward to see some, and the smallest optic I will go is a Micro Aimpoint.  


With the micro Aimpoint on my wife's carbine I am at 6lbs 4oz looking at a Haley keymod Thorn Tail Insight light right now.

With a Bushy super light 14.7 barrel a BCM KM10 or KM13 a GI flash hider I am pretty sure I can have the Micro & the light and still
be under 6lbs...


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Originally Posted By 9divdoc:
With the micro Aimpoint on my wife's carbine I am at 6lbs 4oz looking at a Haley keymod Thorn Tail Insight light right now.





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Originally Posted By 9divdoc:



Originally Posted By jukeboxx13:


Originally Posted By 9divdoc:


Originally Posted By jukeboxx13:

Great thread but sadly no one has posted a good HD setup with optic and weapon light.



Reason why I am interested is for building one for my wife.



ETA: I guess you dont allow optics, which is fine since I doubt a HD setup could weigh 6 pounds with one.

 




Actually optics are required in this thread



If you go with something like an Trijicon RMR, Vortex Razor Red Dot, Doctor,or Leupy Delta Point you can keep the wt quite low.

same if you go with a Surefire,Streamlight or Thorn tail keymod for a light..



Once BCM comes out with their KM10 and KM13 (7.5 OZ with barrel nut) rails keeping a 14.5 under 6lbs should be pretty easy actually
Looking forward to see some, and the smallest optic I will go is a Micro Aimpoint.  




With the micro Aimpoint on my wife's carbine I am at 6lbs 4oz looking at a Haley keymod Thorn Tail Insight light right now.





Photo?

 
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Link Posted: 10/21/2013 10:38:59 AM EST
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Originally Posted By 9divdoc:
Originally Posted By jukeboxx13:
Originally Posted By 9divdoc:
Originally Posted By jukeboxx13:
Great thread but sadly no one has posted a good HD setup with optic and weapon light.

Reason why I am interested is for building one for my wife.

ETA: I guess you dont allow optics, which is fine since I doubt a HD setup could weigh 6 pounds with one.
 


Actually optics are required in this thread

If you go with something like an Trijicon RMR, Vortex Razor Red Dot, Doctor,or Leupy Delta Point you can keep the wt quite low.
same if you go with a Surefire,Streamlight or Thorn tail keymod for a light..

Once BCM comes out with their KM10 and KM13 (7.5 OZ with barrel nut) rails keeping a 14.5 under 6lbs should be pretty easy actually
Looking forward to see some, and the smallest optic I will go is a Micro Aimpoint.  


With the micro Aimpoint on my wife's carbine I am at 6lbs 4oz looking at a Haley keymod Thorn Tail Insight light right now.


Photo?  


url=http://s282.photobucket.com/user/9DivDoc/media/IMG_0002_zps7a73200f.jpg.html]
Right now this is at 6lb 2oz ...I could probably lighten the trigger group and the flash hider and hit 6lbs on the nose....decided to use parts I have laying around and build another lighter wt version as soon as BCM gets their new KM rail out.
Link Posted: 10/21/2013 10:45:54 AM EST
Nice, and a CTR stock should lighten it up some more.



I think I"ll do a similar build for my wife.
Link Posted: 10/21/2013 10:47:08 AM EST
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Originally Posted By jukeboxx13:
Nice, and a CTR stock should lighten it up some more.

I think I"ll do a similar build for my wife.
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MOE stock, ain't nobody got time for extra ounces of the lock tab.
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Awesome table you have there.

Rifle ain't bad either, LOL
Link Posted: 10/21/2013 11:03:48 AM EST
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Specs?

Guesses redacted.
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Originally Posted By jukeboxx13:
Nice, and a CTR stock should lighten it up some more.

I think I"ll do a similar build for my wife.
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The CTR comes in at 9.2 oz my IMOD is at 9.5 oz

My wife however likes the IMOD better than the CTR due to the cheek rest area

Link Posted: 10/21/2013 11:15:18 AM EST
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http://i955.photobucket.com/albums/ae35/txshotguns/B4DEA9C9-CF4F-482F-841F-E9B0020564AE-2253-000002CB83791C32_zps6d1d8c4a.jpg
Specs?

I'm guessing:

14.5" midlength lightweight barrel with pinned vortex
BCM 10" keymod rail
Aimpoint micro
Vltor Imod stock
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Currently its wearing an NSR 11 (the BCM KM13 or MK10 will shave some oz's off)
Noveske 14.5 Skinny N4 (same barrel on Thunder Ranch edition) (Bushmaster Super Light profile will shave some Oz's off - I think)
BCM upper & lower (A polymer lower and an upper with no FA or brass deflector would be lighter)
Gunfighter Mod4 (medium) (1.1 oz same as GI)
Aimpoint micro,Tango Down covers, LaRue mount (HK mount) (I could go with an RMR or Vortex Razor red dot and shave a few more oz off) -Magpul flip up sights lighter still-
VLTOR IMOD (the CTR MOE would be a few oz lighter)
Magpul KGrip
Vortex FH (GI flash hider is 2.2 oz the Vortex is 2.9 oz)
Geissele SD-C (the GI trigger group is probably lighter but not sure if it would be lighter than the Geissele curved trigger groups or the ACT?)
BAD levers (GI should be a tiny bit lighter?)
BAD front pivot pin (GI is probably unnoticeably lighter)
Magpul polymer trigger guard
Link Posted: 10/21/2013 11:25:17 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/21/2013 11:30:20 AM EST by gtfoxy]



This thread got me wondering.

Many people have said my rifle felt pretty light, so I decided to see exactly. 6.0lbs on the money with irons.

6.8spc 18" SS
All MOE furniture.

Scope & QD mount bring it to 7.0lbs
Link Posted: 10/21/2013 11:35:40 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/21/2013 11:36:15 AM EST by 9divdoc]
Yep Josh's rifle... thats pretty much gonna be in 1st place forever

Everybody else is just jockeying around for 2nd place
Link Posted: 10/21/2013 11:35:44 AM EST
Thanks, 9divdoc.
Link Posted: 10/21/2013 11:39:25 AM EST
A few random thoughts:

We ALL need to keep pressure on Mag Tactical to offer their upcoming upper receiver without a forward assist or brass deflector!
We might ask them to branch out into Magnesium Pivot & Takedown pins also Safety Selectors
Mc Master Carr has aluminum hex head cap screws in the correct size for the pistol grip screws (already using them )

And I'll throw this barrel profile out for your thoughts:

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The CTR comes in at 9.2 oz my IMOD is at 9.5 oz



My wife however likes the IMOD better than the CTR due to the cheek rest area



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Originally Posted By jukeboxx13:

Nice, and a CTR stock should lighten it up some more.



I think I"ll do a similar build for my wife.





The CTR comes in at 9.2 oz my IMOD is at 9.5 oz



My wife however likes the IMOD better than the CTR due to the cheek rest area



MOE the to lose 1 ounce and I don't really like those cheek rest stocks like the IMOD.

 
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MOE the to lose 1 ounce and I don't really like those cheek rest stocks like the IMOD.  
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Originally Posted By 9divdoc:
Originally Posted By jukeboxx13:
Nice, and a CTR stock should lighten it up some more.

I think I"ll do a similar build for my wife.


The CTR comes in at 9.2 oz my IMOD is at 9.5 oz

My wife however likes the IMOD better than the CTR due to the cheek rest area

MOE the to lose 1 ounce and I don't really like those cheek rest stocks like the IMOD.  


Yeah but remember its not for you its for your wife
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Originally Posted By PursuitSS:
A few random thoughts:

We ALL need to keep pressure on Mag Tactical to offer their upcoming upper receiver without a forward assist or brass deflector!
We might ask them to branch out into Magnesium Pivot & Takedown pins also Safety Selectors
Mc Master Carr has aluminum hex head cap screws in the correct size for the pistol grip screws (already using them )

And I'll throw this barrel profile out for your thoughts:

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q125/PursuitSS/Post. ings%20photos/7473b699500b79860f2275ccc4258c51.jpg
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I have no qualms about no FA, but I'm leery of not having a deflector.  The pins/screws and selector are good ideas for the weight obsessed.  

As for the barrel, looks fine, my own plan involves an 11.5" with that profile.
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Got some ranier arms goodness today...

<a href="http://s553.photobucket.com/user/rsmcginnes/media/photo-6.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj397/rsmcginnes/photo-6.jpg</a>

Now all I have to do is figure out how to unglue that hand guard. :-/
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HOW!!!!!!!!

I am on their list.  I have not gotten a single email, for those uppers.

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HOW!!!!!!!!

I am on their list.  I have not gotten a single email, for those uppers.

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Got some ranier arms goodness today...

<a href="http://s553.photobucket.com/user/rsmcginnes/media/photo-6.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj397/rsmcginnes/photo-6.jpg</a>

Now all I have to do is figure out how to unglue that hand guard. :-/



HOW!!!!!!!!

I am on their list.  I have not gotten a single email, for those uppers.



Les Baer and Aero both offer the same upper.
Link Posted: 10/21/2013 1:38:02 PM EST
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Originally Posted By PursuitSS:
A few random thoughts:

We ALL need to keep pressure on Mag Tactical to offer their upcoming upper receiver without a forward assist or brass deflector!
We might ask them to branch out into Magnesium Pivot & Takedown pins also Safety Selectors
Mc Master Carr has aluminum hex head cap screws in the correct size for the pistol grip screws (already using them )

And I'll throw this barrel profile out for your thoughts:

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q125/PursuitSS/Postings%20photos/7473b699500b79860f2275ccc4258c51.jpg
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I don't know that I'd trust magnesium pins, maybe scandium.  

Noveske already has a safety with plastic levers.  Hera has their BAD knockoff that i think is aluminum, not sure about the body, but the levers are definitely not steel.

ETA: you could shorten the tapered portion of your barrel profile significantly and lose a bit of weight.
Link Posted: 10/21/2013 1:40:10 PM EST
I tried for months to get a price on 500 aero uppers without FA before giving up and talking to Rainier. Now they come to the party??
Link Posted: 10/21/2013 2:25:43 PM EST
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Originally Posted By L119188:


Damn! How'd you do that?
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Originally Posted By L119188:


Damn! How'd you do that?


Easy......There is no barrel installed yet.
Link Posted: 10/21/2013 2:47:12 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Russ4777:


Easy......There is no barrel installed yet.
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Originally Posted By L119188:


Damn! How'd you do that?


Easy......There is no barrel installed yet.


Actually there is.  That's a fully functional rifle.
Link Posted: 10/21/2013 3:13:01 PM EST
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Originally Posted By PursuitSS:
A few random thoughts:

We ALL need to keep pressure on Mag Tactical to offer their upcoming upper receiver without a forward assist or brass deflector!
We might ask them to branch out into Magnesium Pivot & Takedown pins also Safety Selectors
Mc Master Carr has aluminum hex head cap screws in the correct size for the pistol grip screws (already using them )

And I'll throw this barrel profile out for your thoughts:

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q125/PursuitSS/Postings%20photos/7473b699500b79860f2275ccc4258c51.jpg
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I really like your idea for the Magnesium Pivot and Takedowns pins/safety selectors etc... I'd have to have a brass deflector though!
Link Posted: 10/21/2013 3:41:13 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:
I tried for months to get a price on 500 aero uppers without FA before giving up and talking to Rainier. Now they come to the party??
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And they're cheaper than Les Baer and Rainier at only $95.
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