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Posted: 6/18/2016 12:15:08 AM EDT
I picked up my Troy GAU-5A/A today and wanted to share the unboxing photos for those of you who are curious how close they came to the real thing. While not perfect, I'm pretty happy with it and the package of extras. This model is what they call the pre-ban version. Price was $1,200 + shipping. Let me know if there's another picture or angle you'd like to see and I'll try to accommodate. If anyone has a line on a Singlepoint OEG scope and handle mount to go with it, please let me know.

I'm told I don't have enough posts here yet for my photos to show up in the thread, so here are the links to the album and individual pictures.

Imgur Album
http://imgur.com/a/u3AEn

Individual Imgur Pictures
http://imgur.com/4WUZ14k
http://imgur.com/RqPsiYD
http://imgur.com/gjN8CUe
http://imgur.com/wkfEkCN
http://imgur.com/ZVZpc55
http://imgur.com/hB5LCcJ
http://imgur.com/UL35vss
http://imgur.com/UBItvhR
http://imgur.com/6ws4m0j
http://imgur.com/frcm8H0
http://imgur.com/kmts4jQ
http://imgur.com/JyElHIO
http://imgur.com/iuwfT1E
http://imgur.com/y8Iz6Uz
http://imgur.com/Q62VKcY
http://imgur.com/Q62VKcY
http://imgur.com/GNouOm7
http://imgur.com/fHOOvKj
http://imgur.com/mQGydbN
http://imgur.com/jP9sWWe
http://imgur.com/pYzgcYW
http://imgur.com/uiQTZYi
http://imgur.com/fZO7nxx
http://imgur.com/uTWbdx9
http://imgur.com/Wvckb5R
http://imgur.com/i7a5HpC
http://imgur.com/drM9g5Z
http://imgur.com/lQCOxD6
http://imgur.com/3cPuhTE
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Link Posted: 6/18/2016 12:27:28 AM EDT
Very Nice, you should be pretty pleased with it !
Link Posted: 6/18/2016 12:31:11 AM EDT
she's a beaut Clark
Link Posted: 6/18/2016 12:31:52 AM EDT
Thanks for the photo help, RyJones!
Link Posted: 6/18/2016 12:33:58 AM EDT
Looks great!
Link Posted: 6/18/2016 12:42:39 AM EDT
Nice gat. To follow up, you CAN post photos - they just have to approved by Team Members before they will display. And you actually have to post the complete link to the photo, instead of just the URL to the imgur page. The actual link will end in .jpg
Link Posted: 6/18/2016 12:42:42 AM EDT
wow, exciting!! thx for sharing
Link Posted: 6/18/2016 12:49:02 AM EDT
It looks painted gray, is that correct?
Link Posted: 6/18/2016 1:03:24 AM EDT
It looks like they got most of the details correct, pretty nice! Is that a gray "spray-on" finish applied over black anodizing?
Link Posted: 6/18/2016 1:14:28 AM EDT
Hard to say about the gray color - I might need to look at it closer in the sunlight. The walls of the FCG housing are black but the magwell interior is gray. It might be that the black is the coated part. There is no indication of overspray nor wear due to scrapes/abrasion that might indicate a gray coating.
Link Posted: 6/18/2016 1:25:26 AM EDT
Looks good I cancelled mine when they told me the Troy logo was going on the mag well.{ I ordered wanting it without}...Took the money and bought a 65 date SP-1, Happy now but would have liked the Troy the way I wanted. Hey congrats and enjoy it. Better than bucks in the bank now.
Link Posted: 6/18/2016 1:44:01 AM EDT
Very nice, especially for an "off the rack" retro.
To my eyes, it looks to be sprayed with Norrell's over black anodizing (you can see some overspray in the magwell and some black is showing through where the port door pad is hitting the lower).
Link Posted: 6/18/2016 2:30:48 AM EDT
Pretty nice rifle. They really put in some effort to make a quality clone.
Link Posted: 6/18/2016 3:17:39 AM EDT
Very nice
Link Posted: 6/18/2016 4:03:59 AM EDT
Would you mind posting a picture of the illustrations in the blue manual? The front cover has me a bit curious...
Link Posted: 6/18/2016 6:50:54 AM EDT
Looks great. Will need a range report in future.
Link Posted: 6/18/2016 7:23:01 AM EDT
what stock did they use? ESSENTIAL ARMS ? Is it powder coated or vinyl coated?



Link Posted: 6/18/2016 7:43:54 AM EDT
Did you purchase directly from Troy?

S/F

Al
Link Posted: 6/18/2016 8:40:47 AM EDT
That is a good looking carbine.
Link Posted: 6/18/2016 9:00:20 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By 57Octane:
Would you mind posting a picture of the illustrations in the blue manual? The front cover has me a bit curious...
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The blue book looks to be an exact copy of the original manual. I found one someone already scanned in and made public on a Google Drive. I would post the link but it's huge. Instead, Google
xm177E2 manual
and it's likely that your first result will be that scanned in version.

Troy did include one extra (loose) page at the back of the book describing sling installation. I've scanned that and added it to the original imgur album.
Link Posted: 6/18/2016 9:01:26 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By CATM-Al:
Did you purchase directly from Troy?
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Al
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Yes - they shipped to one of their local authorized dealers for pickup.
Link Posted: 6/18/2016 9:31:26 AM EDT
VERY nice

Going to get a period correct SINGLEPOINT sight?

Link Posted: 6/18/2016 10:06:28 AM EDT
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WOW! I AM jealous! That is not a bad price, especially for someone like me in Californistan who can not get an original SP1 Carbine because they are a felony here.
Link Posted: 6/18/2016 10:21:42 AM EDT
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The blue book looks to be an exact copy of the original manual. I found one someone already scanned in and made public on a Google Drive. I would post the link but it's huge. Instead, Google
xm177E2 manual
and it's likely that your first result will be that scanned in version.

Troy did include one extra (loose) page at the back of the book describing sling installation. I've scanned that and added it to the original imgur album.
http://i.imgur.com/csXoiFD.png
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Originally Posted By mgchuck:
Originally Posted By 57Octane:
Would you mind posting a picture of the illustrations in the blue manual? The front cover has me a bit curious...


The blue book looks to be an exact copy of the original manual. I found one someone already scanned in and made public on a Google Drive. I would post the link but it's huge. Instead, Google
xm177E2 manual
and it's likely that your first result will be that scanned in version.

Troy did include one extra (loose) page at the back of the book describing sling installation. I've scanned that and added it to the original imgur album.
http://i.imgur.com/csXoiFD.png


The reason I ask, is because I made that one. The shape of the 7's on the front cover are a dead give away. I was asking to see the illustrations because I wanted to make sure. I re-illustrated the entire manual to be more clear. The originals were pretty poorly made, mostly all photocopies. I forget who scanned it, but I gave him permission to post it on Google a few years ago. I guess it's making it's way around.

Really nice looking rifle though. They seem to have done their research on it.

Link Posted: 6/18/2016 11:14:38 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By 57Octane:


The reason I ask, is because I made that one. The shape of the 7's on the front cover are a dead give away. I was asking to see the illustrations because I wanted to make sure. I re-illustrated the entire manual to be more clear. The originals were pretty poorly made, mostly all photocopies. I forget who scanned it, but I gave him permission to post it on Google a few years ago. I guess it's making it's way around.

Really nice looking rifle though. They seem to have done their research on it.

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Originally Posted By 57Octane:
Originally Posted By mgchuck:
Originally Posted By 57Octane:
Would you mind posting a picture of the illustrations in the blue manual? The front cover has me a bit curious...


The blue book looks to be an exact copy of the original manual. I found one someone already scanned in and made public on a Google Drive. I would post the link but it's huge. Instead, Google
xm177E2 manual
and it's likely that your first result will be that scanned in version.

Troy did include one extra (loose) page at the back of the book describing sling installation. I've scanned that and added it to the original imgur album.
http://i.imgur.com/csXoiFD.png


The reason I ask, is because I made that one. The shape of the 7's on the front cover are a dead give away. I was asking to see the illustrations because I wanted to make sure. I re-illustrated the entire manual to be more clear. The originals were pretty poorly made, mostly all photocopies. I forget who scanned it, but I gave him permission to post it on Google a few years ago. I guess it's making it's way around.

Really nice looking rifle though. They seem to have done their research on it.

Looks exactly like the manual you did. No doubt this is a great deal for anyone who can't get all the parts or doesn't have the tools and patience to complete one. The price is pretty good, includes manuals and the sling.
Link Posted: 6/18/2016 11:26:35 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By 57Octane:


The reason I ask, is because I made that one. The shape of the 7's on the front cover are a dead give away. I was asking to see the illustrations because I wanted to make sure. I re-illustrated the entire manual to be more clear. The originals were pretty poorly made, mostly all photocopies. I forget who scanned it, but I gave him permission to post it on Google a few years ago. I guess it's making it's way around.
Really nice looking rifle though. They seem to have done their research on it.
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Originally Posted By 57Octane:
Originally Posted By mgchuck:
Originally Posted By 57Octane:
Would you mind posting a picture of the illustrations in the blue manual? The front cover has me a bit curious...


The blue book looks to be an exact copy of the original manual. I found one someone already scanned in and made public on a Google Drive. I would post the link but it's huge. Instead, Google
xm177E2 manual
and it's likely that your first result will be that scanned in version.
Troy did include one extra (loose) page at the back of the book describing sling installation. I've scanned that and added it to the original imgur album.
http://i.imgur.com/csXoiFD.png


The reason I ask, is because I made that one. The shape of the 7's on the front cover are a dead give away. I was asking to see the illustrations because I wanted to make sure. I re-illustrated the entire manual to be more clear. The originals were pretty poorly made, mostly all photocopies. I forget who scanned it, but I gave him permission to post it on Google a few years ago. I guess it's making it's way around.
Really nice looking rifle though. They seem to have done their research on it.


Wow - thanks for your dedication to the craft. It looks to be the same version only that mine doesn't have punch holes. I took two sample (dark) photos for you and added them to the album. Here are the individual pics.

Link Posted: 6/18/2016 11:29:36 AM EDT
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The reason I ask, is because I made that one. The shape of the 7's on the front cover are a dead give away. I was asking to see the illustrations because I wanted to make sure. I re-illustrated the entire manual to be more clear. The originals were pretty poorly made, mostly all photocopies. I forget who scanned it, but I gave him permission to post it on Google a few years ago. I guess it's making it's way around.

Really nice looking rifle though. They seem to have done their research on it.

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Originally Posted By 57Octane:
Originally Posted By mgchuck:
Originally Posted By 57Octane:
Would you mind posting a picture of the illustrations in the blue manual? The front cover has me a bit curious...


The blue book looks to be an exact copy of the original manual. I found one someone already scanned in and made public on a Google Drive. I would post the link but it's huge. Instead, Google
xm177E2 manual
and it's likely that your first result will be that scanned in version.

Troy did include one extra (loose) page at the back of the book describing sling installation. I've scanned that and added it to the original imgur album.
http://i.imgur.com/csXoiFD.png


The reason I ask, is because I made that one. The shape of the 7's on the front cover are a dead give away. I was asking to see the illustrations because I wanted to make sure. I re-illustrated the entire manual to be more clear. The originals were pretty poorly made, mostly all photocopies. I forget who scanned it, but I gave him permission to post it on Google a few years ago. I guess it's making it's way around.

Really nice looking rifle though. They seem to have done their research on it.


C, I had a feeling you suspected it was a copy of your remake. Now you have ....umm...........would notoriety be the word I'm looking for?
Link Posted: 6/18/2016 11:36:09 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By EARRNHARDT3:
what stock did they use? ESSENTIAL ARMS ? Is it powder coated or vinyl coated?
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I don't see any markings on the stock so I'm not sure who made it. My guess is that it's powder coated - it looks like a spray didn't quite reach the middle interior.
Link Posted: 6/18/2016 11:39:29 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By 57Octane:


The reason I ask, is because I made that one. The shape of the 7's on the front cover are a dead give away. I was asking to see the illustrations because I wanted to make sure. I re-illustrated the entire manual to be more clear. The originals were pretty poorly made, mostly all photocopies. I forget who scanned it, but I gave him permission to post it on Google a few years ago. I guess it's making it's way around.

Really nice looking rifle though. They seem to have done their research on it.

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Originally Posted By 57Octane:
Originally Posted By mgchuck:
Originally Posted By 57Octane:
Would you mind posting a picture of the illustrations in the blue manual? The front cover has me a bit curious...


The blue book looks to be an exact copy of the original manual. I found one someone already scanned in and made public on a Google Drive. I would post the link but it's huge. Instead, Google
xm177E2 manual
and it's likely that your first result will be that scanned in version.

Troy did include one extra (loose) page at the back of the book describing sling installation. I've scanned that and added it to the original imgur album.
http://i.imgur.com/csXoiFD.png


The reason I ask, is because I made that one. The shape of the 7's on the front cover are a dead give away. I was asking to see the illustrations because I wanted to make sure. I re-illustrated the entire manual to be more clear. The originals were pretty poorly made, mostly all photocopies. I forget who scanned it, but I gave him permission to post it on Google a few years ago. I guess it's making it's way around.

Really nice looking rifle though. They seem to have done their research on it.



Interesting
Know of a source for a physical copy of your version?
Link Posted: 6/18/2016 12:07:00 PM EDT
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Interesting
Know of a source for a physical copy of your version?
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Originally Posted By Saddler:
Originally Posted By 57Octane:
Originally Posted By mgchuck:
Originally Posted By 57Octane:
Would you mind posting a picture of the illustrations in the blue manual? The front cover has me a bit curious...


The blue book looks to be an exact copy of the original manual. I found one someone already scanned in and made public on a Google Drive. I would post the link but it's huge. Instead, Google
xm177E2 manual
and it's likely that your first result will be that scanned in version.

Troy did include one extra (loose) page at the back of the book describing sling installation. I've scanned that and added it to the original imgur album.
http://i.imgur.com/csXoiFD.png


The reason I ask, is because I made that one. The shape of the 7's on the front cover are a dead give away. I was asking to see the illustrations because I wanted to make sure. I re-illustrated the entire manual to be more clear. The originals were pretty poorly made, mostly all photocopies. I forget who scanned it, but I gave him permission to post it on Google a few years ago. I guess it's making it's way around.

Really nice looking rifle though. They seem to have done their research on it.



Interesting
Know of a source for a physical copy of your version?
57Octane did some a couple of years ago.
Link Posted: 6/18/2016 12:18:05 PM EDT
Very nice! And I love how they included all the manuals.
Link Posted: 6/18/2016 12:23:14 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TheGunEnthusiast:
Very nice! And I love how they included all the manuals.
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& the POW/MIA items!! (& the $50 donation to the POW/MIA fund)
Link Posted: 6/18/2016 12:55:55 PM EDT
Looks pretty good if you can get over who manufactured it.

Notable issues:

- Machining on the front of the receiver looks sloppy.
- Should have left the roll mark logo off of the magwell, and moved the manufactures info to the front.
- Should have been anodized.
- No sear block.

Link Posted: 6/18/2016 12:59:43 PM EDT


God that's sweet! Gives me the warm & fuzzies --- just like a soft, fluffy puppy and warm chocolate cookies.
Link Posted: 6/18/2016 1:04:35 PM EDT
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Yah that's your manual you gave me permission to host. Lol your famous now. That was a few years ago so the manual must have been spread around a lot. Here it is! I hosted it for the retro forum to download. Troy must have gotten a hold of it.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B9hAva_yxlzPdU12am1DWTgzY1E
Link Posted: 6/18/2016 2:25:18 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By mgchuck:
Wow - thanks for your dedication to the craft. It looks to be the same version only that mine doesn't have punch holes. I took two sample (dark) photos for you and added them to the album. Here are the individual pics.
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Originally Posted By mgchuck:
Wow - thanks for your dedication to the craft. It looks to be the same version only that mine doesn't have punch holes. I took two sample (dark) photos for you and added them to the album. Here are the individual pics.


Thanks, and thanks for the pics. It's definitely the version I made. Troy's version is "accurate", I have a real one that's bound the same way with no punch holes.

Originally Posted By Stoner25mkiv:
C, I had a feeling you suspected it was a copy of your remake. Now you have ....umm...........would notoriety be the word I'm looking for?


I don't know if it's notoriety but, it's definitely something.





Link Posted: 6/18/2016 2:48:34 PM EDT
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57Octane, you should have hosted the first version with the mis-spelling.

Would be easy to tell if it was yours that way.

Link Posted: 6/18/2016 2:59:41 PM EDT
Nice.
Link Posted: 6/18/2016 3:14:33 PM EDT
Where is the error?
Link Posted: 6/18/2016 3:24:02 PM EDT
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Here are some descrepencies.

Large hole in carrier and wrong ejection port door. Also slots on moderator are not accurate.


Link Posted: 6/18/2016 3:25:31 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TigerHawk:
Looks pretty good if you can get over who manufactured it.
Notable issues:
- Machining on the front of the receiver looks sloppy.
- Should have left the roll mark logo off of the magwell, and moved the manufactures info to the front.
- Should have been anodized.
- No sear block.
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Agreed on all points. I especially wish they left their logo off of it - totally unnecessary if you're putting a replica out there. The initial marketing for the rifle showed it without the logo. I can only imagine some executive along the way stepped in and overturned the few passionate retro-heads who were championing the project. I was also originally disappointed with the delta slip ring but then more research suggests that the delta is correct.
Link Posted: 6/18/2016 7:06:19 PM EDT
One of the first fifty would have been mine.{but with logo on} it was a no go for me . A decent rifle for the price.it was Karma because like I said after I cancelled the ORDER The SP-1 1965 model came up for sale.Sure not that model. but for me now the SP-1 will keep me happy. Let the crew know how it shoots. Since its not keep sealed forever category. I like the Manual and goody package. enjoy and have fun.And thanks for the post and info.
Link Posted: 6/18/2016 8:28:27 PM EDT
I am so purple with envy you can call me Prince. What, too soon..?

CONGRATS..!
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Originally Posted By BigRix:
57Octane, you should have hosted the first version with the mis-spelling.

Would be easy to tell if it was yours that way.

<a href="http://s576.photobucket.com/user/BigRix/media/5A1290CC-64D1-4375-834E-1EBCF7142A9D_zpsngxcxzfa.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss208/BigRix/5A1290CC-64D1-4375-834E-1EBCF7142A9D_zpsngxcxzfa.jpg</a>
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That was an embarrassing oversight. It got carried through like... 7 revisions and versions without me noticing. There are plenty of others "tells" in it as it stands though. I may have put my initials into an illustration but, I can't remember. It'd be cool if I did.
Link Posted: 7/24/2016 6:00:18 PM EDT
Well since they have released the XM177E2 model with F/A/ and no logo mag well. I had to order one, It will fill the Retro space that has been empty for almost 30 year's.Glad the original poster liked his and posted all the pic's.I am sure they did get a few more sales out of it but most important the donation's to a good cause.
Link Posted: 7/24/2016 9:18:12 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By maddi:
Well since they have released the XM177E2 model with F/A/ and no logo mag well. I had to order one, It will fill the Retro space that has been empty for almost 30 year's.Glad the original poster liked his and posted all the pic's.I am sure they did get a few more sales out of it but most important the donation's to a good cause.
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Yep.
Personally I can overlook the wrong dust cover and slots on the moderator... but I can't overlook their logo.
For guys like me who dislike the Troy logo.... their XM177 is the way to go.
Link Posted: 7/25/2016 12:17:17 PM EDT
I understand the manufacture thing and all marking and who made it.
But heck they can stamp it some other way no so easy to spot space and be done with it. like some companies with some big import stamp on items.Yet others mark a small stamp and places you can not find quickly. I am glad the mag well is marked the way it is on the Troy XM177E2
They took the hint from someone,
And this is going to be a light shooter for me so the 1200 is not a issue. And I plan on buying the Colt when they arrive with those also.
I had two originals back in the day and miss them greatly. And looking back and selling them at the time for 4000 buck's.was okay, but in todays market a Mortal sin!

Well over 30 years ago there was not many collectors besides REED Myself, Burt, Bob Miller, Vollmer and a few others looking for them. At the time it was letters and phone calls and gun shows to locate.and 98% of the makers importers and dealer's had not even been around.

back in 1965 to 1975> 1945 was retro..

Link Posted: 7/28/2016 7:50:13 AM EDT
I called the finish is sandstorm 9a.
Link Posted: 7/28/2016 9:43:37 AM EDT
Hey,are the pics of sling installation correct? If so any idea how long the para cord needs to be on FSB end to be able to feed buttstock through? Doing E2 build I have read Va-gunnut Doc mike post on information link. Just trying to get all info I can. And buy the way...would an E2 have forging flash removed on FSB and would there be a hole under front sight post? cannot seem to nail that down
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