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Posted: 1/19/2013 12:29:12 PM EDT
This is the stock trigger for a Colt Match HBAR. I had the trigger in another build and pulled it out (working ok then) and moved it back to the Colt.  Now when I do a funtion check by cocking the trigger and pulling the trigger it releases the hammer.  When holding the trigger back and moving hammer into the full down position and then releasing the trigger, the hammer is not catching.  I installed the other fire control group into a Spikes Lower and it is working ok.  Pulled the
Colt trigger back out and reinstalled into the Colt lower but still does the same thing.  Any ideas on what I might be wrong?  The spring is seated for the disconnector, and the springs are installed properly for both trigger and hammer.

Thanks

Tecstar
Link Posted: 1/19/2013 1:36:51 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/20/2013 8:24:24 AM EDT
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As you can see in the photo, this colt has a metal block (Colt) inserted into the FCG that covers the selector rod.  With this block in place, the trigger is shaved down on one side so that it can fit along side a portion of the block.  Pins are .154. With the trigger pulled back and held in place, and then the hammer cocked, a release of the trigger should allow the hammer to be caught by the front primary sear catch.  Instead, the hammer is being release all the way.  When the rifle is assembled, and you pull the charging handle (Magazine out), the bolt will not go into battery, but hangs up about half way.  If I pull the trigger and then pull the charging handle back, release the trigger as the charging handle is being returned to locked position, the bolt will travel into battery but the hammer is released.  This rifle has only had 50 rounds through it so I doubt I have worn parts.  However, I am willing to check anything you guys think might be the issue.

Thanks,

Tecstar



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Link Posted: 1/20/2013 9:56:10 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/20/2013 7:43:20 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/20/2013 8:40:57 PM EDT
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Dano523,

Thank you so much.  I guess if I did what you told me in the first post, I would have found what the problem was.  I measured the pins and found the pins to be .153.  However, I didn't look at what the hole size was in the receiver.  After taking the lower and placing it on it's side to take a picture of the pins ito send back in to the thread that I noticed alot of slop between the pins and holes.  I then took out my plastic bag of lower parts and found 4 lower pins.  I took the micrometer and found 2 pins to be .153 and 2 pins to be .174".  I pulled the hammer and trigger and reinstalled the .174 pins and checked setting the hammer back all the way with the trigger pulled, released the trigger and watched the hammer lock in position.  Then pulled the triggger and the hammer released.  Mounted the upper and lower, and racked the charging handle and the bolt goes into battery with the magazine removed.  All is working as it should.  Somehow I got the pins mixed and used the undersized pins.

If not for your persistence, I would have been making a trip to the gunsmith.  Thank you so much, and I learned from this to be sure.

Thanks again,

Ron
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 4:51:32 AM EDT
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