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Posted: 4/28/2009 6:54:37 PM EDT
Basic tuned trigger or Williams Set trigger?
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 7:11:44 PM EDT
6.5 Grendel would be much better for a precision build.
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 7:19:33 PM EDT
Perhaps I should have left the caliber out of the question. I was really considering the 6.5 at first but uppers all seem to be months and months away with it.
So back to the OP.
(If you know of a builder that could put together a Mk12 Mod 0 6.5mm grendel upper for $1300 or less by summer let me know and I'd consider it.)
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 7:34:50 PM EDT
I'm happy with the LMT 2-stage in my clone but I have to admit the Geisselle in my patrol rifle is really nice.
Link Posted: 4/29/2009 10:58:05 AM EDT
Link Posted: 4/29/2009 11:33:59 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/29/2009 11:35:16 AM EDT by QuicksilverJPR]
Originally Posted By 3crowns:
6.5 Grendel would be much better for a precision build.


And the reason being?  (I am anxiously awaiting the popular tripe which abounds in these type of posts)...


OP, Geissele would be my choice.
Link Posted: 4/29/2009 11:44:21 AM EDT
If i had money to waste, Giessele DMR trigger in a flash.
Link Posted: 4/29/2009 11:52:14 AM EDT
Originally Posted By QuicksilverJPR:
Originally Posted By 3crowns:
6.5 Grendel would be much better for a precision build.


And the reason being?  (I am anxiously awaiting the popular tripe which abounds in these type of posts)...


OP, Geissele would be my choice.

he could be a Grendel snob then



I have 3 spike's two stage and cmmg and they are pretty nice plus with my 6.8's I can dump a 30 round mag without jammin
Link Posted: 4/29/2009 7:07:52 PM EDT
Originally Posted By QuicksilverJPR:
Originally Posted By 3crowns:
6.5 Grendel would be much better for a precision build.


And the reason being?  (I am anxiously awaiting the popular tripe which abounds in these type of posts)...



Sectional Density

Link Posted: 4/30/2009 7:00:47 AM EDT
Originally Posted By 3crowns:
Originally Posted By QuicksilverJPR:
Originally Posted By 3crowns:
6.5 Grendel would be much better for a precision build.


And the reason being?  (I am anxiously awaiting the popular tripe which abounds in these type of posts)...



Sectional Density



So the bullet is made of tungsten?  

Seriously, post some numbers of like weight and like kind bullets.
Link Posted: 4/30/2009 8:05:10 AM EDT
Depends on your budget.
If you want a single stage inexpensive option sent it to Bill Williams and he can make it 3-4 lbs and no creep, all for $50.
If you want a 2 stage the Rock Rivers are hard to beat at $100.
You can always spend more, these 2 work on my guns so I have seen no reason to spend more for a drop in unit.
Link Posted: 4/30/2009 9:49:36 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/30/2009 9:53:46 AM EDT by bigdummie3]
Originally Posted By QuicksilverJPR:
Originally Posted By 3crowns:
Originally Posted By QuicksilverJPR:
Originally Posted By 3crowns:
6.5 Grendel would be much better for a precision build.


And the reason being?  (I am anxiously awaiting the popular tripe which abounds in these type of posts)...



Sectional Density



So the bullet is made of tungsten?  

Seriously, post some numbers of like weight and like kind bullets.



ok check this, I myself am buying a 6.8 because i need the bigger industry support and am going with a shorter range weapon 0-300 or so meters, but if building a longer range rig which I assume is being built since it is a mk12 mod 1 clone or likeness here are some numbers i found.....i picked obviously the grendels best bullet the 123 scenar and what i think is a great 6.8 bullet for retained velocity yadda yadda...someone chime in with a more impressive bullet for the 6.8, the 110 grain vmax , this is some data pulled from 16 inch barrels, the vmax is what i see some people getting from handloads hornady lists it at 2550ft/s and the grendel data is from alexander arms website, the difference gets quite noticable after 500 yards,
                            6.8 ........................Grendel
                            ft/s  energy
0 yards               2620/1676................2480/1680
100 yards             2381/1385...............2345/1476
300 yards              1942/927................2031/1127
500 yards             1559/593..................1761/847
Link Posted: 4/30/2009 10:52:20 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/30/2009 10:54:00 AM EDT by QuicksilverJPR]
Originally Posted By bigdummie3:
Originally Posted By QuicksilverJPR:
Originally Posted By 3crowns:
Originally Posted By QuicksilverJPR:
Originally Posted By 3crowns:
6.5 Grendel would be much better for a precision build.


And the reason being?  (I am anxiously awaiting the popular tripe which abounds in these type of posts)...



Sectional Density



So the bullet is made of tungsten?  

Seriously, post some numbers of like weight and like kind bullets.



ok check this, I myself am buying a 6.8 because i need the bigger industry support and am going with a shorter range weapon 0-300 or so meters, but if building a longer range rig which I assume is being built since it is a mk12 mod 1 clone or likeness here are some numbers i found.....i picked obviously the grendels best bullet the 123 scenar and what i think is a great 6.8 bullet for retained velocity yadda yadda...someone chime in with a more impressive bullet for the 6.8, the 110 grain vmax , this is some data pulled from 16 inch barrels, the vmax is what i see some people getting from handloads hornady lists it at 2550ft/s and the grendel data is from alexander arms website, the difference gets quite noticable after 500 yards,
                            6.8 ........................Grendel
                            ft/s  energy
0 yards               2620/1676................2480/1680
100 yards             2381/1385...............2345/1476
300 yards              1942/927................2031/1127
500 yards             1559/593..................1761/847


You can't use those two bullets as a close comparison in all honesty.  I would use the 129gr Hornady SST in 6.5mm vs. the Sierra 130gr SBT, which are the loads I checked against one another (see above)...


ETA - Oops!  Forgot that was a different thread.  Hang on, let me copy/paste the info here...

6.8 SPC also has similar BC bullets available for long range shooting compared to the 6.5 Grendel (in the same weight ranges). The "more bullet choices" part is really mostly bologna b/c you can only load the rounds to a certain length, which immediately limits the 6.5mm bullet selection. The same can be said for the 140-150grn weight bullets for the 6.8.

I can say this, my 18" WOA can propel a 130gr Sierra SBT to 2522 fps (+/- 19fps), whereas the 6.5 Grendel needs a 24" barrel to produce 2470 fps with a 129gr Hornady SST. I also know that the 85gr Barnes TSX is getting close to 3200 fps in my same 6.8 SPC barrel.

Both the 6.5 and 6.8 are intermediate distance cartridges at best (both also much better than the .223/5.56 NATO). If you want real long range performance (that's 600+ yards), then get something in .308 Winchester/7.62x51 NATO. You can't ask a teenage boy to do a man's work all the time...

Link Posted: 4/30/2009 12:06:33 PM EDT
Originally Posted By QuicksilverJPR:
Originally Posted By bigdummie3:
Originally Posted By QuicksilverJPR:
Originally Posted By 3crowns:
Originally Posted By QuicksilverJPR:
Originally Posted By 3crowns:
6.5 Grendel would be much better for a precision build.


And the reason being?  (I am anxiously awaiting the popular tripe which abounds in these type of posts)...



Sectional Density



So the bullet is made of tungsten?  

Seriously, post some numbers of like weight and like kind bullets.



ok check this, I myself am buying a 6.8 because i need the bigger industry support and am going with a shorter range weapon 0-300 or so meters, but if building a longer range rig which I assume is being built since it is a mk12 mod 1 clone or likeness here are some numbers i found.....i picked obviously the grendels best bullet the 123 scenar and what i think is a great 6.8 bullet for retained velocity yadda yadda...someone chime in with a more impressive bullet for the 6.8, the 110 grain vmax , this is some data pulled from 16 inch barrels, the vmax is what i see some people getting from handloads hornady lists it at 2550ft/s and the grendel data is from alexander arms website, the difference gets quite noticable after 500 yards,
                            6.8 ........................Grendel
                            ft/s  energy
0 yards               2620/1676................2480/1680
100 yards             2381/1385...............2345/1476
300 yards              1942/927................2031/1127
500 yards             1559/593..................1761/847


You can't use those two bullets as a close comparison in all honesty.  I would use the 129gr Hornady SST in 6.5mm vs. the Sierra 130gr SBT, which are the loads I checked against one another (see above)...


ETA - Oops!  Forgot that was a different thread.  Hang on, let me copy/paste the info here...

6.8 SPC also has similar BC bullets available for long range shooting compared to the 6.5 Grendel (in the same weight ranges). The "more bullet choices" part is really mostly bologna b/c you can only load the rounds to a certain length, which immediately limits the 6.5mm bullet selection. The same can be said for the 140-150grn weight bullets for the 6.8.

I can say this, my 18" WOA can propel a 130gr Sierra SBT to 2522 fps (+/- 19fps), whereas the 6.5 Grendel needs a 24" barrel to produce 2470 fps with a 129gr Hornady SST. I also know that the 85gr Barnes TSX is getting close to 3200 fps in my same 6.8 SPC barrel.

Both the 6.5 and 6.8 are intermediate distance cartridges at best (both also much better than the .223/5.56 NATO). If you want real long range performance (that's 600+ yards), then get something in .308 Winchester/7.62x51 NATO. You can't ask a teenage boy to do a man's work all the time...



i plugged the numbers from your velocity of 2522 for the 130gr sierra sbt into my ballistics program and came to these numbers

0yards  2522/1839
100yards 2314/1546
300yards 1919/1063
500yards 1559/701     somewhere around 200 yards the grendel 123 scenar has more energy/velocity and thats with a 16 inch barrel....the 85grainer is smoking and has good penetration, but it loses velocity quickly as well as energy numbers....if you plan on shooting 400 yards or more then clearly the grendel in my opinion is the better choice, 762 is an excellent choice also, theres been reports of 700meter kills with 5.56 mk12 mod 1 so the 6.8 can do it too but that far in the ar15 platform the grendel energy numbers are just flat out better, in spite of all this I am not going to shoot out that far and like the 6.8 for my needs, ymmv but just wanted whoever wanted to know that if this is a longer range gun then the grendel may be something to look into.maybe someone who actually owns one can chime in
Link Posted: 4/30/2009 12:35:56 PM EDT
Originally Posted By bigdummie3:
Originally Posted By QuicksilverJPR:
Originally Posted By bigdummie3:
Originally Posted By QuicksilverJPR:
Originally Posted By 3crowns:
Originally Posted By QuicksilverJPR:
Originally Posted By 3crowns:
6.5 Grendel would be much better for a precision build.


And the reason being?  (I am anxiously awaiting the popular tripe which abounds in these type of posts)...



Sectional Density



So the bullet is made of tungsten?  

Seriously, post some numbers of like weight and like kind bullets.



ok check this, I myself am buying a 6.8 because i need the bigger industry support and am going with a shorter range weapon 0-300 or so meters, but if building a longer range rig which I assume is being built since it is a mk12 mod 1 clone or likeness here are some numbers i found.....i picked obviously the grendels best bullet the 123 scenar and what i think is a great 6.8 bullet for retained velocity yadda yadda...someone chime in with a more impressive bullet for the 6.8, the 110 grain vmax , this is some data pulled from 16 inch barrels, the vmax is what i see some people getting from handloads hornady lists it at 2550ft/s and the grendel data is from alexander arms website, the difference gets quite noticable after 500 yards,
                            6.8 ........................Grendel
                            ft/s  energy
0 yards               2620/1676................2480/1680
100 yards             2381/1385...............2345/1476
300 yards              1942/927................2031/1127
500 yards             1559/593..................1761/847


You can't use those two bullets as a close comparison in all honesty.  I would use the 129gr Hornady SST in 6.5mm vs. the Sierra 130gr SBT, which are the loads I checked against one another (see above)...


ETA - Oops!  Forgot that was a different thread.  Hang on, let me copy/paste the info here...

6.8 SPC also has similar BC bullets available for long range shooting compared to the 6.5 Grendel (in the same weight ranges). The "more bullet choices" part is really mostly bologna b/c you can only load the rounds to a certain length, which immediately limits the 6.5mm bullet selection. The same can be said for the 140-150grn weight bullets for the 6.8.

I can say this, my 18" WOA can propel a 130gr Sierra SBT to 2522 fps (+/- 19fps), whereas the 6.5 Grendel needs a 24" barrel to produce 2470 fps with a 129gr Hornady SST. I also know that the 85gr Barnes TSX is getting close to 3200 fps in my same 6.8 SPC barrel.

Both the 6.5 and 6.8 are intermediate distance cartridges at best (both also much better than the .223/5.56 NATO). If you want real long range performance (that's 600+ yards), then get something in .308 Winchester/7.62x51 NATO. You can't ask a teenage boy to do a man's work all the time...



i plugged the numbers from your velocity of 2522 for the 130gr sierra sbt into my ballistics program and came to these numbers

0yards  2522/1839
100yards 2314/1546
300yards 1919/1063
500yards 1559/701     somewhere around 200 yards the grendel 123 scenar has more energy/velocity and thats with a 16 inch barrel....the 85grainer is smoking and has good penetration, but it loses velocity quickly as well as energy numbers....if you plan on shooting 400 yards or more then clearly the grendel in my opinion is the better choice, 762 is an excellent choice also, theres been reports of 700meter kills with 5.56 mk12 mod 1 so the 6.8 can do it too but that far in the ar15 platform the grendel energy numbers are just flat out better, in spite of all this I am not going to shoot out that far and like the 6.8 for my needs, ymmv but just wanted whoever wanted to know that if this is a longer range gun then the grendel may be something to look into.maybe someone who actually owns one can chime in



I see 16" Grendel numbers with the 123 Scenar as follows;


Muzzle:  2480 1680

100:  2325 1476
300:  2031 1127
500:  1761 847

And yes, obviously, the Scenar is a hell of a lot better bullet ballisticly speaking!  There are a few 6.8 bullets like this (finally), but they are few and far between (GS Custom Bullets come to mind).

Anyway, out to 300 yards, there is not going to be much difference at all, period point blank.  If you need longer range bullets or weapons, the 7.62x51 is out there.  I love my .308, I must say, but I like the weight of the AR-15 series rifles...
Link Posted: 4/30/2009 1:45:52 PM EDT
Originally Posted By QuicksilverJPR:
Originally Posted By bigdummie3:
Originally Posted By QuicksilverJPR:
Originally Posted By bigdummie3:
Originally Posted By QuicksilverJPR:
Originally Posted By 3crowns:
Originally Posted By QuicksilverJPR:
Originally Posted By 3crowns:
6.5 Grendel would be much better for a precision build.


And the reason being?  (I am anxiously awaiting the popular tripe which abounds in these type of posts)...



Sectional Density



So the bullet is made of tungsten?  

Seriously, post some numbers of like weight and like kind bullets.



ok check this, I myself am buying a 6.8 because i need the bigger industry support and am going with a shorter range weapon 0-300 or so meters, but if building a longer range rig which I assume is being built since it is a mk12 mod 1 clone or likeness here are some numbers i found.....i picked obviously the grendels best bullet the 123 scenar and what i think is a great 6.8 bullet for retained velocity yadda yadda...someone chime in with a more impressive bullet for the 6.8, the 110 grain vmax , this is some data pulled from 16 inch barrels, the vmax is what i see some people getting from handloads hornady lists it at 2550ft/s and the grendel data is from alexander arms website, the difference gets quite noticable after 500 yards,
                            6.8 ........................Grendel
                            ft/s  energy
0 yards               2620/1676................2480/1680
100 yards             2381/1385...............2345/1476
300 yards              1942/927................2031/1127
500 yards             1559/593..................1761/847


You can't use those two bullets as a close comparison in all honesty.  I would use the 129gr Hornady SST in 6.5mm vs. the Sierra 130gr SBT, which are the loads I checked against one another (see above)...


ETA - Oops!  Forgot that was a different thread.  Hang on, let me copy/paste the info here...

6.8 SPC also has similar BC bullets available for long range shooting compared to the 6.5 Grendel (in the same weight ranges). The "more bullet choices" part is really mostly bologna b/c you can only load the rounds to a certain length, which immediately limits the 6.5mm bullet selection. The same can be said for the 140-150grn weight bullets for the 6.8.

I can say this, my 18" WOA can propel a 130gr Sierra SBT to 2522 fps (+/- 19fps), whereas the 6.5 Grendel needs a 24" barrel to produce 2470 fps with a 129gr Hornady SST. I also know that the 85gr Barnes TSX is getting close to 3200 fps in my same 6.8 SPC barrel.

Both the 6.5 and 6.8 are intermediate distance cartridges at best (both also much better than the .223/5.56 NATO). If you want real long range performance (that's 600+ yards), then get something in .308 Winchester/7.62x51 NATO. You can't ask a teenage boy to do a man's work all the time...



i plugged the numbers from your velocity of 2522 for the 130gr sierra sbt into my ballistics program and came to these numbers

0yards  2522/1839
100yards 2314/1546
300yards 1919/1063
500yards 1559/701     somewhere around 200 yards the grendel 123 scenar has more energy/velocity and thats with a 16 inch barrel....the 85grainer is smoking and has good penetration, but it loses velocity quickly as well as energy numbers....if you plan on shooting 400 yards or more then clearly the grendel in my opinion is the better choice, 762 is an excellent choice also, theres been reports of 700meter kills with 5.56 mk12 mod 1 so the 6.8 can do it too but that far in the ar15 platform the grendel energy numbers are just flat out better, in spite of all this I am not going to shoot out that far and like the 6.8 for my needs, ymmv but just wanted whoever wanted to know that if this is a longer range gun then the grendel may be something to look into.maybe someone who actually owns one can chime in



I see 16" Grendel numbers with the 123 Scenar as follows;


Muzzle:  2480 1680

100:  2325 1476
300:  2031 1127
500:  1761 847

And yes, obviously, the Scenar is a hell of a lot better bullet ballisticly speaking!  There are a few 6.8 bullets like this (finally), but they are few and far between (GS Custom Bullets come to mind).

Anyway, out to 300 yards, there is not going to be much difference at all, period point blank.  If you need longer range bullets or weapons, the 7.62x51 is out there.  I love my .308, I must say, but I like the weight of the AR-15 series rifles...


pretty much thats what I was saying all along....out to say 400 meters theres not a big enough difference to care one way or another, past that the grendel shines, obviously the 762 is pretty nice, i actually have a FAL and love it too bad it just doesnt have the accuracy for 600+ meter shots, im building a 6.8 recce type build and was looking for high bc 6.8 bullets to shoot myself
Link Posted: 4/30/2009 2:23:30 PM EDT
Originally Posted By bigdummie3:
Originally Posted By QuicksilverJPR:
Originally Posted By bigdummie3:
Originally Posted By QuicksilverJPR:
Originally Posted By bigdummie3:
Originally Posted By QuicksilverJPR:
Originally Posted By 3crowns:
Originally Posted By QuicksilverJPR:
Originally Posted By 3crowns:
6.5 Grendel would be much better for a precision build.


And the reason being?  (I am anxiously awaiting the popular tripe which abounds in these type of posts)...



Sectional Density



So the bullet is made of tungsten?  

Seriously, post some numbers of like weight and like kind bullets.



ok check this, I myself am buying a 6.8 because i need the bigger industry support and am going with a shorter range weapon 0-300 or so meters, but if building a longer range rig which I assume is being built since it is a mk12 mod 1 clone or likeness here are some numbers i found.....i picked obviously the grendels best bullet the 123 scenar and what i think is a great 6.8 bullet for retained velocity yadda yadda...someone chime in with a more impressive bullet for the 6.8, the 110 grain vmax , this is some data pulled from 16 inch barrels, the vmax is what i see some people getting from handloads hornady lists it at 2550ft/s and the grendel data is from alexander arms website, the difference gets quite noticable after 500 yards,
                            6.8 ........................Grendel
                            ft/s  energy
0 yards               2620/1676................2480/1680
100 yards             2381/1385...............2345/1476
300 yards              1942/927................2031/1127
500 yards             1559/593..................1761/847


You can't use those two bullets as a close comparison in all honesty.  I would use the 129gr Hornady SST in 6.5mm vs. the Sierra 130gr SBT, which are the loads I checked against one another (see above)...


ETA - Oops!  Forgot that was a different thread.  Hang on, let me copy/paste the info here...

6.8 SPC also has similar BC bullets available for long range shooting compared to the 6.5 Grendel (in the same weight ranges). The "more bullet choices" part is really mostly bologna b/c you can only load the rounds to a certain length, which immediately limits the 6.5mm bullet selection. The same can be said for the 140-150grn weight bullets for the 6.8.

I can say this, my 18" WOA can propel a 130gr Sierra SBT to 2522 fps (+/- 19fps), whereas the 6.5 Grendel needs a 24" barrel to produce 2470 fps with a 129gr Hornady SST. I also know that the 85gr Barnes TSX is getting close to 3200 fps in my same 6.8 SPC barrel.

Both the 6.5 and 6.8 are intermediate distance cartridges at best (both also much better than the .223/5.56 NATO). If you want real long range performance (that's 600+ yards), then get something in .308 Winchester/7.62x51 NATO. You can't ask a teenage boy to do a man's work all the time...



i plugged the numbers from your velocity of 2522 for the 130gr sierra sbt into my ballistics program and came to these numbers

0yards  2522/1839
100yards 2314/1546
300yards 1919/1063
500yards 1559/701     somewhere around 200 yards the grendel 123 scenar has more energy/velocity and thats with a 16 inch barrel....the 85grainer is smoking and has good penetration, but it loses velocity quickly as well as energy numbers....if you plan on shooting 400 yards or more then clearly the grendel in my opinion is the better choice, 762 is an excellent choice also, theres been reports of 700meter kills with 5.56 mk12 mod 1 so the 6.8 can do it too but that far in the ar15 platform the grendel energy numbers are just flat out better, in spite of all this I am not going to shoot out that far and like the 6.8 for my needs, ymmv but just wanted whoever wanted to know that if this is a longer range gun then the grendel may be something to look into.maybe someone who actually owns one can chime in



I see 16" Grendel numbers with the 123 Scenar as follows;


Muzzle:  2480 1680

100:  2325 1476
300:  2031 1127
500:  1761 847

And yes, obviously, the Scenar is a hell of a lot better bullet ballisticly speaking!  There are a few 6.8 bullets like this (finally), but they are few and far between (GS Custom Bullets come to mind).

Anyway, out to 300 yards, there is not going to be much difference at all, period point blank.  If you need longer range bullets or weapons, the 7.62x51 is out there.  I love my .308, I must say, but I like the weight of the AR-15 series rifles...


pretty much thats what I was saying all along....out to say 400 meters theres not a big enough difference to care one way or another, past that the grendel shines, obviously the 762 is pretty nice, i actually have a FAL and love it too bad it just doesnt have the accuracy for 600+ meter shots, im building a 6.8 recce type build and was looking for high bc 6.8 bullets to shoot myself



Try some of the GS Custom and (eventually) the TTSX bullets from Barnes that are going to be in the 90-100 gr weight...
Link Posted: 4/30/2009 2:56:56 PM EDT
and what does any of these numbers have to do with the trigger request?
Link Posted: 4/30/2009 3:50:01 PM EDT
and what does any of these numbers have to do with the trigger request?


Hijackers!
Link Posted: 4/30/2009 4:26:08 PM EDT
Originally Posted By slipjett:
and what does any of these numbers have to do with the trigger request?


Hijackers!


Exactly!!!
Back to the OP people.
Why does every 6mm thread have to turn into a number crunching pissing match??
Frankly I am mostly interested in hunting and having a nice rifle in case SHTF. The 6.8 seems easy to buy a can for too.
That and AR Performance is like 1/2 hr away.
Link Posted: 4/30/2009 7:38:07 PM EDT
BTW I pretty much decided that the Gieselle (sp?) DMR is what I want. I wonder how well it would work with a .22lr dedicated upper to be a close trainer for the regular upper.
Link Posted: 5/1/2009 6:01:25 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Taipan:
BTW I pretty much decided that the Gieselle (sp?) DMR is what I want. I wonder how well it would work with a .22lr dedicated upper to be a close trainer for the regular upper.


Do not know, but I would be interested to find out.  I thought about doing that myself, but I still use XM193 to train with at this time...
Link Posted: 5/1/2009 6:05:33 AM EDT
that trigger is wicked nice I got to shoot a rifle with one installed and it was sweet, I may have to pick one up one of these days...
Link Posted: 5/1/2009 6:22:18 AM EDT
Originally Posted By QuicksilverJPR:
Originally Posted By Taipan:
BTW I pretty much decided that the Gieselle (sp?) DMR is what I want. I wonder how well it would work with a .22lr dedicated upper to be a close trainer for the regular upper.


Do not know, but I would be interested to find out.  I thought about doing that myself, but I still use XM193 to train with at this time...


I already use a Spike's conversion unit in my .223 M4'gery. I love it. It's fun and economical. I get to use the same rifle, same trigger, same weight, etc all for about $10 per 100 rounds instead of $40.

Link Posted: 5/1/2009 10:29:10 AM EDT
BTW my caliber is settle, I just ordered the upper in 6.8mm. I think its the better choice for my needs.
So by mid July hopefully I will have a 6.8mm Mk12 Mod 0 in 6.8mm and the deer and the antelope will have something to worry about.
Link Posted: 5/1/2009 11:11:57 AM EDT
who did you order your upper through?
Link Posted: 5/1/2009 11:13:10 AM EDT
Link Posted: 5/1/2009 10:44:26 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Taipan:
BTW my caliber is settle, I just ordered the upper in 6.8mm.


Did you use logic and reason?
Link Posted: 5/2/2009 7:23:47 AM EDT
Originally Posted By 3crowns:
Originally Posted By Taipan:
BTW my caliber is settle, I just ordered the upper in 6.8mm.


Did you use logic and reason?


LMAO!!!! Yes, I reasoned out my needs for this rifle. I have no need to shoot beyond 500 yards. My local gunstore carries 6.8mm SPC ammo if I need it. SSA carries everything I need ammo wise including nicely priced brass. It will be easier for me to suppress. I have a local builder that was willing to build exactly what I wanted. We had to make adjustments to the Mod 0 concept for it being 6.8mm but they are small sacrifices.

Who know's maybe I'll end up getting a grendel too, but not today.
Link Posted: 5/2/2009 7:34:05 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Taipan:
http://www.ar15performance.com/sam_r


Excellent choice, Harrison is the only one I will use to build my rifles.....
Link Posted: 5/2/2009 7:41:43 AM EDT
Originally Posted By marinesg1012:
Originally Posted By Taipan:
http://www.ar15performance.com/sam_r


Excellent choice, Harrison is the only one I will use to build my rifles.....


I really like the fact that he is basically local to me too. I can't wait, this is going to be a kick ass rifle.
My other goal will be to get the YHM phantom 7.62 suppressor for it and build up a .22lr clone upper (Model 1 sales I think) for cheap practice.
For glass I have been eyeballing the 10x Super Sniper or the 4-14x Falcon Menace.
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