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Posted: 10/3/2004 2:23:47 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/4/2004 12:46:56 AM EST by IPSC_GUY]
I got to try a tango down vertical grip and I did not like it. First it is bigger than a KAC vetical grip (which I am used to) and the size was ok. The oval shape however was not. It seemed to me that the oval was 90 degrees in the wrong direction as I had the urge to grip the thing sideways.

Next I did not like was how much of a pain it was to get on and off or to move it around on the rail. It just about took two people to manipulate the thing. Now this was a new one and maybe with time the locking mechanisum won't be so hard to make work. I take my grips on and off all the time, so the ease of use for adding and removing the grip is needed here.

So for me I will be sticking with ole reliable (KAC) for the time being.

IPSC_GUY (flame suit ON)
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 2:37:31 PM EST
To each his own,

Are you going to sell your TD vertical grip on EE?
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 2:38:34 PM EST
i dont' like TD's really either... i'll stick with my KAC
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 3:08:03 PM EST
No flames necessary. To each his own, I always say...

I like the tango down for all the reason you dislike it. The oval on the grip is oriented the way I like it. I don't hold a vertical grip w/ my thumb facing forward, I hold it with my left hand, and my thumb facing right. When I want to activate my light, I move my hand around a touch and can depress the clicker on my light ( I use a yankee hill offset mount so it isnt a far reach).

Yes, it takes some effort to position the grip, but by no means does it take 2 people and I'd rather know my grip isn't moving once its installed.
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 3:09:41 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/3/2004 3:09:58 PM EST by rockytherotty]
+1 I did'nt like the TD verticle grip either. Too fat, to much BS. I like my GG&G grip.
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 3:11:54 PM EST
KAC fits me fine. Makes me shoot faster and more accurate.
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 3:16:01 PM EST

Originally Posted By jar3ds:
i dont' like TD's really either... i'll stick with my KAC




+1,

and a Dieter for when I run my light.
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 3:17:45 PM EST
No flames, I got rid of all my VFGs.
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 3:19:07 PM EST

Originally Posted By IPSC_GUY:
I got to try a tango down vertical grip today and I did not like it. First it is bigger than a KAC vetical grip (which I am used to) and the size was ok. The oval shape however was not. It seemed to me that the oval was 90 degrees in the wrong direction as I had the urge to grip the thing sideways.

Next I did not like was how much of a pain it was to get on and off or to move it around on the rail. It just about took two people to manipulate the thing. Now this was a new one and maybe with time the locking mechanisum won't be so hard to make work. I take my grips onn and off all the time, so the ease of use for adding and removing the grip is needed here.

So for me I will be sticking with ole reliable (KAC) for the time being.

IPSC_GUY (flame suit ON)



My sentiments exactly. I went back to my KAC. If they ever make a QD Dieter, however...
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 3:20:49 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 3:26:24 PM EST
I feel the same way IPSC_Guy does about the TD VFG. Oval 90 degrees off for me. I now run Knights and Dieter VFGs.

To each his own.........
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 3:27:31 PM EST
So, what do you want for the tango down?
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 4:29:18 PM EST
I didnt like it either... alos didnt like the way it was lop sided and larger on the right side than the left in addition to being way wider than it was from front to back. The pistol grip is also too thin at the top and its too fat at the bottom.
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 7:24:59 PM EST
Ok the grip is not mine. It was a sample provided to 2nd Force in hopes that they might buy them and replace the Knights grips. I doubt that is going to happen for the above mentioned reasons. I haven't had a chance to try the dieter yet.

IPSC_GUY
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 7:31:13 PM EST
I prefer the KAC as well.
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 7:40:48 PM EST

Originally Posted By IPSC_GUY:

IPSC_GUY (flame suit ON)



Thought I would flame ya. Couldn't let you feel like you dawned your flame suit for nothing.

Link Posted: 10/3/2004 8:32:21 PM EST
Can you take pics of this oval you are talking about . I have been thinking of getting one , but I have never seen one aside from adds and flattering shots on the net .
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 9:46:05 PM EST
There is something wrong going on here if you can't voice your opinion without getting flamed. If you said matter of factly that something was junk...well that might be a different story.
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 10:57:17 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 11:55:09 PM EST
I like mine, I agree, it is a pain in the ass to install. I have to use 4 allen wrenches to hold the bars down. I cant pull the bars down and slide the TD along the rail
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 1:02:32 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/4/2004 1:03:40 AM EST by RAMBOSKY]
Dieter forward grip. Too big and it's made of aluminum which absorbs heat out in the hot sun all day at a match. You have to put a bicycle inner tube over it but that's like making love to a girl with a bag over her head.
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 2:32:46 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/4/2004 2:35:55 AM EST by chrome1]
Yeah , it's funny how something feels wrong in your hand ...........

Especially when all your life your used to the shape of another cylindrical object
you been hanging on too .

enough for ya
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 5:45:14 AM EST
Didn't like the TD grip either. I love my KAC though.

Link Posted: 10/4/2004 6:20:01 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/4/2004 6:20:15 AM EST by Gimme_A_Carbine]
+1 for the GG&G...just right...for me.
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 6:23:18 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/4/2004 6:30:48 AM EST by nbjly]

Originally Posted By Gimme_A_Carbine:
+1 for the GG&G...just right...for me.



+2 Round cross-section, battery/bolt storage, QD, machined not molded

And yes, feels more familar
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 7:14:33 AM EST
I've been using a KAC for a few years, and finally got around to trying the TD. It's a little bigger than I was expecting, even after reading all the reviews. So far it feels OK, but I may end up going back to the KAC.
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 10:41:02 AM EST

Originally Posted By Kodiak-AK:
Can you take pics of this oval you are talking about . I have been thinking of getting one , but I have never seen one aside from adds and flattering shots on the net .



Its not even oval its more like a lop sided lumpy egg shape where one side sticks out more than another.
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 6:01:00 PM EST


Its not even oval its more like a lop sided lumpy egg shape where one side sticks out more than another.


That is a good way to describe it to tell you the truth. The more I use my KAC after trying the TD grip, the more I like my KAC.

IPSC_GUY
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 6:34:40 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/4/2004 6:38:26 PM EST by M-Forgery]

Originally Posted By JC_:
So, what do you want for the tango down?



Sold it long ago......



Originally Posted By RAMBOSKY:
Dieter forward grip. Too big and it's made of aluminum which absorbs heat out in the hot sun all day at a match. You have to put a bicycle inner tube over it but that's like making love to a girl with a bag over her head.



That is why they make kevlar and nomex gloves. I still like my Dieter grip.
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 8:20:56 PM EST
Sombody please take a pic of this . I understand it is shaped wierd , but exactly how bad is it?
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