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Posted: 11/25/2014 8:11:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/27/2014 1:25:05 AM EDT by KYGun]
So, I won an essential Arms AR15 on an online auction run by a local real estate business. I have been wanting to build a model 711. Well, this is the epitome of a 711. So, I won't have to build one. A1 lower Cast by Ruger supposedly, A2 stock and grip, with Triangle hanguards, and Rapidex type dial rear sight. It has a sloppy black paint job that I will be removing. I also put on my set of Lonestar handguards. This is THE rifle I envisioned when I planned to build one. I had it at 550, and pulled a bonehead and put in a force bid of 650. Well that put me 100 bucks against myself. So, I have learned what I force bid is, haha. Was going to keep upper and sell lower, but gonna keep it as is. With the PM code, is this a legit Elisco type? What about the paint. Is there anodizing under that? It's got a grey color under it flaked off at hammer pin.

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Link Posted: 11/25/2014 9:13:24 PM EDT
Interesting. I bought a J15 earlier this year and it was made up of the exact same parts. PM upper, CMPB barrel, A2 stock and lonestar furniture.
Link Posted: 11/25/2014 9:22:49 PM EDT
Interesting indeed, and what is your serial in relation to this one? The rifle come with the tri guards and I put the lonestars on.
Link Posted: 11/25/2014 9:44:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/25/2014 9:50:20 PM EDT by HipSh0T]
I wouldn't worry about the price, hell you could get your money back out of the lower alone when you strip that aweful black paint off. Is that Rapidex Knob gold or is it just the camera playing tricks?


Upper and lower receivers were painted black, the charging handle appears to be black, everything will look great after the paint is gone. You can see gray peaking out from under the cary handle hole on the upper as well. I'd get to work disassembling the rifle and getting that paint off.
Link Posted: 11/25/2014 10:34:45 PM EDT
I learned a lesson though but that force bid may have deterred other bidders. It's a bargain either way. Gonna sell one and maybe two SGW prebans to pay for it and the other stuff I got.


Link Posted: 11/25/2014 11:15:47 PM EDT
i would sell the lower to and get a black nds a1 lower and use everything else. $650 is not a bad price. i paid $1100 for a pre ban carbine few month ago. but i had a aluminum colt stock and 16" colt pencil barrel.
Link Posted: 11/25/2014 11:24:01 PM EDT
I'm gonna keep it together, as I think it's factory........
Link Posted: 11/26/2014 12:23:13 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By KYGun:
Interesting indeed, and what is your serial in relation to this one? The rifle come with the tri guards and I put the lonestars on.
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It was about 400 away from yours....pretty close really.
Link Posted: 11/26/2014 8:34:16 AM EDT
The early EA lowers were indeed anodized a light gray. Back in the day, they matched Colt gray OK, but surplus parts kits were often black, so folks commonly spray painted over the gray to match, If you gently strip the paint, it should be a very matte gray anodized under it.

I really miss the 80s, but funny fact - I think EA receivers were like $55 in quantity and $75 if you got one, which interestingly enough is more than what some lowers go for today 20-30 years later.
Link Posted: 11/26/2014 12:11:53 PM EDT
Any tips for a safe non-damaging painter removal?
Link Posted: 11/26/2014 12:18:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/26/2014 3:12:23 PM EDT by Yelpers]
The lower itself is worth what you paid. Pre-ban non-Colt lowers are pricey in ban states that allow them. I think Connecticut is one.
Link Posted: 11/26/2014 2:29:31 PM EDT
Ok, the wife picked me up some aircraft stripper. So, it's attack of the paint remover on the essential lower later. I'll take several before and after pics.
Link Posted: 11/27/2014 12:51:56 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/27/2014 1:15:58 AM EDT by KYGun]
http://s1326.photobucket.com/user/KYGun/media/Essential%20Arms/EAafter7_zps293e0118.jpg.html?sort=3&o=5


Makeover............
Link Posted: 11/27/2014 1:09:06 AM EDT
Nice.. Looks much better.

How long did it take ?
Link Posted: 11/27/2014 1:10:50 AM EDT
Which link above works? LOL, I can't get any of them to come up and work off my stupid laptop tonight.
Link Posted: 11/27/2014 1:11:46 AM EDT
this

http://s1326.photobucket.com/user/KYGun/library/Essential%20Arms?sort=3&page=1
Link Posted: 11/27/2014 1:20:55 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/27/2014 1:46:19 AM EDT by KYGun]
The aircraft stripper worked like a dream. Took down lower, sprayed stripper on it, waited 15 minutes, took a plastic bristle brush, went over it gooed. sprayed with brake cleaner, wiped off. That was for the lower.

Now to the upper. The stripped did not budge the paint at all. So, I shot it with the rustoleum grey auto primer. Matches pretty darn good. I am very happy with the difference.

I took about 45 minutes including breakdown and re-assembly. I and SIDD posted the album link, but here's a couple closeups. " />" />
Link Posted: 11/27/2014 2:27:19 AM EDT
The lower turned out really nice. What kind of stripper did you use? (can you post a pic?) Some baked on paints will not come off unless you blast them off, for "regular" paints I have had good luck with this brand:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/130677110658?lpid=82

(no opinion on the seller) I think they have low odor products, I would stick with the strong / bad smelling stuff. I've run out of this and tried to use regular stripper but some paints just laugh at child safe paint strippers. You have to spend the money and get the strong stuff.



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Originally Posted By KYGun:
The aircraft stripper worked like a dream. Took down lower, sprayed stripper on it, waited 15 minutes, took a plastic bristle brush, went over it gooed. sprayed with brake cleaner, wiped off. That was for the lower.

Now to the upper. The stripped did not budge the paint at all. So, I shot it with the rustoleum grey auto primer. Matches pretty darn good. I am very happy with the difference.

I took about 45 minutes including breakdown and re-assembly. I and SIDD posted the album link, but here's a couple closeups. http://<a href=http://i1326.photobucket.com/albums/u660/KYGun/Essential%20Arms/EAafter3_zps64903148.jpg</a>" />http://<a href=http://i1326.photobucket.com/albums/u660/KYGun/Essential%20Arms/EAafter11_zpsb34a4154.jpg</a>" />
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Link Posted: 11/27/2014 2:43:00 AM EDT
Thats a good match between upper and lower. But that A2 grip is hurtin' my eyes...

Seriously, great job so far!
Link Posted: 11/27/2014 4:58:12 AM EDT
Need a nice matte black A1 pistol grip and teardrop forward assist......and unless you like the gold rapidex knob......also an A1 site wheel.
Link Posted: 11/27/2014 5:53:18 AM EDT
Link Posted: 11/27/2014 11:21:11 AM EDT
Well, for what I was going for, I think the a2 grip is accurate. I'll leave the dial knob on, and I, last night, put on a large head FA.


Link Posted: 11/27/2014 11:52:04 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/27/2014 11:52:56 AM EDT by HKILLER]
if that were my lower and was gonna keep it i would sand down the raised lettering, and the selector bumps and have them laser engraved. looking good tho.
Link Posted: 11/27/2014 12:46:47 PM EDT
Link Posted: 11/27/2014 1:06:22 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Aimless:
That lower might be worth some money if you sold it to someone in CT
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Can NY'rs still have pre-ban lowers Aimless? It pisses me off every time I go back to see my folks and have to leave my guns with a friend in PA...

OP - That looks a LOT better after the work you did.
Link Posted: 11/27/2014 1:17:02 PM EDT
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I thought Massachusetts was the last Communist state that could still receive imported pre-bans?
Link Posted: 11/27/2014 10:32:25 PM EDT
This has a non-shrouded firing pin SP1 BDG in it with no markings on it.
Link Posted: 11/30/2014 5:57:54 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/30/2014 5:58:23 AM EDT by HipSh0T]
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I thought Massachusetts was the last Communist state that could still receive imported pre-bans?
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Originally Posted By Aimless: That lower might be worth some money if you sold it to someone in CT


I thought Massachusetts was the last Communist state that could still receive imported pre-bans?



No CT still allows preban lowers and mags.
Link Posted: 11/30/2014 6:03:41 AM EDT
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No CT still allows preban lowers and mags.
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Originally Posted By backbencher:
Originally Posted By Aimless: That lower might be worth some money if you sold it to someone in CT


I thought Massachusetts was the last Communist state that could still receive imported pre-bans?


No CT still allows preban lowers and mags.


You can still build on a preban lower, or it has to be complete? Will keep in mind you can still import preban mags, have some old Glock 23 mags when I dig them out. Also a 20 round AR mag.
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