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Posted: 8/11/2018 11:09:27 PM EDT
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Interested in the P4xi as well. In for comments.
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Posted: 8/11/2018 11:31:59 PM EDT
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I won’t discourage you OP. I’ve been very happy with mine. Hard to beat in its price range. Do make sure you get the throw lever though.
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Posted: 8/11/2018 11:36:15 PM EDT
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I hope this gets spicy as I’m considering the same piece. If I know I want a 1-4, what is a better choice under $1K new?
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Posted: 8/11/2018 11:48:42 PM EDT
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Honestly I feel like it's a very good performing LPV for the price point. It's setup for 5.56 or .308 but it's not labeled for yardage so you can use it for whatever caliber you want if you learn the holds or use Strelok Pro. 1-4 is a good magnification range for most general purpose rifles. Daylight bright dot, excellent 1x FOV, and great glass for price range are winning points for sure. It's well known that the turrets are kinda junky feeling. You can get these optics for around $450 pretty commonly. I think one or two people have posted durability issues but you don't see the complaint very much. I think the Leupold VXR Patrol was the only other optic that offered value near it for the price and it the Steiner offers better 1x on the low end.
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Posted: 8/11/2018 11:59:04 PM EDT
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Keep the T-1 (in case you don’t like the Steiner) and try one out. I plan on picking one up for one of maybe AR’s so I can toss my Trijicon TA-11 back on a .308.
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Posted: 8/12/2018 1:20:39 AM EDT
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I've had three. Third one never got taken out of the box and went to someone else. First two broke during normal use. Once in a carbine class, another during regular practice at the range. Great warranty, nice glass, good on paper, but mushy turrets and terrible quality control. Want a reliable, not absurdely expensive 1-4? Go Trijicon.
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Posted: 8/12/2018 1:30:25 AM EDT
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I love mine and will buy another.
Around 2,500 rounds of 5.56 fired with it, no issues. The wide FOV and clear glass set it apart from everything else around $500 price point. Vortex Razor HD 1-6x are dropping in price though, now around $1k. If you can tolerate the weight and value the extra magnification, they are compelling value. Still double the price of the Steiner. |
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Posted: 8/12/2018 3:20:10 AM EDT
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Don't buy a P4xi, buy a used P4xi... save some cash.
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Posted: 8/12/2018 3:27:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
I've had three. Third one never got taken out of the box and went to someone else. First two broke during normal use. Once in a carbine class, another during regular practice at the range. Great warranty, nice glass, good on paper, but mushy turrets and terrible quality control. Want a reliable, not absurdely expensive 1-4? Go Trijicon. |
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Posted: 8/12/2018 6:11:16 AM EDT
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I won’t discourage you OP. I’ve been very happy with mine. Hard to beat in its price range. Do make sure you get the throw lever though. I have a couple of M5Xis and a T5Xi; the P4Xis can be found so cheap that I decided to try one just because of the name on a “cheap” short-range 3 gun. It’s a nice scope for the price. |
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Posted: 8/12/2018 6:18:02 AM EDT
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I love mine and will buy another. Around 2,500 rounds of 5.56 fired with it, no issues. The wide FOV and clear glass set it apart from everything else around $500 price point. Vortex Razor HD 1-6x are dropping in price though, now around $1k. If you can tolerate the weight and value the extra magnification, they are compelling value. Still double the price of the Steiner. I’m thinking about trying the Gen II E but at $1,200 it doesn’t seem like the smartest decision. |
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Posted: 8/12/2018 7:35:48 AM EDT
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I always see comments on how awesome the P4xi is but then going on the EE they are everywhere and I was always wondered why.
I personally didn't like the reticle on them either but I guess once you use the ACSS everything else is kinda meh |
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Posted: 8/12/2018 10:23:10 AM EDT
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How do these compare to something like the Burris XTR II 1-5?
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Posted: 8/12/2018 10:24:25 AM EDT
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I've have aimpoints (comp m2, m3, pro and two t-1, currently BACK to a t-1) mini acogs, and LPVOs (all budget level through the years)... Because I can never leave well enough the hell alone, I'm considering selling the T1 I've got (only have 1 rifle these days, believe it or not) and eyeballing the Steiner... Tell me I'm crazy. |
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Posted: 8/12/2018 11:10:34 AM EDT
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I always see comments on how awesome the P4xi is but then going on the EE they are everywhere and I was always wondered why. I personally didn't like the reticle on them either but I guess once you use the ACSS everything else is kinda meh PA has it right with going mils/moa on some of the reticles |
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Posted: 8/12/2018 12:08:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Steiner reticle is for a 200yd zero using 62gr moving at 3100 fps, or some such nonsense. PA has it right with going mils/moa on some of the reticles  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/12/2018 12:47:40 PM EDT
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Idk where you got that but here is m855 assuming 2830 FPS. 3100 FPS basically makes all the holdovers work for meters. (327, 443, 553 667 yardages.)https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/354072/Screenshot_20180812-080709-638327.JPG  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/12/2018 4:14:37 PM EDT
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I like most mine just fine, wouldn’t talk you out of it.
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Posted: 8/12/2018 8:57:22 PM EDT
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Mine has been good to me but I never use that rifle anymore because I prefer my RDS equipped guns. I guess my only complaint is that it's pretty bulky compared to the MROs my other rifles have.
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Posted: 8/12/2018 9:52:13 PM EDT
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The durability issues scare me. I think I'm going with an Accupower 1-4.
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