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Posted: 4/29/2015 12:39:11 AM EDT
Ok I have a Ares Armor .308 Signature Billet lower. It's an 80%er but that doesn't really matter. The issue is the Takedown pin extends at least 3/16" past the body of the lower and the pivot pin does not even get flush with the body of the lower. I tried pins out of a CMMG and Fulton Armory LPK.

Does anyone have any ideas? I will measure with a caliper tomorrow. On all my AR15'S the pins are sticking out even and not very far. I know these will work just looks funky.

Thanks all

PasoGunner
Link Posted: 4/29/2015 5:18:29 AM EDT
there is a chart some where that lists all of the different pins used between all of the manufacturers

here is a huge thread that may tell you which pin you need but it may not include the brand of lower you have

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_121/378850_AR10_FAQ_and_information_Small_Update_2012.html
Link Posted: 4/29/2015 7:06:06 AM EDT
i'd contact ares and see what they say. welcome to the non standardized lr308. i got an aero precision upper and lower and the pins that came with the LPK wouldnt fit either. had to order them directly from aero.
Link Posted: 4/29/2015 11:35:04 AM EDT
Thanks guys. This is my first hiccup with this build! Probably not the last. I will call Ares Armor here in a little while.

I will try and find that chart. Thanks for the link and all the help.

PasoGunner
Link Posted: 4/29/2015 11:38:12 AM EDT
Dumb question but did you accidentally swap the pins? The pivot pin is longer than the takedown pin.
Link Posted: 4/30/2015 5:29:43 PM EDT
Not a dumb question. I just rechecked the pins and they are in the right way. I have pictures but haven't u played them yet. I will try and call Ares Armor and see what they say. I was gonna measure holes but can't measure lower thickness cause I can t measure with the milled indentation.
Link Posted: 4/30/2015 5:47:50 PM EDT


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Ok here is a pic of each pin. Both the Fulton Armory and CMMG LPK's are the same size pins.

Any help would be appreciated. I have an email into Ares Armor.

Thanks everyone
Link Posted: 4/30/2015 5:59:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/30/2015 6:03:22 PM EDT by PasoGunner24]
Well I just got off the phone with Ares Armor. They say their LPK will have pins that will be flush. Only reason I bought these other 2 kits is because they were out of stock and they said "any" DPMS style LPK would work. SO I now need to buy my 3rd LPK for this rifle. I am gonna be mad as you know what if their pins are not right!

Any other solutions would be helpful. I was hoping I could just but the pins from them but NO, I have to buy an entire LPK. The ones I had bought did not come with FCG (have trigger already) but theirs will have the FCG.

Oh well. Learning lessons on the LR308 builds pretty quick!

Thanks everyone. If anyone knows a better plan than this Please Let Me Know!

Ares Armor LPK
Link Posted: 5/1/2015 3:27:40 AM EDT
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Does anyone know of pins that go by length? I would love to get just the pins.

Any help is appreciated
Link Posted: 5/1/2015 9:35:45 PM EDT
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Does anyone know of pins that go by length? I would love to get just the pins.

Any help is appreciated
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IIRC the Ares Armor 308 Lowers are re-badged TM 308's...The P/T pins should measure .276" to .278" in diameter, as
to pin lengths I don't recall off the bat...I would have to get to the safe and check...
Link Posted: 5/1/2015 11:18:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/1/2015 11:19:12 PM EDT by PasoGunner24]
Thanks for the info. Unfortunately I can't but just pins from TM either. All my AR15 lowers have been TM 80%.

Link Posted: 5/2/2015 1:46:34 PM EDT
Originally Posted By PasoGunner24:
Ok I have a Ares Armor .308 Signature Billet lower. It's an 80%er but that doesn't really matter. The issue is the Takedown pin extends at least 3/16" past the body of the lower and the pivot pin does not even get flush with the body of the lower. I tried pins out of a CMMG and Fulton Armory LPK.

Does anyone have any ideas? I will measure with a caliper tomorrow. On all my AR15'S the pins are sticking out even and not very far. I know these will work just looks funky.

Thanks all

PasoGunner
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Aero Precision's M5 pins are a little longer than the rest. Try posting in their forum, they might give you a measurement.
Link Posted: 5/2/2015 10:24:56 PM EDT
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Aero Precision's M5 pins are a little longer than the rest. Try posting in their forum, they might give you a measurement.
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Originally Posted By PasoGunner24:
Ok I have a Ares Armor .308 Signature Billet lower. It's an 80%er but that doesn't really matter. The issue is the Takedown pin extends at least 3/16" past the body of the lower and the pivot pin does not even get flush with the body of the lower. I tried pins out of a CMMG and Fulton Armory LPK.

Does anyone have any ideas? I will measure with a caliper tomorrow. On all my AR15'S the pins are sticking out even and not very far. I know these will work just looks funky.

Thanks all

PasoGunner


Aero Precision's M5 pins are a little longer than the rest. Try posting in their forum, they might give you a measurement.

Measurements of the Aero Precision pins as close as I can get with them installed:

Pivot Pin
OAL 1.714
Lower Width 1.550
Visible End .044
Effective Length 1.594

Takedown Pin
OAL 1.170
Lower Width 1.035
Visible End .015
Effective Length 1.050

Link Posted: 5/2/2015 11:04:30 PM EDT
jratc,

Thank you so much. I will measure my lower and pins when I get off work.
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