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Posted: 9/9/2004 4:07:17 PM EST
Which is the "best". How much do they usually run, etc...

Pics and links would be awesome.
Link Posted: 9/9/2004 4:10:42 PM EST
AAC and Gemtech make the best ones in my opinion. I like the Gemtech M4QD.
Link Posted: 9/9/2004 4:29:53 PM EST
Flash or Sound? If it's sound, then you should also cross-post in the M16 section.
Link Posted: 9/9/2004 4:39:42 PM EST
depends, for what cal.?

generally speaking and owning several, I think (in my opinion) that AWC, Gemtech and SWR are the best. AWC though, has the best EVARRRRR customer support!!
Link Posted: 9/9/2004 4:40:46 PM EST

Originally Posted By M4Guru:
I like the Gemtech M4QD.



Me too. I'm really thinking of picking one up.
Link Posted: 9/9/2004 5:44:56 PM EST
Oops, i would like to learn about sound suppressors. It will be for an AR15. How durible are suppressors? I shoot mainly Q3131A. How many rounds before suppressors go bad?
Link Posted: 9/9/2004 6:03:26 PM EST
Can you own a suppressor in Washington State?

Bob
Link Posted: 9/9/2004 6:15:28 PM EST

Originally Posted By Ky_Bob:
Can you own a suppressor in Washington State?

Bob



I believe the answer to that is yes. But it appears to be a gross misdemeanor to use one with a firearm, or to be more exact:

RCW 9.41.250
Dangerous weapons -- Penalty.
Every person who:
(1) Manufactures, sells, or disposes of or possesses any instrument or weapon of the kind usually known as slung shot, sand club, or metal knuckles, or spring blade knife, or any knife the blade of which is automatically released by a spring mechanism or other mechanical device, or any knife having a blade which opens, or falls, or is ejected into position by the force of gravity, or by an outward, downward, or centrifugal thrust or movement;
(2) Furtively carries with intent to conceal any dagger, dirk, pistol, or other dangerous weapon; or
(3) Uses any contrivance or device for suppressing the noise of any firearm,
is guilty of a gross misdemeanor punishable under chapter 9A.20 RCW.

Go figure.
Link Posted: 9/9/2004 6:16:33 PM EST
WOW! That is silly.
Bob
Link Posted: 9/9/2004 6:40:59 PM EST

Originally Posted By tumbleweed:

Originally Posted By Ky_Bob:
Can you own a suppressor in Washington State?

Bob



I believe the answer to that is yes. But it appears to be a gross misdemeanor to use one with a firearm, or to be more exact:

RCW 9.41.250
Dangerous weapons -- Penalty.
Every person who:
(1) Manufactures, sells, or disposes of or possesses any instrument or weapon of the kind usually known as slung shot, sand club, or metal knuckles, or spring blade knife, or any knife the blade of which is automatically released by a spring mechanism or other mechanical device, or any knife having a blade which opens, or falls, or is ejected into position by the force of gravity, or by an outward, downward, or centrifugal thrust or movement;
(2) Furtively carries with intent to conceal any dagger, dirk, pistol, or other dangerous weapon; or
(3) Uses any contrivance or device for suppressing the noise of any firearm,
is guilty of a gross misdemeanor punishable under chapter 9A.20 RCW.

Go figure.



Hmmm, interesting
Link Posted: 9/9/2004 10:06:28 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/9/2004 10:17:38 PM EST
Will a screw on suppressor ad acuracy to an M-4, since it adds lenth?
Link Posted: 9/9/2004 10:33:49 PM EST
Own it but not use it, another silly law for WA.
Link Posted: 9/9/2004 11:36:17 PM EST

Originally Posted By Troy:
WA state suppressor owners can only use their suppressors out of state (which requires you to file NFA paperwork in advance to transport your suppressor over state lines). You can't legally use the suppressor in the state.

-Troy

I must say, thats a bunch of bs. *sigh* Oh well, bright side is, I get to save money i guess.
Link Posted: 9/10/2004 3:49:27 AM EST

Originally Posted By A96HondaAccordEX:

Originally Posted By Troy:
WA state suppressor owners can only use their suppressors out of state (which requires you to file NFA paperwork in advance to transport your suppressor over state lines). You can't legally use the suppressor in the state.

-Troy

I must say, thats a bunch of bs. *sigh* Oh well, bright side is, I get to save money i guess.



No paperwork for suppressors.

Bob
Link Posted: 9/10/2004 5:01:26 AM EST

Originally Posted By Troy:
WA state suppressor owners can only use their suppressors out of state (which requires you to file NFA paperwork in advance to transport your suppressor over state lines). You can't legally use the suppressor in the state.

-Troy



Silencers do not need Federal permission to cross state lines with the owner AFAIK.
Link Posted: 9/10/2004 5:12:35 AM EST
Link Posted: 9/10/2004 5:47:35 AM EST

Originally Posted By Dragnet:
Will a screw on suppressor ad acuracy to an M-4, since it adds lenth?



No. Denny from Denny's Guns was talking about this just a few days ago. The turbulence in the suppressor ever so slightly degrades accuracy. A well mounted suppressor (i.e. have your bi-locks installed by Gem-Tech) will degrade accuracy less so than a poorly mounted counterpart. If the suppressor is not concentric with the bore you risk baffles strikes, which will poop on accuracy and damage a suppressor.

Personally, I am looking at buying a Gem-Tech HALO, a TPR-S, and an M4-02. I'll probably be making my order around the end of the year or at the beginning of '05.
Link Posted: 9/10/2004 6:24:22 AM EST

Originally Posted By Dragnet:
Will a screw on suppressor ad acuracy to an M-4, since it adds lenth?



Every can I have ever owned has tightened groups. The only screw-on can I have for 5.56 is Gemtech M4-02, and yes, the groups tighten with this can. I am not sure it has anything to do with length though, Length adds FPS.
Link Posted: 9/10/2004 6:42:21 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/10/2004 6:44:13 AM EST by New_guy]
I have the Advanced Armament "M4-2000" for my CAR-15. It uses a quick-mount flash hider, not a screw-on mount.

In an article I read several months ago (Guns & Weapons for Law Enforcement, or Special Weapons for Military & Police, don't recall which), it tied with the ArmsTech suppressor for top place in sound reduction.

No personal experience with any other than AAC, but GemTech, ArmsTech, and several others received very good reviews.

Regarding longevity, the AAC unit I have carries a lifetime warranty, and is rated for even full-auto; magazine-fed, not belt-fed full-auto.

Base price is $625.00. Extra $50 for black finish, plus $200 transfer tax, plus sales tax, shipping, etc; ended up around $920-$940 all told.

www.advanced-armament.com
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