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Posted: 6/14/2003 7:05:48 PM EDT
I would like to experiment with a 300 whisper
upper with a suppressor but from what I have
gathered, it would not be legal on a post ban
lower. Would this be OK on a pre ban lower?
I am curious as my only other option is a
bolt gun! Any input would be most appreciated.
Should I need to post this elsewhere please
inform.

Thanks
Link Posted: 6/14/2003 7:10:24 PM EDT
Need a $200 tax stamp
Link Posted: 6/14/2003 7:25:53 PM EDT
As long as you have a pre-ban lower and you have the NFA Tax stamp for the suppressor and the barrel is 16" barrel you should be OK someone correct me if I'm wrong
Link Posted: 6/14/2003 8:31:51 PM EDT
Originally Posted By archad: As long as you have a pre-ban lower and you have the NFA Tax stamp for the suppressor and the barrel is 16" barrel you should be OK someone correct me if I'm wrong
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looks good to me
Link Posted: 6/15/2003 4:09:52 PM EDT
flash suppressor or sound suppressor?
Link Posted: 6/15/2003 4:26:23 PM EDT
Originally Posted By JustL00king: flash suppressor or sound suppressor?
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Doesn't matter. Either can only be put on a pre-ban. No post-bans need apply.
Link Posted: 6/19/2003 12:22:48 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Gloftoe: Doesn't matter. Either can only be put on a pre-ban. No post-bans need apply.
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I have put them on POSTBAN AR15 AOW's without a problem... Does that count? :-)
Link Posted: 6/19/2003 12:56:24 AM EDT
1)On the subject, how much to sound suppressors cost? 2)What "hassles" go along with the 200 tax stamp? Do you waive your right to privacy and let the ATF knock on your door whenever they want? Etc
Link Posted: 6/19/2003 2:29:27 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/19/2003 2:35:40 AM EDT by Gecko]
Hokie: In general you get an ATF Form 1 (I think that is the correct form for a noise suppressor) from ATF site or nearest office. Fill it out, get the local police chief or sheriff to sign it, get finger printed and photographed, mail it to ATF along with $200, wait 4-6 months. Can't answer the question on cost of suppressor. Several hundred, I would think, plus the barrel work, if required.
Link Posted: 6/19/2003 5:22:45 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/19/2003 5:35:00 AM EDT by philsAR]
Originally Posted By Hokie: 2)What "hassles" go along with the 200 tax stamp? Do you waive your right to privacy and let the ATF knock on your door whenever they want? Etc
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The hassles are in obtaining the stamp. FBI background check, fingerprints, OK from local authorities ect. You do not give up 4th amendment rights for owning a sound supresser or machine gun. You do give up these rights if you become a licensed FFL or Class 3 dealer. [url=http://www.ar15.com/forums/announcement.html?b=3&f=14&id=177]More info here[/url] Quote from NFA FAQ As to one who is neither a FFL nor SOT, but only owns weapons regulated under the National Firearms Act, ATF may only compel you to show an agent upon request the registration paperwork, that is the Form 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 or whatever else might have been used to register the weapon. See 26 U.S.C. sec. 5841(e). They do not have any right to compel you to produce the weapon. As always the Fourth amendment applies, and ATF may not enter your home or other place of storage of the NFA weapon, nor seize the weapon, without a warrant, or without falling under an exception the Supreme Court has created to the operation of the Fourth amendment, or without your consent.
Link Posted: 6/19/2003 5:58:50 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/19/2003 6:00:35 AM EDT by SBR7_11]
Originally Posted By Gecko: Hokie: In general you get an ATF Form 1 (I think that is the correct form for a noise suppressor) from ATF site or nearest office. Fill it out, get the local police chief or sheriff to sign it, get finger printed and photographed, mail it to ATF along with $200, wait 4-6 months. Can't answer the question on cost of suppressor. Several hundred, I would think, plus the barrel work, if required.
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[blue] ATF 5320.1 is a Form-1: Make and register ATF 5320.4 is a Form-4: Tax Paid Transfer Price of a 223/556 can will cost anywhere from $300 for Triple-X to the Gemtech TPR-S @ $650 to the AWC Tundertrap @ $995, add $200 for transfer to you on Form-4. 1 stamp for use on a 16" or longer gun, 2 stamps if you plan to use on barrel shorter than 16" (SBR)[/blue] Here is a 2 stamp rifle: Form-1 for SBR and Form-4 for the suppressor. [img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid58/p1d795ea1a8635718bedcf2b85c35a64e/fc681ade.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 6/19/2003 12:55:07 PM EDT
Be sure to check your state's laws... ALABAMA allows Full Auto but NOT SBR! Go figure that one out... [banghead]
Link Posted: 6/19/2003 10:17:23 PM EDT
Coastal suppressor are available for $225. SS tube with Inconel baffles... For the money, they are very hard to beat. [url]http://www.triplebreakproducts.com/Coastal/m-223.htm[/url] [image]http://www.triplebreakproducts.com/images/Coastal/mvc00023.jpg[/image] mark
Link Posted: 6/20/2003 6:51:35 PM EDT
Thanks for all of your input. Right now I am undecided whether to pursue a pre ban or wait on the AWB to expire. Thanks again for all the info.
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