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Posted: 10/17/2004 8:49:59 AM EDT
hollow... any suggestions??? I have a feeling i am gonna learn from this costly mistake. All replies will be greatly appreciated.
Link Posted: 10/17/2004 9:04:25 AM EDT
Now you know the value of a chrome lined chamber .

Try a USGI steel cleaning rod.
Link Posted: 10/17/2004 9:10:58 AM EDT
hmmmm.... tried it, did not work... went to hardware store and got 3/16" steel rod un treaded and tried it in sections and still it is not budging.... where in nh are you i can meet you to let u have a look....
Link Posted: 10/17/2004 12:03:18 PM EDT
lock the bolt back and place the buttstock on the ground. put your cleaning rod in the muzzle and let it drop. Let gravity do the work for you. You might have to do this a few times...quite a few times if you also have a dowel jammed in there. Don't beat on the rod with anything because you don't want to score the chamber when it finally breaks loose. I wouldn't recommend using any lubricant on this one because the dowel will soak it up and expand.

+1 on the chrome chamber, and don't use any lacquerred ammo anymore
Link Posted: 10/17/2004 12:08:18 PM EDT

Sorry for your troubles and hope the weapon returns to active duty.

Link Posted: 10/17/2004 4:37:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/17/2004 4:38:42 PM EDT by Horsky]
well gravity has yet to work..... this case is really jammed i think.... although the dowel seems to be giving me the most trouble... any other ideas... i have removed the barrel from the upper so i can see the case has not move at all but i did get some saw dust.... maybe i should get in on the group buy? lol
Link Posted: 10/18/2004 2:32:24 AM EDT
Link Posted: 10/18/2004 3:47:04 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/18/2004 3:48:02 AM EDT by Horsky]
it is a fired case.... i would not be messing around with this if it were not... also it is fully seated into the chamber
Link Posted: 10/18/2004 4:11:29 AM EDT
If you have the barrel off the upper, get a stuck case remover like reloaders use to get stuck cases out of sizeing dies. Or simply drill and tap the primer hole to 1/4 x 20 thread. then use a 1/4x20 bolt and a washer or piece of flatbar to pull the case. I've done this on dies with stuck cases.
Link Posted: 10/18/2004 10:50:59 AM EDT
thanks for the helphe... so now i need a way to get it out... any ideas for this one?
Link Posted: 10/18/2004 11:11:59 AM EDT
Where is the dowel and long is it. And, how can it be stuck?
Link Posted: 10/18/2004 11:21:55 AM EDT
the dowel can be seen 2 inches up from the chamber mouth... and is eproximately 10" long i am guessing due to it being a 16" barrel.
Link Posted: 10/18/2004 1:44:03 PM EDT
3/16" extra long drill bit for the dowel ?
Link Posted: 10/18/2004 1:51:19 PM EDT
could that drill bit damage the barrel?
Link Posted: 10/18/2004 2:05:26 PM EDT
Will the barrel fit in your oven? If so, put it in the oven at the lowest temp (125-150F) and let it dry out the wood for a few hours. You could even do it manually if you turn the oven on, wait for the temp to reach about 125-130F, then turn the oven off. Repeat procedure every 30 min for 4-6 hours. Use an oven thermometer to measure temp.

It should shrink enough for it to drop out, as long as you didn't mushroom the ends too badly.

Link Posted: 10/18/2004 2:09:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/18/2004 2:09:51 PM EDT by Horsky]
it is in the oven now!!!
Link Posted: 10/18/2004 2:21:15 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Horsky:
could that drill bit damage the barrel?

Yeah, it was a joke.
Link Posted: 10/19/2004 3:49:45 AM EDT
dowel has yet to come out..... i think it has been the whole problem... any suggestions still need imput... please help!!!
Link Posted: 10/19/2004 5:11:16 PM EDT
grind down a ball puller for a 45 cal muzzleloader... put it on your bench rod and try to pull the dowel? Maybe taping up a CO2 ball ejector and firing down the bore, see if it'll eject the dowel and casing? If those don't work, my next round of ideas starts to carry increasing potential for damaging your barrel...
Link Posted: 10/20/2004 2:47:22 AM EDT
Link Posted: 10/20/2004 2:27:54 PM EDT
i have a vice.... how do you think i took the barrel off?
Link Posted: 10/21/2004 7:05:17 PM EDT
well iguess all your knowledge has been tapped.... thanks for the help... maybe a miricale will happen and the dowel will just dissapear... thanks for all the input.
Link Posted: 10/21/2004 7:54:28 PM EDT
You might want to consider this, get a muzzle protector (one that will fit inside the FH or brake or one that will fit on the barrel end if there is no brake or FH) then with the shortest steel piece of cleaning rod and a mallet or hammer, slowly try to tap it thru enough to where you can hold the dowel with the vice and then try to slowly pull while you twist off the barrel. twist the way the grooves in the barrel will help you out.
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 12:05:04 AM EDT
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 8:48:37 AM EDT

Do you have access to an air compressor?

Link Posted: 10/22/2004 4:02:00 PM EDT
tried to forceit out with air... did now work maybe i did it wrong... so yes i have access to an air compressor.
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 11:02:07 PM EDT
You can try and freeze the upper, which will make the metal contract, thus causing the interior diameter to increase, however it will cause a waterlogged dowel to expand, possibly a catch 22! My personal choice would be a remove the barrel, clamp it in a vise and use a plastic coated (metal one piece) cleaning rod with a 24oz dead blow mallet. The drill bit is an idea, but I would definately only use that as a last resort! Hardened Carbide steel in a Chrome Moly barrel would be a bad idea!

If anything that you should have learned from this experience, it should be don't use a dowel to try and remove a FTE! Sorry it happened that sucks! Wolf ammo is crap, I have used it and once you try NATO M855 or XM193 you really realize why quality ammo is worth the money. Just my $.02
Link Posted: 10/29/2004 3:39:57 PM EDT
woot!!!! i got it all removed!!! now the barrel is threaded and has a bird cage flash suppressor!!!
it has been a long hard road but patienence paid off!
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