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Posted: 6/16/2012 7:27:57 PM EDT
I have a stuck LC11 reload stuck in my chamber and the bolt is stuck also,any safe idea's other than letting my Gunsmith deal with it? My common sense says to leave it to him!! GT27
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Posted: 6/16/2012 7:44:47 PM EDT
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Put the rifle on "safe"
Close the collapsible stock (if you have one). Grasp the charging handle and smack the buttstock against the ground. Repeat the smack to the ground as needed to get the bolt to unlock and extract the round. This procedure is called "mortaring". It allows you to gain enough force to make the bolt unlock and rip out the cartridge from the chamber. |
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Posted: 6/17/2012 5:31:49 AM EDT
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I just tap the charging handle with a rubber mallet
on the right side while unlocking the CH... Another thing that works is while pointing the rifle downrange turn it so the ejection port is facing down and while unlocking the CH just smack it foward on the edge of the table or the bench you're shooting from... |
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Posted: 6/18/2012 2:22:02 PM EDT
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$85.00 to fix
 , caused by a defective Lee 223 die set,and using cast bullets.The die was not not sizing the case fully and, also the GS made me promise not to shoot anymore cast bullets in it.He spent 1 hour cleaning the lead from the barrel and the locking lugs!!!! The design is made to shoot jacketed only! I knew this , I was just trying to load a round that would cycle the action,decent MOA,and bullets could be cast of wheel weights on the cheap! Not happening with this caliber once you get above 2,000 fps cast turns it into a FUBAR!!! Sticking with jacketed bullets for this platform from now,lesson learned!!! Thanks for the reply's!
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Posted: 6/18/2012 2:53:22 PM EDT
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I just tap the charging handle with a rubber mallet on the right side while unlocking the CH... Another thing that works is while pointing the rifle downrange turn it so the ejection port is facing down and while unlocking the CH just smack it foward on the edge of the table or the bench you're shooting from... I wouldn't recommend this way because of safety reasons with the free float firing pin. The above 'mortar' technique would be easier and safer as a result. |
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Posted: 6/30/2012 9:23:16 AM EDT
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Thanks for the reply's all,next time "Mortaring" will be the method I use,crossing my fingers for no "next time"!
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Posted: 6/30/2012 8:00:49 PM EDT
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GT27,
Anytime you decide to push a lead cast bullet past 1200fps, it needs a gas check. Even with a gas check, don't push the lead cast bullet past 1800fps. Hence, about the only place that a gas check lead cast bullet belongs in a 223 rrifle is when you are going for subsonic loads. If you are looking to use cast bullet in an rifle for a savings, then think 7.62 X 39, with very heavy gas checked bullets at under 1800fps (will cycle the action just fine). Also, even with hard cast litho bullets, it's best to tempter the bullets as well (free drop them out of the mold into a bucket of cold water). As for the lee dies, are you sure that you have the sizer set so it is kissing the shell holder under sizing ram tension. Granted that I have faced some sizers over the year that have been machined a tad too long that you could not get them to sizer correctly, but more often its the fact that one adjusts the sizer to kiss the shell holder under no tension, and when sizing under tension, this will increase the gap between the two by .010's to .020's of not setting the shoulder back/full sizing the case correctly. |
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Posted: 7/5/2012 6:24:01 PM EDT
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Thanks Dano523, I'm using a Lee Bator mold drops at .225,average 55 grain bullets,water quenched,GC'ed,IMR4895,trying to work up a functionable,decent accuracy,at least a 4 MOA round to be acceptable. From what I hear it's a lost cause with the Bator,and the RCBS or Saeco was recommended because of the better profile.Few are successful with the lead I guess because I don't see that many praises using them.Right now I have some IMI 62 grn. that have a cannelure.and when I crimp at the cannelure their too long to function in the mag! I tried seating above the cannelure,then using the Lee FC die and had some bullet set back????? This platform is the most finicky with ammo that I have ever used!! The learning curve seems to be the size of Mt. Everest to me,and I've been reloading for 35 years!! Thanks to all for the input, and any more input you may have,my opinion you are never to old to learn! GT27
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