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Posted: 12/30/2003 6:38:49 AM EDT
Seems that this is recalled ammo that Speer repackaged for sale to non LEO/Gov't consumers.


CCI/SPEER GOLD DOT

RECALL: AMMUNITION PRODUCED BETWEEN 9/25/01 & 3/31/02 IN 25 AUTO, 32 AUTO, 380 AUTO,9MM LUGER, 9MM LUGER +P, 40 S&W CALIBERS

You should discontinue use of the subject ammunition due to an intermittent, low frequency occurrence of primer misfires.

Speer Gold Dot 25 Auto, 32 Auto, 380 Auto, 9MM Luger, 9MM Luger +P and 40 S&W ammunition produced between 9/25/01 and 3/31/02 should be returned to the factory for a no charge replacement. Replacement ammunition will incorporate an “A” mark in the primer cup for identification purposes.

SPEER GOLD DOT AMMUNITION RECALL LOT #’S

Letters in Lot Code indicate month and year of production. Recall period is from September 25th, 2001 to March 31st, 2002. Lot #’s with the sequence of letters shown below are part of the recall.

2001
J25Gxx to J30Gxx
KxxGxx
LxxGxx
MxxGxx

2­002
AxxHxx
BxxHxx
CxxHxx

CCI/Speer (866) 288-7436 or (208) 746-2351
2299 Snake River Avenue
Lewiston, ID 83501


Source:

Company Notice, April, 2002



Speer Recalls Gold Dot Ammunition
Speer Gold Dot Ammunition -380 Auto, 9mm, 9mm+P, and 40 S&W. An intermittent, low frequency occurrence of primer misfires may occur under certain circumstances in several calibers of Gold Dot ammunition. This only applies to Gold Dot ammunition of the specified calibers produced between 09-25-01 and 03-31-02.
An unauthorized change in manufacturing process was made in late September [2001]. This resulted in primers being used that did not meet specifications. Those primers are mostly used for ammo going to Government Contract shipments. However some of the ammo does go out through distributors to local and state contracts.
Speer Gold Dot 380 Auto, 9mm, 9mm+P, and 40 S&W ammunition produced between 09-25-01 and 03-31-02 should be returned to the factory for a no-charge replacement. Replacement ammunition will incorporate an "A" mark on the primer cup for identification purposes.

You should discontinue use of the subject ammunition and follow the procedure below immediately.


To return ammunition subject to this notice, please provide the information requested below by email, toll free fax, or toll free hotline. A customer service person will then contact you to explain how to return and replace any ammunition affected by the recall.
Telephone 866-286-7436, or FAX 866-665-2738, or email ammo@seg-outdoor.com
Letters in lot code indicate month and year of production. Recall period is from Sept. 25th, 2001 to March 31st, 2002. Lot numbers with the sequence of letters shown below are part of the recall.
J26Gxx to J30Gxx (September 2001)
K01Gxx to K31Gxx (October 2001)
L01Gxx to L30Gxx (November 2001)
M01Gxx to M31Gxx (December 2001)

A01Hxx to A31Hxx (January 2002)
B01Hxx to B28Hxx (February 2002)
C01Hxx to C01Hxx (March 2002)

Also the labels will be a part number for specific breeds of ammo. The only Gold Dot parts numbers being recalled are:
53612 9mm 115 gr. +P+
53614 9mm 115 gr.
53617 9mm 124 gr. +P
53618 9mm 124 gr
53619 9mm 147 gr
53730 9mm 124 gr. (US Govt Spec and Sales)

53947 .40 165 gr. (Mostly sold to BATF)
53961 .40 155 gr.
53962 .40 180 gr.
53970 .40 165 gr. (US Govt Spec and Sales)

Also an extremely small quantity of .25, .32, and .380 ammo was manufactured with these primers. Presently one lot of .380 boxed in 50 round boxes is being recalled.
To qualify for recall, ammunition must (a) be from one of the recalled lot numbers and (b) have a part number listed above. Ammunition with the indicated lot numbers but a part number other than those listed is not being recalled.

Link Posted: 12/30/2003 7:14:14 AM EDT
Yep.  The lot numbers for the 9mm and .40 Gold Dot, shown in the photos on Ammoman.com, are in the range of the recalled lots.  

Link Posted: 12/30/2003 8:59:44 AM EDT
Originally Posted By eswanson:
Yep.  The lot numbers for the 9mm and .40 Gold Dot, shown in the photos on Ammoman.com, are in the range of the recalled lots.  

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Um the 9mm is not part of that recall look at the lot numbers again for the 124gr stuff ammoman has.

ammomans (at least by the pic) is MxxHxx not MxxGxx. It don't fall into the recalled stuff. at least based on the lot number in that particular pic.
Link Posted: 12/30/2003 9:55:17 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/30/2003 9:55:52 AM EDT by eswanson]
I stand corrected, on both the .40 and the 9mm.  I didn't check the second letter in the code.  

That's good, because that's a good price for good 9mm.  I wish he had some of the .380.
Link Posted: 12/30/2003 11:07:21 AM EDT
Even though this lot is not in said recall, I believe that the marking indicates there is a problem with using this as duty ammo.

[url]http://ammoman.com/IMAGES/Speer_40-155-0.jpg[/url]
Link Posted: 12/30/2003 11:12:13 AM EDT
"Duty ammo", as in on-duty LEO, yes.  But my concern would be that it had primers that had a "low frequency occurence" of misfires, as did the stuff in the recall.  The stuff ammoman is selling could have cosmetic blemishes or something; the "Not for Duty Use" tag could simply be to discourage departments from buying this cheaper ammo instead of the cosmetically perfect, more expensive "Duty" ammo.
Link Posted: 12/30/2003 7:38:29 PM EDT
if you look at ammomans ammo, it really is in these recall lots.  The numbers are indicative of the recalled lots.

I bought the 9mm 124 +p

When shooting it through my ruger p-85, and falaraks g-19, it was apparent that there is some issues with the primers.  We did not have any misfires, but the primer showed signs of bulging w/ my ruger, and a high pressure flattening with the glock.

If anyone is interested, I can post a pic or two, in the next day or so.

BTW, i have no problem using this, 200 rds, not one actual problem, and my 2 9mm's, (ruger and beretta 92) are both tanks that can handle hot loads.

So no problem there.

TXL
Link Posted: 12/30/2003 7:58:15 PM EDT
It's great ammo.  However, you'd have to be a fool to make it your defense load.

I have some of the 40 smith, but I hate just using it for target practice!
Link Posted: 12/30/2003 8:39:56 PM EDT
Bought this from Ammoman earlier this year and used up 900+ rounds so far in Glock 19 & 34 and have no problems.
Link Posted: 12/31/2003 5:37:46 AM EDT
I ordered have ordered 2000 rounds of this stuff from other vendors.  I have shoot 2 of the 250 round boxes with only one problem.  One of the 250 round boxes only had 200 rounds in it.  I contacted www.outdoormarksman.com and they sent me about 70 more rounds, plus a free hat.  Great shooting ammo and a great seller.

FB
Link Posted: 12/31/2003 10:00:57 AM EDT
I bought 500 rounds of the .380 for my wife's Gov't model.  We've shot 200 rounds so far without a problem but we only use it as range ammo, just to be on the safe side.
Link Posted: 12/31/2003 12:18:01 PM EDT
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