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Posted: 4/28/2009 2:09:47 AM EDT
Full mag rigged the way you would use it.

Just got to wondering if the clones save or add. Or the differences in models. Might add a post like this in general and see if the tactical guys will weigh in also after reviewing this threads results.

My 20"  CG " Coltguard" SP1 rifle that has a black UMC sling and a GI cleaning kit/A1sight tool stowed in its stock weighs

Link Posted: 4/28/2009 2:58:10 AM EDT
my "retro" is a 20" SP1.

not sure what it weighs, but it is several pounds lighter than my 11.5" carbine
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 3:29:03 AM EDT
My R604 clone is 7.4 lbs. loaded with 20 and without a sling.
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 3:49:33 AM EDT
My retro 604 clone, weighs 7.25 lbs, empty 20rd Colt mag, w/sling.
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 3:58:03 AM EDT
What are you using to weigh them???

I ask because bathroom scales (the only scale that most of us have) are not accurate enough and most don't show anything below 20#...
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 4:47:51 AM EDT
Hmmm, maybe I should take mine to the post office to have it weighed.  
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 5:31:46 AM EDT
Hmmm, maybe I should take mine to the post office to have it weighed.  

Not *my* Post Office!!!  

We have enough squirrels coming in to complain...  
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 6:48:06 AM EDT
I dunno, probably around 6 pounds with a loaded 30rd mag and fiberlite stock. Little more with aluminum stock.
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 6:59:00 AM EDT
Looks like the SP1 and 20" A1 clones weigh in at 6.35 empty and 6.75 loaded and w/sling:

Link Posted: 4/28/2009 10:01:38 AM EDT
I was using a Postal Scale
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 10:07:16 AM EDT
Hmmm, maybe I should take mine to the post office to have it weighed.  

I actually did that here a while back. The postmaster here is a friend. I had to take it in two trips, however. First the upper, then the Lower. It was a flattop with an aluminum freefloat handguard and a 18" heavy barrel though. Can't remember what the lower was, but the upper was 4 lbs. 9 oz.
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 1:06:16 PM EDT
What are you using to weigh them???

a digital bathroom scale twice same result was zeroed

I ask because bathroom scales (the only scale that most of us have) are not accurate enough and most don't show anything below 20#..

Hold rifle stand on scale. Set down rifle weigh yourself again .

Link Posted: 4/28/2009 1:20:47 PM EDT
601 7 lbs
Colt A2 7 lb 14 oz
607 6 lb 12 oz
SP1 Carbine 6 lb 10 oz
all with an empty 20 round mag on a "Go Postal" scale
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 1:46:39 PM EDT
I weighed a Colt 607 once, seems it was just over 5 and a half pounds if I recall correctly.
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 2:08:34 PM EDT
I should add, my 607 clone is a 16" barrel, so it would be a bit heavier.  Interesting to note, switching uppers between it and the SP1 carbine, the SP1 is 2 oz lighter than the 607.
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 2:18:17 PM EDT
I used a digital fish scale.  My 7.4 is really 7 pounds, 6 ounces.
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 2:21:40 PM EDT
Wait a minute, doesn't a fish scale make it "this.....................big!"
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 2:21:46 PM EDT
zero lbs
I need one
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 2:24:51 PM EDT
Wait a minute, doesn't a fish scale make it "this.....................big!"

7.4 lbs and 78" long...
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 3:13:55 PM EDT
My, XM16E1 weighed in at 6.75 with sling and empty mag. NDS lower nontrap door stock slick chrome bcg
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 4:15:30 PM EDT
weighed my carbine on a postal scale, unloaded 5.8lbs
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 4:48:08 PM EDT
I will bring my wrestling scales home from school this weekend and weigh my 20" rifle and 16" carbine.  Now both of these builds are currently on A2 lowers, until Nodak opens up a run.  How much weight difference is there between an A1 and A2 lower?

I do know both are a lot lighter than my Colt 6920 and CMMG A4 with all the other stuff on them
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 4:52:08 PM EDT
Mine are all under 7 lbs unloaded, but in my limited experience, the weights in AKAR's chart seem a little low...
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 11:45:11 PM EDT
I've been building a patio for the wife over the past few weekends.  Each day has been spent with a 15 pound pic, big shovel, bags of cement, wheel barrels of hard Arizona dirt, etc.  It's the never ending project.....was goofing around the other night with my new P mags and decided to pull the A1 rifle out to see how they looked....I nearly threw the rifle into the ceiling it felt so light!!!!!!!  LOLOL!!!!
Link Posted: 5/1/2009 12:57:15 AM EDT
I had the same experience after helping a buddy with an engine swap.  Nothing seemed heavy for a while after putting a V8 into a Fiero.
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