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Posted: 10/4/2005 9:13:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/4/2005 9:13:22 PM EDT by MurdockTheCrazy]
I'm not really worried about the AR-15... I'm pretty sure the minimal effect of having a bayonet on it isn't going to do much. I'm more worried about the bayonet.

Will the effect of the muzzleflash damage the bayonet? Scorch it? Rip it off the lug and send it flying? [I seriously doubt that last one, but I'm throwing it out there].

Bayonet could be either an old M7 or the newer Marine OKC3S/ON3S bayonet.

Just wondering... Need to train for that final zombie attack .
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 9:13:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/4/2005 9:27:25 PM EDT by Sigurd]
um, no, it won't hurt it.
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 9:22:05 PM EDT
That would be quite a design flaw now wouldnt it.
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 9:22:28 PM EDT
Yes
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 9:22:29 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Sigurd:
um, no.



Mind expanding on that?

I have seen M16s fired with fixed bayonets during Vietnam... not sure they were supose to be doing that, but it was done.

Therefore, as I said, I'm not too worried about what it will do to the rifle, I'm worried what the muzzleflash might do to the bayonet.
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 9:24:29 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MrScaramanga:
That would be quite a design flaw now wouldnt it.



Maybe I should clarify, I'm not really worried that it would do damage [but I would like confirmation that it won't], I'm more worried about burn marks on the bayonet that I can't get off.

The damn things are 'spensive, ya know? [at least the M9s and Marine bayonets are].
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 9:25:38 PM EDT
I bet the muzzle flash marks would not be to hard to get off
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 9:26:24 PM EDT

Originally Posted By supanate7:
I bet the muzzle flash marks would not be to hard to get off



Yeah, but are you $108 sure?

Link Posted: 10/4/2005 9:27:14 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MurdockTheCrazy:

Originally Posted By Sigurd:
um, no.



Mind expanding on that?

I have seen M16s fired with fixed bayonets during Vietnam... not sure they were supose to be doing that, but it was done.

Therefore, as I said, I'm not too worried about what it will do to the rifle, I'm worried what the muzzleflash might do to the bayonet.




I meant that no, it won't hurt it any.

Guess I should have cleared that up
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 9:27:27 PM EDT
mount it, shoot it. It might not look pretty when you get done, but it will still gut one if you need it to.
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 9:27:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/4/2005 9:28:48 PM EDT by WIZZO_ARAKM14]
If anything, you might get a little powder residue on it. That is a moot point because the parkerized finish is really close in texture and color to the soot from the powder.

It won't ruin anything.

WIZZO
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 9:29:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/4/2005 9:34:28 PM EDT by MurdockTheCrazy]

Originally Posted By WIZZO_ARAKM14:
If anything, you might get a little powder residue on it. That is a moot point because the parkerized finish is really close in texture and color to the soot from the powder.

It won't ruin anything.

WIZZO



Good to hear, Zombies beware .
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 9:35:04 PM EDT
You are seriously gonna put an eye out! Damn!
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 9:37:45 PM EDT
Who cares if the bayo is marked up?
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 9:42:03 PM EDT
stick em and shoot em.........
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 9:51:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/4/2005 9:52:55 PM EDT by CeramicGod]
No, it isn't safe. They were designed to form small black holes of testosterone when fired with bayonets fixed. Don't do it, you'll turn GAY.

Stupid questions deserve stupid answers.
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 11:13:46 PM EDT
A2 hiders deflect some of the blast up..
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 11:45:37 PM EDT
yes its fine

i'm sure that the bayo will take some heat....unless its a chicom copy
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 12:00:54 AM EDT

Originally Posted By MurdockTheCrazy:

Originally Posted By MrScaramanga:
That would be quite a design flaw now wouldnt it.



Maybe I should clarify, I'm not really worried that it would do damage [but I would like confirmation that it won't], I'm more worried about burn marks on the bayonet that I can't get off.



Well, it shouldn't be any harder than cleaning out your barrel.
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 1:32:52 AM EDT
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 2:41:58 AM EDT
What makes the grass green?

Seriously, powder marks should be the least of your concern if you plan on using the bayonet for it's intended purpose.
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 3:06:59 AM EDT
Actually it makes the bullets fragement better as it scores the bullet jacket as it exits the muzzle. Just make sure the bayo. is sharp.
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 4:54:22 AM EDT

Originally Posted By AgentFork:
Seriously, powder marks should be the least of your concern if you plan on using the bayonet for it's intended purpose.



+1
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 5:11:32 AM EDT

Originally Posted By gmtmaster:
A2 hiders deflect some of the blast up..



i was going to say the same thing, if using an A2 hider there should NOT be any flash touching the bayo
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 5:15:05 AM EDT
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 5:16:11 AM EDT

Originally Posted By AgentFork:
What makes the grass green?

Seriously, powder marks should be the least of your concern if you plan on using the bayonet for it's intended purpose.



Trimming the hedges will mess one up.
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 5:38:49 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Kalahnikid:
Who cares if the bayo is marked up?



The couch commando’s
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 6:31:40 AM EDT

Originally Posted By CeramicGod:
No, it isn't safe. They were designed to form small black holes of testosterone when fired with bayonets fixed. Don't do it, you'll turn GAY.

Stupid questions deserve stupid answers.


now now, the only stupid question is the one not asked.

<­BR>

and this one... just kiddin'!
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 8:50:33 AM EDT
Building a campfire around one that is stuck in the ground WILL fuck it up!

True story:

Some friends and I went camping once. It was dark when we decided to pitch so my cousin threw his m9 into the ground as a "I claim this land in the name of Spain" gesture. We then then started foraging for kindling and wood in the dark and started just piling it up in one spot. We lit the fire, ate, and was merry, time to rack out. Morning gave light to a smoldering pile of ashes with an m9 bayonet sticking up out of the groung right in the middle, minus the plastic handle. The metal parts were suprisingly unharmed, however the plastic was completely gone, melted and vaporized.

Sorry off subject, firing with one deployed is fine.
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 9:16:54 AM EDT

Originally Posted By MrScaramanga:
That would be quite a design flaw now wouldnt it.

+1
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 9:51:28 AM EDT

Originally Posted By SWATH:
Building a campfire around one that is stuck in the ground WILL fuck it up!

True story:

Some friends and I went camping once. It was dark when we decided to pitch so my cousin threw his m9 into the ground as a "I claim this land in the name of Spain" gesture. We then then started foraging for kindling and wood in the dark and started just piling it up in one spot. We lit the fire, ate, and was merry, time to rack out. Morning gave light to a smoldering pile of ashes with an m9 bayonet sticking up out of the groung right in the middle, minus the plastic handle. The metal parts were suprisingly unharmed, however the plastic was completely gone, melted and vaporized.

Sorry off subject, firing with one deployed is fine.



I'll bet he was pissed!
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 9:52:20 AM EDT
Go ahead
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 9:59:11 AM EDT
You know, I think it causes bullet tumble...
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 10:01:17 AM EDT
Shooting with a bayonet = more thrusts per squeeze!
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 10:58:04 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/5/2005 10:59:27 AM EDT by MurdockTheCrazy]

Originally Posted By CeramicGod:
No, it isn't safe. They were designed to form small black holes of testosterone when fired with bayonets fixed. Don't do it, you'll turn GAY.



So you know this from personal experience?



Link Posted: 10/5/2005 11:36:36 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/5/2005 11:39:22 AM EDT by CowChaser]

Originally Posted By AgentFork:
What makes the grass green?



Short answer:
Chlorophyll

Which is:
chlo·ro·phyll or chlo·ro·phyl (klôr-fl)
n.

Any of a group of related green pigments found in photosynthetic cells that converts light energy into ATP and other forms of energy needed for biochemical processes; it is found in green plants, brown and red algae, and certain aerobic and anaerobic bacteria.
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 11:53:08 AM EDT
what did Hal Moore say Fix bayonets and unload ARs............................. nope


fire away!!

now if you need a fixed bayonet in or around your house that is an issue
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 12:07:02 PM EDT
If you are honestly that worried about your M9 bayonet, go buy a M7 which will work better anyway.


DSG ARMS M7 $14 w/ Sheath
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 12:48:56 PM EDT

Originally Posted By CowChaser:

Originally Posted By AgentFork:
What makes the grass green?



Short answer:
Chlorophyll

Which is:
chlo·ro·phyll or chlo·ro·phyl (klôr-fl)
n.

Any of a group of related green pigments found in photosynthetic cells that converts light energy into ATP and other forms of energy needed for biochemical processes; it is found in green plants, brown and red algae, and certain aerobic and anaerobic bacteria.



If I recall my rifle bayonet training, circa 1988, Commie blood makes the green grass grow
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 4:28:31 PM EDT

What makes the grass green?


BLOOD! BLOOD! BLOOD!
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 10:33:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/5/2005 10:36:44 PM EDT by MurdockTheCrazy]

Originally Posted By Stickman:
If you are honestly that worried about your M9 bayonet, go buy a M7 which will work better anyway.


DSG ARMS M7 $14 w/ Sheath



Not an M9, Marine OKC3S, which, in my opinion, is a much better bayonet than the M9.

And as for the M7 working better, it depends. The M7 is not designed to be very sharp, it's designed to punch and hole and then be wiggled around, damaging internal organs and ripping arteries. It works very well at that. However as a result it isn't as effective at 'slash' type use, which can also be very handy. Also the M7 cannot be used as a multipurpose knife very well, the M9 and Marine bayonets can.

I also have an M7 I could use, but I'd rather use the bayonet I could see myself actually using should the Soviets Chinese Zombies attack, and that would be the Marine bayonet.


Originally Posted By AgentFork:

What makes the grass green?



"BLOOD! BLOOD! BRIGHT RED BLOOD!"

Do they still use that one? Or is it too un-PC now'days?
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 10:46:00 PM EDT
I'm sure muslim/terrorist/criminal/looter/scumbag/home-invader blood is a great powder residue solvent and will take it right off with a few passes.
Link Posted: 10/6/2005 11:43:59 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/6/2005 11:45:13 AM EDT by SteelonSteel]
ummm, is the gas from your rifle cutting through your flash hider/supressor?

probably not..... so i don't think it would to the bayonet which is farther out and away from the gas.

Also shooting with the bayonet attached is supposed to really mess with accuracy at longer ranges. (I have not personally tried it!)

SoS
Link Posted: 10/6/2005 11:50:36 AM EDT

Originally Posted By MurdockTheCrazy:

Originally Posted By supanate7:
I bet the muzzle flash marks would not be to hard to get off



Yeah, but are you $108 sure?



Use your $15 M7 to test it. I doubt it'd do anything though...
Link Posted: 10/6/2005 11:51:53 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/6/2005 6:11:24 PM EDT by _DR]
May affect accuracy but unless your bayo is made of pot metal it will not harm it.

ETA As I recall, the few times we did it, when firing an M16 w/bayo fixed, it rattled a lot.
Link Posted: 10/6/2005 4:27:44 PM EDT
I heard it will cause all your ammo to convert itself to Wolf.
True Story! I read it on the internet!
Link Posted: 10/6/2005 4:36:14 PM EDT
I have a couple of times, and you couldn't tell. I does reduce muzzle climb.
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