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Posted: 8/28/2004 10:00:27 AM EST
I am ready to buy a dedicated weapon light for my new AR. I have used my G2 and 6P in the past but now I want an actual weapon light. I saw the scout light in the magazine and liked it but is that the cheapest and smallest one? Then Grant posted pics of the new M651c a few weeks ago. What is the best choice. I don't need a tape switch so just a clickie tailcap will work or the XM tailcap.
Link Posted: 8/28/2004 11:49:15 AM EST
I don't know about prices but the ScoutLight is smaller and weighs less than the Millennium Universal WeaponLight.

This photo shows the M651C ScoutLight and the M951C Millennium Universal WeaponLight:


Al


Link Posted: 8/28/2004 3:09:33 PM EST
The M651C is the Scout Light... I've got one and was pleasantly surprised at how small it is! It comes with the clickie from the E2D, but a tape switch will supposedly be released sometime in the future (it is pictured in the 2004 catalog). When using the stock bezel and lamp the light is crazy small, but the beam is focused pretty tightly. Mine has been upgraded with an adapter to use the Classic size bezels and the P61 HOLA.




I got mine from Brightflashlights, but Grant is also an excellent dealer that has taken care of me in the past! HTH.
-Randy
Link Posted: 8/28/2004 4:31:03 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/28/2004 6:41:56 PM EST
Doh.. I didn't realize the Scout was the M651c. Nice pic Al that made my decision.... Scout light it is. I'm not really worried about the light output for this rifle but I'm glad I can upgrade like my good 'ole buddy Randy did. The only thing I don't like about the Scout light is that E2D tailcap.
Link Posted: 8/28/2004 7:00:20 PM EST
Why not a Classic?


6v and 9v version shown:

Link Posted: 8/29/2004 5:53:15 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 6:04:03 PM EST
The scoutlight is the smallest and lightest, however it is not the cheapest. It costs about the same as a basic MU series light. The cheapest would be the clasic series lights as mentioned above. They would be bigger and heavier than the scoutlights, but I would think they would be smaller and ligher than the MU lights.
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 2:18:14 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/30/2004 2:20:27 AM EST by Chuck]
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 5:35:01 AM EST
BTW does anyone have the weights for the X200 & the Scout (version without tape switch)?
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 6:00:45 AM EST
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 8:10:33 AM EST
BF Thanks - I'm assuming that is WITH batteries (and the Scout includes the mount as well).
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 8:26:41 AM EST
The Scout weaponlight is basically an E2e with an integral mount and clickie tailcap. They share the same tailcaps and bezels, so if you already have an E2e, you can swap parts if needed.
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 12:31:22 PM EST

Originally Posted By C4iGrant:

Originally Posted By Maverick656:
I am ready to buy a dedicated weapon light for my new AR. I have used my G2 and 6P in the past but now I want an actual weapon light. I saw the scout light in the magazine and liked it but is that the cheapest and smallest one? Then Grant posted pics of the new M651c a few weeks ago. What is the best choice. I don't need a tape switch so just a clickie tailcap will work or the XM tailcap.



The Scout is the way to go. I have both models of the Scout on back order. Laser Devices OP-6 is another good choice (small, lightweight, rugged and cheap)!



C4

www.gandrtactical.com


www.gandrtactical.com/images/archive/LD%20OP-6c.jpg



Grant, what is this system? Me likes
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 12:56:59 PM EST

Originally Posted By M4arc:

Originally Posted By C4iGrant:

Originally Posted By Maverick656:
I am ready to buy a dedicated weapon light for my new AR. I have used my G2 and 6P in the past but now I want an actual weapon light. I saw the scout light in the magazine and liked it but is that the cheapest and smallest one? Then Grant posted pics of the new M651c a few weeks ago. What is the best choice. I don't need a tape switch so just a clickie tailcap will work or the XM tailcap.



The Scout is the way to go. I have both models of the Scout on back order. Laser Devices OP-6 is another good choice (small, lightweight, rugged and cheap)!



C4

www.gandrtactical.com


www.gandrtactical.com/images/archive/LD%20OP-6c.jpg



Grant, what is this system? Me likes



I'm not Grant, but that is a Laser Devices weaponlight. Those look better and better everytime I see them, and the prices are sweet too.
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 1:41:36 PM EST

Originally Posted By C4iGrant:

Originally Posted By Maverick656:
I am ready to buy a dedicated weapon light for my new AR. I have used my G2 and 6P in the past but now I want an actual weapon light. I saw the scout light in the magazine and liked it but is that the cheapest and smallest one? Then Grant posted pics of the new M651c a few weeks ago. What is the best choice. I don't need a tape switch so just a clickie tailcap will work or the XM tailcap.


The Scout is the way to go. I have both models of the Scout on back order. Laser Devices OP-6 is another good choice (small, lightweight, rugged and cheap)!
C4
www.gandrtactical.com

www.gandrtactical.com/images/archive/LD%20OP-6c.jpg



What is Cheap ? How much ? over $200 ? ?
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 1:47:46 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 3:52:42 PM EST
How bright are the LD's compared to the SF's? And do the LD's only come with tape switches and ARMS throw levers or can you get thumb screws and clickie caps? Thanks Grant.
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 3:57:06 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 4:46:02 PM EST

Originally Posted By C4iGrant:

Originally Posted By Maverick656:
How bright are the LD's compared to the SF's? And do the LD's only come with tape switches and ARMS throw levers or can you get thumb screws and clickie caps? Thanks Grant.




From what I can tell, the LD OP-6's are just as bright as say a SF 6P. You can get them without ANY mount and a momentary/constant on tailcap (kind of like the Z48/Z49 SF tailcap)...

C4




Lumens? Around 100-120? Or more like 200? Can you get a high output bulb like with a SF?
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 5:22:34 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 5:31:52 PM EST

Originally Posted By C4iGrant:
I would say that the OP-6 is around 67 Lumens (same as the SF 6P or M95 series). They do not make a HO bulb (which I think are a waste of money without a turbo head)....
C4



How bright are the LD 9v lights?
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 5:39:41 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/31/2004 5:33:56 AM EST

Originally Posted By C4iGrant:
They do not make a HO bulb (which I think are a waste of money without a turbo head)....


Grant,
Can you tell me why you think the HO bulbs are a waste? What does the Turbo head offer (a tighter beam perhaps)?
Link Posted: 8/31/2004 5:42:56 AM EST
Link Posted: 8/31/2004 8:05:11 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/31/2004 8:06:17 AM EST by BrightFlashlights]
Link Posted: 8/31/2004 10:21:50 AM EST
Is the Laser Devices OP-6 upgradeable in the future if more lightning is needed?

Link Posted: 8/31/2004 10:48:53 AM EST
I agree - the TurboHead models start at 9V (three SF123A) and the High Output Lamp Assemblies (HOLA's) really improve the beam.

I also agree that the P61 is a worthy lamp. I only use the P61 when I'm carrying a standard two-SF123A SureFire such as the G2Z or M2. The light output is brighter, whiter, more intense, larger beam and brighter surround beam. They really shine outside at close range too. I also agree that P61 is better than the P90, and also the P91.

If you don't use the P61 constant-on then it doesn't eat SF123A's as quickly as you may expect in my experience.

Al
Link Posted: 8/31/2004 10:53:43 AM EST
Link Posted: 9/2/2004 8:21:53 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/3/2004 6:00:29 AM EST
I have both the Scout and E2d and even though the parts are interchangable, the Bezels are not the same. The lense on the Scout is flat and the lense on the E2d is dome shaped. I think the reflectors may be different also because when you put them side by side the beam is a little tighter on the Scout.

Just my .02
MadDog
Link Posted: 9/8/2004 5:07:10 PM EST
how much are you guys paying for the Scout light and where are you getting them? i handled them at shot show and liked it but have never seen one after that.....
Link Posted: 9/8/2004 5:09:43 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/9/2004 6:20:10 AM EST
what was your price on these Grant?
Link Posted: 9/16/2004 8:29:18 AM EST
Do the Laser Optics run on the same batteries as the Surefire?
Link Posted: 9/16/2004 8:31:43 AM EST
I have a Streamlight M-3 on mine. The adapter only costs about $8. Interchangeable in seconds between pistol, rifle, or shotgun.
Link Posted: 9/16/2004 9:27:37 AM EST
Link Posted: 9/21/2004 7:33:28 PM EST
Pricing on the Scout? Options? Is there a throw lever version? any tailcap options? I hate that E2Defender tail cap.
Link Posted: 9/21/2004 7:35:18 PM EST

Originally Posted By M4-guy:
The Scout weaponlight is basically an E2e with an integral mount and clickie tailcap. They share the same tailcaps and bezels, so if you already have an E2e, you can swap parts if needed.



to include the L4 head and rechargable Pila batteries? Sweet!
Link Posted: 9/21/2004 9:06:46 PM EST
The ScoutLight has three major flavours:

M65 - E2e bezel
M66 - KL1 bezel
M67 - KL4 bezel
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 2:07:26 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/11/2004 4:36:54 PM EST by BrightFlashlights]
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 3:18:19 PM EST
The E2e LockOut TailCap (push button pressure switch) is the Z52 (HA).

The L4's Clickie TailCap (also can be locked out) is the Z57 (HA).

The Hard Anodised Black Clickie TailCap shown by BrightFlashlights on that E2d is the Z61.

I would also like a two-stage clickie TailCap for the A2/L1/L2 etc.

Al
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 3:23:47 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/22/2004 3:24:17 PM EST by BrightFlashlights]
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 7:52:21 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/13/2004 8:15:24 AM EST by Maverick656]
OK.... I broke down and I am going to betray my Surefire allegiance and order a OP-6 from Brownells (sorry Grant, I can get an LE discount). Will let you guys know how it fairs.



Edit.... I just pulled it up on their website and they don't have the one's with the ARMS mounts. I guess I will have to order their flashlight ring with it also.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 8:23:51 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 8:42:41 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 2:17:22 PM EST
Al (or anyone else in the know),

Why aren't the Scout lights being offered with the bezel from the X200? Wouldn't this bezel make more sense than a KL4 on a carbine/rifle?
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 12:40:51 PM EST
Hey Grant I sent you an IM. Thanks to both you and BF for helping all the arfcom dudes out.
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 4:33:27 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/16/2004 8:00:04 AM EST by BrightFlashlights]
Link Posted: 10/16/2004 3:39:19 AM EST
The *new* KL1 bezel features an evolved optic based on the X200A.
The LuxeonIII is not driven as hard for longer regulated runtime and the beam is larger (and therefore not quite as intense) compared to the X200's beam.
The squareness has also been rounded somewhat.

Using the KL1 on the ScoutLight creates the M66xx ScoutLight (for example M661C)

I think it is one of the best LED beams yet released.

The new KL1 has only just started to ship. My understanding is that the price has not gone up which makes it a bargin!

Email me if you'd like to see my photo of the M661X.

Al
Link Posted: 10/19/2004 1:53:57 PM EST
How bright is the X200 and how does it compare to a P61 Bulb?
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