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Posted: 9/4/2003 12:24:30 PM EDT
What's the best round for rabbit sized game through a 1:9 twist? Or will any .223 round vaporize something that small?
Link Posted: 9/4/2003 12:57:16 PM EDT
[#1]
Can you do head shots?  If so, the ammo is irrelevant.
Chest/shoulder shots with HP ammo will leave 2 hindquarter that are edible, but that's about it.

Larry
Link Posted: 9/4/2003 1:00:10 PM EDT
[#2]
I was thinking about American Eagle FMJ boat tails. Would they do the same? I was hoping they would go straight through with minimal damage.

Thanks for the reply.
Link Posted: 9/4/2003 1:05:14 PM EDT
[#3]
Rabbit shot with 193: The skin was pretty much intact...
Link Posted: 9/4/2003 1:34:59 PM EDT
[#4]
...and the innards?
Link Posted: 9/4/2003 2:15:00 PM EDT
[#5]
Pretty much not.

Like someone else said, the hind quarters might have been usable.

Isn't the backstrap on a coney the good part?
Link Posted: 9/4/2003 2:51:12 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/4/2003 7:10:16 PM EDT
[#7]
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I'd stick to .22LR.

-Troy
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So if I had to choose between 55grain Winchester Power Points or Wolf 55grain FMJ I should go with the Wolf for rabits, right?
Link Posted: 9/5/2003 10:42:56 AM EDT
[#8]
all FMJ and anything above 55grns will just go right through the rabbit without fragmenting. Some HP go right through too. The absolute best factory laod (that I've found) for rabbits is winchester 55grn PSP, It literaly turns 'em inside out. I've used this load to kill many many rabbits.

Try shoting 'em through the neck, their heads pop off like cork from a wine bottle.
Link Posted: 9/5/2003 11:00:25 AM EDT
[#9]
Check your state laws too.  In a lot of states its illegal to hunt with FMJ bullets.
Link Posted: 9/5/2003 11:21:34 AM EDT
[#10]
In Utah rabbits are not considered a game animal, therefore, no bag limit and no restrictions on ammo or calibre type. I don't know about other states though
Link Posted: 9/5/2003 11:34:38 AM EDT
[#11]
..all FMJ and anything above 55grns will just go right through the rabbit without fragmenting...
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I have hit jackrabbits with M193, Q3131A and Federal American Eagle .55 gr FMJ that literally exploded.  FMJ will hammer a bunny out to 150 yards out of my 16" carbine.
Link Posted: 9/5/2003 11:50:41 AM EDT
[#12]
shotgun,

what kind of rabbits are we talking about here?

jackrabbit?
cottontail?
other?
Link Posted: 9/5/2003 12:00:17 PM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
Check your state laws too.  In a lot of states its illegal to hunt with FMJ bullets.
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Ah, good point.  Maybe I'll use my Silver Bear 62 grain HP for it instead.
Link Posted: 9/5/2003 12:03:44 PM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
..all FMJ and anything above 55grns will just go right through the rabbit without fragmenting...
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I have hit jackrabbits with M193, Q3131A and Federal American Eagle .55 gr FMJ that literally exploded.  FMJ will hammer a bunny out to 150 yards out of my 16" carbine.
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That is interesting.  I always heard those rounds penetrated much deeper BEFORE fragmenting so you wouldn't think they would cause a bunny to explode.  Are you sure you weren't shooting tannerite bunnies?
Link Posted: 9/5/2003 12:21:54 PM EDT
[#15]
I don't want to restrict it to JUST rabbits but that SIZED game.
Link Posted: 9/5/2003 1:33:53 PM EDT
[#16]
I have shot jack rabbits with 55g fmj PMP and Wolf ammo. The Wolf ammo is definately less destructive than the PMP. However, if I wanted to eat what was left of a rabbit after shooting it, I wouldn't use a .223, it's hard to gather up the pieces sometimes.
Link Posted: 9/6/2003 9:35:24 AM EDT
[#17]
I have had good luck with a 30-06 150fmj handloaded to about 1400fps for this type of work. Make sure you do not go too light.
Link Posted: 9/6/2003 10:00:04 AM EDT
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I have had good luck with a 30-06 150fmj handloaded to about 1400fps for this type of work. Make sure you do not go too light.
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[LOLabove]  Now that's funny.
Link Posted: 9/6/2003 10:14:16 AM EDT
[#19]
OK.  You guys have forced me to start looking into going prairie dog hunting relatively soon.  If I get it put together, I'll bring along a large assortment of .223 rounds and video the shoot.

I'm also dying to try out a 110gr Vmax on the little suckers.  POP!
Link Posted: 9/6/2003 10:42:18 PM EDT
[#20]
I do know in Oregon you cann't use FMJ's to hunt game animals but I didn't see Wabbits listed in the hunting rules. And unless it's a .22 it can only be a five round mag. Oh ya and no full auto either. You have to use a blender if you want liquid deer.
Link Posted: 9/7/2003 5:09:00 PM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:
You have to use a blender if you want liquid deer.
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Either a chipper/shredder or a Buick work well for liquefied deer.
Link Posted: 9/7/2003 8:11:56 PM EDT
[#22]
Now that I think of it Barrett makes some really nice rabbit guns. If ya got them lined up right you could definitely get more than one with one shot.
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