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Posted: 10/11/2004 5:41:02 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/17/2004 1:31:18 PM EST by bigbore]
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 5:42:59 PM EST
Scope?
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 6:16:28 PM EST
Saweeeeeet....



-Hershey
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 6:23:19 PM EST
Wow - nice job on the contouring!
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 7:28:18 PM EST
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Link Posted: 10/12/2004 12:11:05 AM EST
What does it weigh?
Link Posted: 10/12/2004 12:17:37 AM EST
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Link Posted: 10/12/2004 3:33:42 AM EST
Very nice!
Link Posted: 10/12/2004 4:33:32 AM EST
very nice!

thats adco for ya!
Link Posted: 10/12/2004 5:03:05 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/12/2004 5:26:56 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/12/2004 5:41:24 AM EST by bigbore]
Link Posted: 10/12/2004 5:39:52 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/12/2004 5:46:44 AM EST
Sweet looking rig but I have a question... If accuracy is the main goal of this rig and obviously weight is not an issue so than why not use a longer barrel? I know the main reason for a longer barrel is added velocity (which may not be an issue for this rig depending on its purpose) but it has been my experience that longer barrels tend to be more accurate (maybe because of the added velocity?).

Did you use a mid-length gas system?

Thanks
Link Posted: 10/12/2004 5:59:43 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/12/2004 5:59:55 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/12/2004 6:08:49 AM EST by bigbore]
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Link Posted: 10/12/2004 6:27:35 AM EST
Nice! Make sure to give a range report...
Link Posted: 10/12/2004 10:49:14 AM EST
holy cow steve... thats very very close to the next setup i wanted... a short accurate rifle...

i orignally thought to make the rifle with an 18" barrel use the larue 12.0, krieger barrel, with a vortex... and maybe play around with the possiblity of using a med. contour barrel... such as the SPR... just so it isn't so increadably heavy...

i can see that a 16" w/ vortex is a good length.... i still like the larue 12.0's... any real pratical accurate difference between your rra barrel and what a krieger would shoot...

how do you think the countour would really effect accurace? how would the weight differ?

* oh and BTW what is the standard weight of of a lower? that saying... a2 buttstock, a2 pistol grip? and obviously the insides....

Thanks!
Link Posted: 10/12/2004 2:30:22 PM EST
I too have been thinking of a short barrel rifle like this. I was thinking of getting an 1/7 mid and cutting it to 14" and putting a OPS Inc. brake from Brownells on it, and rifle length handguard. Do you think this would be a waste of a gun?
Link Posted: 10/12/2004 2:41:20 PM EST
neck no... it would be tight
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 5:31:59 AM EST
This is exactly what I had in mind when I built my 14.5" HBAR. Its the perfect gopher gun for getting in and out of the truck, and I could care less how much it weighs. And the gophers could care less about my bullet velocity from a 14.5" barrel.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 6:30:57 AM EST

Originally Posted By bigbore:
Barrel length has nothing to do with accuracy. IMO the distance that .223 is really worth anything - a 16" plenty. And if its a well aimed/placed shot, from a real accurate upper...

I also went with 16" for size. I'd like to have a small case I can put in my trunk, with 1 lower, a CQB type upper, and a "precision" upper if that makes sense.

heres a better pic of the barrel, and if you look close you can see how the gas block is blended into the barrel so it matched the larger countour under the handguards.
www.besthdw.com/test/betterbarrel.jpg



To each their own (re: barrel length) but thank you for explaining your reasoning
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 12:29:45 PM EST

Originally Posted By bigbore:
Barrel length has nothing to do with accuracy. IMO the distance that .223 is really worth anything - a 16" plenty. And if its a well aimed/placed shot, from a real accurate upper...

I also went with 16" for size. I'd like to have a small case I can put in my trunk, with 1 lower, a CQB type upper, and a "precision" upper if that makes sense.

heres a better pic of the barrel, and if you look close you can see how the gas block is blended into the barrel so it matched the larger countour under the handguards.
www.besthdw.com/test/betterbarrel.jpg



i thought you wern't supposed to use crush washers with vortex's...

is it just me or is that vortex shorter than normal too?
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 1:37:52 PM EST
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Link Posted: 10/14/2004 12:09:38 AM EST
is that a custom vortex steve?

i'm thinking about buying one... it seems shorter than the standard vortex's
Link Posted: 10/14/2004 12:17:48 AM EST
You got me drooling over here on my computer screen.... that looks awesome.
Link Posted: 10/14/2004 2:40:42 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/14/2004 5:53:56 PM EST
wheres the range report steve? i want pics of groups dang it!
Link Posted: 10/17/2004 1:33:30 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/17/2004 1:36:45 PM EST by bigbore]
Link Posted: 10/17/2004 2:52:29 PM EST
Very impressive. Nice shooting, but you can't give all the credit to the AR. The person behind it had something to do with those groups.

Good shooting.................
Link Posted: 10/17/2004 7:57:24 PM EST
What exactly do you have to do to the DD barrel nut to make it fit over the barrel? Does that ruin it from fitting on a standard HBAR in the future? What kind of gas block is that you're using?

Thanks
Link Posted: 10/18/2004 1:48:55 AM EST
What he said above about modifying the DD tube.... Also how much would it be to buy the barrel and gas block setupup alone? What about using an 18in varmint barrel?
Link Posted: 10/18/2004 4:21:53 AM EST

Originally Posted By Onslaught:
What exactly do you have to do to the DD barrel nut to make it fit over the barrel? Does that ruin it from fitting on a standard HBAR in the future? What kind of gas block is that you're using?

Thanks



would also like to know what kind of fitment was required to fit barrel nut over barrel
Link Posted: 10/18/2004 4:28:30 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/18/2004 4:28:53 AM EST by mongo001]

Originally Posted By Onslaught:
What exactly do you have to do to the DD barrel nut to make it fit over the barrel? Does that ruin it from fitting on a standard HBAR in the future? What kind of gas block is that you're using?

Thanks



I believe you have to open up the opening of the barrel nut a smidge, as it doesn't fit over a bull style barrels, best done on a lathe, but some here have opened them up with Dremels and such.

Thanks for the inspiration, Steve, as this will be one of my first projects on my lathe, once I get it running. Maybe I'll do it in 18", sort of SPRish, maybe...........
Link Posted: 10/18/2004 4:49:14 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/18/2004 1:49:24 PM EST
[waynesworld]Schhewwinggg!!!![/waynesworld]

-sc
Link Posted: 10/19/2004 10:24:40 PM EST
thats just beautiful
Link Posted: 10/28/2004 1:32:45 PM EST
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