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Posted: 10/4/2004 3:24:50 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/4/2004 3:28:43 PM EST by jstang]
What is the perfered method here?
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 3:25:22 PM EST
Aimpoint.
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 3:34:53 PM EST
Aimpoint with flip up iron sights.
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 3:36:53 PM EST
Aimpoint
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 3:37:32 PM EST
tacpoint
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 3:38:19 PM EST
EOtech
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 3:39:56 PM EST
Aimpoint
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 3:46:42 PM EST
Leupold CQT
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 3:48:12 PM EST
Well you dont say if its 10 yards or 1000 yards... it makes a lot of difference dude. How about more specifications on the scenario.
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 3:50:17 PM EST
Right now, irons. Saving for a eothingie.
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 3:50:33 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/4/2004 3:51:10 PM EST by akajimmy]
I didn't see one for all of the above
Otherwise ACOG.
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 4:08:36 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/4/2004 4:09:01 PM EST by ThePrisoner72]
I use irons right now but I'm saving to get an Aimpoint or EOtech
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 4:09:58 PM EST
BSA!! err.. yeah.
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 4:13:59 PM EST

Originally Posted By akajimmy:
I didn't see one for all of the above
Otherwise ACOG.


+1

If I could only choose one, it'd be irons.

1. Irons
2. ACOG
3. Everything else

Too bad I can't find (or afford, really) an ACOG.
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 4:32:14 PM EST
Iron sights should be learned and mastered before you use any red dot or scope for other things.I have a red dot and use it primarily as a night sight all other times its iron sights.I have a scope but its on my M14.In the end out of all 3 iron sights wont fail and if you can only hit with a red dot or scope your gonna regret not being able to hit or utilize your iron sights as they should be the first things you learn to use when using a rifle as a primary weapon.You will be surprised how learning to use your iron sights well will help you with all the other gadgets...gotta walk before you can run...irons #1 in my book optics or red dot second unless you are primarily using an optic siighted rifle as your primary weapon and even then you should know how the regular sights are used.By counting how many times I have said the word iron sights should tell you how important they are.
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 6:04:08 PM EST

Originally Posted By model927:
Iron sights should be learned and mastered before you use any red dot or scope for other things.I have a red dot and use it primarily as a night sight all other times its iron sights.I have a scope but its on my M14.In the end out of all 3 iron sights wont fail and if you can only hit with a red dot or scope your gonna regret not being able to hit or utilize your iron sights as they should be the first things you learn to use when using a rifle as a primary weapon.You will be surprised how learning to use your iron sights well will help you with all the other gadgets...gotta walk before you can run...irons #1 in my book optics or red dot second unless you are primarily using an optic siighted rifle as your primary weapon and even then you should know how the regular sights are used.By counting how many times I have said the word iron sights should tell you how important they are.



Can you believe I FOUND an ACOG and forgot to get a BUIS DOH! Now I have no money
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 6:05:16 PM EST
Woohoo post 200
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 6:07:23 PM EST

Originally Posted By model927:
By counting how many times I have said the word iron sights should tell you how important they are.


No kidding. I'm a firm believer that, if you can't hit minute-of-torso out to around 300 meters with irons, you should have a buddy lock up all of your optics/electronics until you can.
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 6:09:41 PM EST
All 3
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 6:20:19 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 6:23:50 PM EST
aimpoint with BUIS
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 6:30:53 PM EST
aimpoint WITH backup iron's
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 6:33:50 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/4/2004 6:34:14 PM EST by _DR]
Of course if you have a Vulcan Arms V15, you don't need any of the above.
Proper procedure for aiming the V15 is holding the weapon sideways and aiming "ghetto Style"
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 6:41:23 PM EST
Wait until you pass 65 and can pick just one object to be a total blur. You have a choice, the sights or the target. You don't get to see both.
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 7:14:09 PM EST
irons all the way baby!

i mostly do bowling pin shoots @ 25 yds w/ my ar-s anyways.....i'm all about quick target aquisition...

i occasionaly do 100+yd shooting, again w/ iron sights. I have consistent 3-4" patterns using wolf 55 gn hp, and even tighter using remington match grade etc. I find it fun when i can consitently outshoot guys at 100+ yds (at bowling pins) because of the spped of target aquisition w/ iron sights over using scopes or red dots. Guys are always like "whoa!, howdya do that" easy......lots-o-practice w/ the irons....
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 7:37:20 PM EST
depends on what you want to do with it.

But iron sight is my pick because it's inbetween a reddot and a scope, for the sake of versatility.
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 8:14:51 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/4/2004 8:16:24 PM EST by Karaya1]
Irons first.

I used my irons for 6 months and 2,000 rounds until i could nail shit out past 300 yards.
Once i hit a milkjug at 300 in one shot(prone), and could consistantly hit bowling pins at 125(on a bipod) i bought my OKO red dot.

I still normally shoot with irons... the Red dot is just there if i need it in a SHTF situation where i need quicker accusation, although running around my basement like a dumbass aiming at placed targets using just irons got my accusation really fast with the irons.
haha


Basically, optics are great, but if you feel like you would be screwed in a SHTF situation if your optic crapped out, you need to take it off and use irons until you feel 100% confident with them
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 8:18:54 PM EST
EOTech
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 8:25:19 PM EST
Aimpoint w/BMAS rear flip up sight works well for me!
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 11:29:51 PM EST
Aimpoint with backup iron sights.
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 1:15:07 AM EST
Irons cause I'm cheap.
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 1:36:59 AM EST
I use them all. In order of preference its:

- EOtech
- Aimpoint
- ACOG
- Irons
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 3:52:47 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/5/2004 3:53:34 AM EST by SWO_daddy]
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Link Posted: 10/5/2004 3:53:18 AM EST
Irons

Too many n00bs come out to the range with their super-duper deluxe red dot sights atop their super expensive rifles, and they are hard-pressed to hit the broad side of a barn. I agree with learning the irons first, it's such a fundamental part of the rifle. Second the notion that if your super deluxe optics fail, and you can't hit jack, you are fux0red.


Bottom line -- I am also cheap
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 3:56:53 AM EST
What's the application? All 3 have their rolls.
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 4:05:47 AM EST
Depends on the intended use.


Can't vote.
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 5:55:19 AM EST

Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:
Depends on the intended use.




True, true . . .

However, for a gerneral purpose set up, I vote for a red dot (I use Aimpoint), supplimented with BUIS.
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 5:58:20 AM EST
Aimpoint w/ARMS BUIS
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 6:41:17 AM EST
Eotech w/ BUIS
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 6:53:23 AM EST
I also agree that many people dont learn how to properly use thier iron sights first and rush into getting a scope or red dot. Bottom line is all those toys are just extra things that can and probably will break eventually. So I vote for Iron sights...
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 7:03:25 AM EST
Aimpoint with ARMS flip-up BUIS.
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