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11/9/2018 9:21:38 PM
Posted: 8/9/2018 12:11:56 PM EST
I am look for a low power scope between 200 to 250 bucks range for the 458 SOCOM and I have look at the Bushnell 1-4 and 2-7 AR scopes. Shooting will be no long then 150 yard tops but likely within 100 yards. Any suggestions on scopes?

Thanks
Bob
Link Posted: 8/9/2018 12:14:11 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/9/2018 12:16:07 PM EST by CasualObserver]
In that price range, you can't go wrong with a Primary Arms 1-4 or 1-6.
Link Posted: 8/9/2018 8:41:35 PM EST
How about a red dot?
Link Posted: 8/10/2018 3:44:31 AM EST
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/439467/vortex-optics-viper-hs-rifle-scope-30mm-tube-25-10x-44mm-v-plex-reticle-matte

Slightly more than you budget, but this is what I have on my 450 Bushmaster. All my hunting is under 200yds, and realistically under 175yds. I have had a 1-4x on it, but found i left it at 3x or 4x 95% of the time. While on the search I thought about 2-7x, but then this deal came up and for a quality and glass clarity I could not pass it up. The standard reticle works fine for my needs.
Link Posted: 8/10/2018 5:10:04 AM EST
Vortex in the variable power of your choice to fit your budget.
Customer service is impeccable.

I'd say 1x6 since you're not going to be taking game shots beyond 200 yards with the .458 Socom.
Link Posted: 8/10/2018 6:49:41 PM EST
Leupold VX hog 1-4X20

That’s the cheapest scope I’d trust on a Socom. They are hard on optics.
Link Posted: 8/10/2018 9:08:49 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/10/2018 9:09:38 PM EST by Eat_Beef]
When I got my 450 Bushmaster several years ago, I specifically asked PA if their 1-6 would hold up. They said no.

Same story with the Strike Eagle.

They would probably honor the warranty, but why bother.
Link Posted: 8/10/2018 11:23:06 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/10/2018 11:23:27 PM EST by RogueSpear2023]
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Originally Posted By Eat_Beef:
When I got my 450 Bushmaster several years ago, I specifically asked PA if their 1-6 would hold up. They said no.

Same story with the Strike Eagle.

They would probably honor the warranty, but why bother.
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Funny when I asked Vortex if their cheaper crossfire 2 would hold up on a 12ga shotgun which has much more recoil than 450 Bushmaster I was told it would hold up just fine.

I have friends with Strike Eagles on their 3gun rifles that get beat around pretty good and hold up perfectly fine.

No experience with Primary Arms acopes but perhaps they will show up and comment
Link Posted: 8/11/2018 11:08:32 AM EST
Nikon makes some nice scopes for shotguns that would fit your purpose... under your budget too
Link Posted: 8/11/2018 1:30:40 PM EST
Shotgun recoil is not the same thing as 458 recoil. The 458 may have less total force, but the moment will be higher (shorter period).
Link Posted: 8/11/2018 4:21:53 PM EST
Saving my pennies to put a Trjicon AccuPower on mine. Price isn't too far out of line, cool reticle options, and it's Trijicon.

Link Posted: 8/11/2018 10:48:44 PM EST
I have a weaver kasspa 1.5x6 z-plex reticle on my 458 socom bolt action . it was on my 50 beowulf and prior to that on a 308 bolt gun . I would say vortex , bushnell , weaver , redfield and burris all make scopes that will do fine . I run a leupold 2x7x33 for a long time on my rock river 458 socom with no ill results . about any established optic manufacture scopes will work . just stay away from the cheezy stuff often on sale at ebay.
Link Posted: 8/12/2018 4:29:05 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/12/2018 4:31:59 PM EST by Trollslayer]
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Originally Posted By Eat_Beef:
Shotgun recoil is not the same thing as 458 recoil. The 458 may have less total force, but the moment will be higher (shorter period).
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Is this what you meant?

The 458 may have less total force impulse , but the peak force moment will be higher (shorter duration period).

Impulse = force * time (what the rifle imparts to your shoulder)

Impulse = change in rifle's velocity * rifle's mass (were it in free recoil; it is not)
Link Posted: 8/12/2018 6:04:58 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/13/2018 8:51:48 PM EST
Would a fixed power 4x be more desirable for the 458? In durability and for practical ranges?

My 458 isn’t built yet, but I bought the suppressor already. Waiting now.
Link Posted: 8/13/2018 10:42:57 PM EST
A fix power would not be a idea setup for me. I plan on hunting with the .458 and the distances be from 30 yards to 150 yrs, so a 4x scope would be to much for close up shot and ok for the long shots.

Thanks the input guys. I have visit the Bushnell Outlet store in Olath, Ks, and their prices is a lot cheaper then Sporting good stores. The 1-6 is about 160. And so is the 2-7. Back by a limit life time warranty.

Rob
Link Posted: 8/18/2018 8:19:51 PM EST
red dot is good to 300m/yards sometimes more, plus its a big huge round,, isnt meant to be a lazer 800yd round,, do what the round is meant to.. close range,, red dot... or save for a trijicon acog..
Link Posted: 8/19/2018 7:35:55 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/19/2018 7:37:17 AM EST by Willz]
My Vortex Razor HD 1x6 used on 1x with the reticle illuminated is awesome with two eyes open as a red dot.

I use it for 3gun but it would make an excellent scope for hogs.

I know the razor is not in your price range but Vortex makes the Strike Eagle 1x6 it can be had for under $300.

the Vortex warranty and customer service is excellent.

They've replaced scopes destroyed by house fires free of charge.
Link Posted: 8/19/2018 6:28:59 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Willz:
My Vortex Razor HD 1x6 used on 1x with the reticle illuminated is awesome with two eyes open as a red dot.

I use it for 3gun but it would make an excellent scope for hogs.

I know the razor is not in your price range but Vortex makes the Strike Eagle 1x6 it can be had for under $300.

the Vortex warranty and customer service is excellent.

They've replaced scopes destroyed by house fires free of charge.
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I put a strike eagle on my 450 bushmaster. Only have 50 rounds through it but so far it's held up to the recoil. The 450 should be similar in recoil to the 458.

It seemed like the perfect optic type for deer hunting in Iowa. With the strelok+ app I have hold overs out to 375 yards.
Link Posted: 8/19/2018 9:28:23 PM EST
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Originally Posted By army11b:
red dot is good to 300m/yards sometimes more, plus its a big huge round,, isnt meant to be a lazer 800yd round,, do what the round is meant to.. close range,, red dot...
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That's what I said. OP has not responded.
Link Posted: 8/20/2018 6:47:48 PM EST
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Originally Posted By molar:
Leupold VX hog 1-4X20

That’s the cheapest scope I’d trust on a Socom. They are hard on optics.
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That's what I went with.

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